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colouredin -> RE: Do you have to call a Dom "Sir" from "jump"? (11/3/2008 3:59:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: masterforRT

Damn, there's a lot of "toppers from the bottom" here!


Where?




sirsholly -> RE: Do you have to call a Dom "Sir" from "jump"? (11/3/2008 4:07:00 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: colouredin

quote:

ORIGINAL: masterforRT

Damn, there's a lot of "toppers from the bottom" here!


Where?

i didn't see any either




sambamanslilgirl -> RE: Do you have to call a Dom "Sir" from "jump"? (11/3/2008 5:24:59 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: masterforRT

Damn, there's a lot of "toppers from the bottom" here!

if you're not my Daddy, you don't get the right to be called "sir" simply because you have the title "master" in your name




DesFIP -> RE: Do you have to call a Dom "Sir" from "jump"? (11/3/2008 5:30:26 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: masterforRT
Damn, there's a lot of "toppers from the bottom" here!


None that I can see. However you seem to have confused being submissive to one as somehow meaning submissive to all. I suggest you get that cleared up asap.

Indeed, I am not allowed to submit to anyone other than him. So me calling anyone else Sir or Master would be a violation of his rules. Now if they call themselves Sir James, I will call them James, or SJ. But I will not submit in any way to someone who does not have the right and the authority to dominate me. Which you don't.




candystripper -> RE: Do you have to call a Dom "Sir" from "jump"? (11/3/2008 5:31:08 AM)

It's a nick, not a name.  I think some men get confused on this point.
 
Just because when you signed up for an account on CM, you chose MASTEROFTHEUNIVERSE as your nick, what appears on your birth certificate did not change..
 
If you happen to be named "David" and don't like to be called 'Dave',  I'm fine with that...because that's your name.  But I don't indulge whims about nicks.
 
candystripper  [sm=pole.gif]




dawntreader -> RE: Do you have to call a Dom "Sir" from "jump"? (11/3/2008 5:36:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kimmysue

Hi, I was just wondering about other people's opinion's on calling a Dom "Sir" from the get go.... I find it uncomfortable & for those who demand it, I find them very unattractive or serious about BDSM.


Interesting thread from the archives [:)]
 
i think it is up to individuals once again...at any event i have been to, i have referred to the person by how they have introduced themselves as. It is no big deal. However, in the "get to know you" stage. i do find it a bit presumptious for a Dominant to expect the term Master or Lord or God...but, some folks on either side of the kneel enjoy establishing those dynamics from the get go.
 
Having  dealt with alot of humiliating name calling as a teenager, i find quite a bit of courtesy is given and recieved by the use of one's given name...




Missokyst -> RE: Do you have to call a Dom "Sir" from "jump"? (11/3/2008 6:15:52 AM)

Got that right!  I generally call men sir if I cannot openly call them asshole.  When dealing with clients my manners become exceptionally formal the more of an idiot I percieve them to be, and I stop being warm and start being detached.
"Sir", for me is my way of being patronising.  LOL which they might get, if they had the intelligence to read an eyeroll.
Kyst
quote:

ORIGINAL: marieToo
  Respect/admiration really isnt in how you address someone anyway.




natasha66 -> RE: Do you have to call a Dom "Sir" from "jump"? (11/3/2008 6:58:22 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kimmysue

Hi, I was just wondering about other people's opinion's on calling a Dom "Sir" from the get go.... I find it uncomfortable & for those who demand it, I find them very unattractive or serious about BDSM.


I won't do it. Period.  Once I know you, then fine, but initially, right off the bat, nope.




ResidentSadist -> RE: Do you have to call a Dom "Sir" from "jump"? (11/3/2008 7:09:25 AM)

yes




LaTigresse -> RE: Do you have to call a Dom "Sir" from "jump"? (11/3/2008 7:20:58 AM)

For me personally, no one is going to get called anything other than their given name until they've laid the ground work for something that shows a measure of respect. My name is LeeAnn and that is what I am usually addressed as. If a girl finds it in herself to address me with a more respectful title, then I know I've done something to earn it.

