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RE: Obama warns the Highest Court in the Land against &... - 4/6/2012 3:34:29 PM   
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he hasnt the the honor or rectitude to be other than a slobbering ideologue.  He could care less about constistent views.  He's one of those Georgetown  sluts.

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RE: Obama warns the Highest Court in the Land against &... - 4/6/2012 3:40:31 PM   
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Look what's mentioned right after "Provide for the common defense"


Glad you got it right.

Most libs say "welfare in general". Big difference.

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RE: Obama warns the Highest Court in the Land against &... - 4/6/2012 3:54:47 PM   
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NO, not anyone says that.  You got it wrong again, per usual. You now quote strawmen that dont exist as fact having to do with nothingness but hysteria and desperation of the right.

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RE: Obama warns the Highest Court in the Land against &... - 4/6/2012 3:58:09 PM   
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Look what's mentioned right after "Provide for the common defense"


Glad you got it right.

Most libs say "welfare in general". Big difference.


Where do you think they got the name FOR THE PROGRAM???

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RE: Obama warns the Highest Court in the Land against &... - 4/8/2012 10:24:38 AM   
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Historically, conservative Republican judges were not in favor of "judicial activism".

I think Obama was just appealing to those on the court who have written ad nauseum against judicial activism (e.g. Scalia) to say, if you really don't believe in judicial activism then you really, constitutionally, legally, should not overturn this legislation.

I don't think he meant this as any kind of "threat" agains the Supreme Court. I really think it was meant as a personal appeal to those on the court who are anti-judicial activism.

(But, of course, we know that the conservative justices on the court who are against judicial activism will have no difficulty simply hypocritically ignoring their own writings on the topic, and happily judicially activate away. Again, the hypocrisy of the right never ceases to amaze....)


Well. Of course "we" know no such thing.

The Supreme Court will only overturn this law if it is NOT Constitutional. So, if this is a Supreme Court acting improperly in your view then this law is indeed Constitutional.

Therefore, since you feel qualified to critique the Supreme Court and indeed suggest some members of that most High Court are hypocrites, then clearly you should be able to answer why is this law constitutional or conversely, why is the Court being "activist" rather than doing it's job of deciding on what is Constitutional? For your benefit, here are the articles that pertain to Congress and its power to obtain money from U.S. Citizens.

Which one supports the Obamacare mandate that requires each citizen to buy an insurance policy or pay a fine or go to jail and why?

Section 8, Article 1.
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

Section 8, Article 3.
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;


I do not "feel" anything. Scalia has done it before, and he will do it again. He is the ultimate hypocrite when it comes to writing about one thing and then acting on the court in a completely opposite way when it suits him. This isn't about how I "feel". This is about reality.

Heller v DC is the best example. He spends better than half the decision trying to handwave away better than a century of precedent.

He's a fucking geek, shit I prefer a sawed off for home defense and would hope my neighbors do too, since the effective range is about ten feet, with little chance of unintentional penetration, and a lot better effect when it's dark and you just woke up, whereas a Desert Eagle .50 is going to go through you own children's bedroom, and at least Three other houses at lethal velocities.

Harder to conceal too.

I don't think anybody has used a sawed off to commit a crime in this country since they stopped transporting gold on stagecoaches.

Beside the point maybe, but Scalia appears to have little interaction with reality, his logic is abstract to the point of sterile irrelevance, I feel dumber after just reading it.

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RE: Obama warns the Highest Court in the Land against &... - 4/8/2012 10:31:08 AM   
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In fact I'm getting one of those .45/.410's - you can cap off Three rounds of .410 for suppressive fire without even aiming, with very little risk of killing your own family or the neighbors, and still have Two slugs left if that wasn't enough to encourage unconditional surrender or retreat.

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RE: Obama warns the Highest Court in the Land against &... - 4/8/2012 10:33:26 AM   
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FR to our Constitutional Scholars;

Well, I wonder how a Supreme Court can judge a law unconstitutional when all you keep whining about it enumerated powers.

I must have a different version of the constitution than you guys that don't know it, so I would like to have a lookie see at yours, I see nowhere in our constitution that gives the Supreme Court enumerated power to overturn a law as unconstitutional, or because it is unconstitutional.

Can one of you whiz kids point me out THAT enumerated power clause?

 

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RE: Obama warns the Highest Court in the Land against &... - 6/28/2012 8:12:53 AM   
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Did EVERYONE here miss the entire point? Which is that by trashing the healthcare act, they subvert their own rulings on the Interstate Commerce Clause? That means that the US would lose the ability to run the Drug War, since that's what the 1974 Drug Control Act is predicated on.

Unprecedented? Hell yeah... The USSC affirmed the ICC in Gonzales v. Raich ...




No. They took care of that on Monday as well as deciding the Mandate was not a "tax". Then decided the Mandate was Unconstitutional on Tuesday and wrapped this up on Wednesday bu deciding not to seperate Obamacare from the Mandate which put the whole Obamacare thing a small footnote in History.

Did you not get the memo?

Seems the Supreme Court didn't get the memo either.

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RE: Obama warns the Highest Court in the Land against &... - 6/28/2012 8:15:41 AM   
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Lets get Issa on it and see if we can get the memo. 

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RE: Obama warns the Highest Court in the Land against &... - 6/28/2012 10:09:30 AM   
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Lets get Issa on it and see if we can get the memo.


LOL! One of your best lines ever, Ron!

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RE: Obama warns the Highest Court in the Land against &... - 6/28/2012 10:11:44 AM   
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Meet me at Neitzsche.  I am gonna have some great ones. Especially if they actually vote contempt.  It is gonna be a fuckin hoot (and I know the teabaggers and neo-cons don't understand the law and what will happen).

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