I don't care for empty titles.




sambamanslilgirl -> RE: Do you have to call a Dom "Sir" from "jump"? (11/3/2008 7:48:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: candystripper

It's a nick, not a name.  I think some men get confused on this point.
 

because they enjoy living in fantasyland 24/7 which they refer themselves as "masteruberdominantofall" and expect all submissives/slaves to submit to that.




CarrieO -> RE: Do you have to call a Dom "Sir" from "jump"? (11/3/2008 7:55:13 AM)

I use the titles "Sir" and "Ma'am" everyday but it has nothing to do with submission. It has more to do with the protocol I'm expected to follow in my work environment.  

I have a couple of friends in a M/s relationship. He calls her "slave" and she calls him "Master". I call them by their given names because that's how I was introduced to them.  I asked him what he prefers and his reply was..."She's my slave and you're not." which makes sense to me. Why would a Dom/Domme want me to use a title that has no meaning? 

I don't see this as topping from below but as common sense. If a Dom/Domme needs to be addressed as Sir/Master then I would question why they feel the need to have me justify their dominance. There is something so honest and open about using a person's name instead of a title.
Just my opinion, though.

*edited to add...this was in response to the OP, not LaTigresse. Sorry for the mix-up.




CallaFirestormBW -> RE: Do you have to call a Dom "Sir" from "jump"? (11/3/2008 8:12:44 AM)

Sir, ma'am, miss, monseiur, etc., are simple terms of courtesy for me. I use them when I don't know the person well enough to address hir by name. It has no bearing, whatsoever, on our relative status.

I -prefer- to be addressed with courtesy, though I rarely have expectations of civility from -anyone- in this current social climate. It does, however, tend to incline me favorably to an individual who -does- use civil, courteous terms when approaching me.




VampiresLair -> RE: Do you have to call a Dom "Sir" from "jump"? (11/3/2008 8:23:19 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: masterforRT

Damn, there's a lot of "toppers from the bottom" here!

If all it takes for someone to top from the bottom is to make you earn a respectful title rather than devalue it by slinging it around worthlessly than I dont think there are enough of them!
I have no problem with anyone using my real name or my screenname instead of Maam or whatever. The name I am referred to as is not a measure of my dominance. However, insisting a virtual stranger do so to stroke your ego implies that you lack confidence in your ability to come across as a dominant if they arent reminding themselves constantly.

DV





candystripper -> RE: Do you have to call a Dom "Sir" from "jump"? (11/3/2008 10:24:02 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sambamanslilgirl

quote:

ORIGINAL: candystripper

It's a nick, not a name.  I think some men get confused on this point.
 

because they enjoy living in fantasyland 24/7 which they refer themselves as "masteruberdominantofall" and expect all submissives/slaves to submit to that.



Shhhh. 
 
Nobody is supposed to call anyone's 'thing' silly.
 
BDSM is big enough to include the wank-impaired, who cannot get off anymore without cyber....really we are!
 
candystripper  [sm=pole.gif]




CreativeDominant -> RE: Do you have to call a Dom "Sir" from "jump"? (11/3/2008 12:20:46 PM)

I find myself in agreement with Calla on this.  I consider Sir, Ma'am, miss to be common terms of courtesy.  I don't expect them to have Sir used with any degree of abundance in today's world of "stripping away the false veneer of civility" but I am more inclined towards those who do not have a problem with it.  When I address a patient or a saleswoman or a C.E.O. or a waiter I use whichever term is appropriate.  My music teacher is now a patient of mine.  He has been for the last 10 years.  He told me after the first few times he had been in "you don't have to call me Mr. O------ or "Sir"...you can call me Larry".  No...I can't.  I wasn't brought up that way.  It is the same reason I call out "Miss...could you help us?" in a restaurant rather than just say "Yo chickie...are you gonna wait on us or not?"




mc1234 -> RE: Do you have to call a Dom "Sir" from "jump"? (11/3/2008 12:45:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth
some guys are fond of "Lord" and some of the chicks like "Goddess"...so what?  this slave thinks the confidence in their demanding to be addressed like that is hot, and would call them whatever they wish to be referred as.
 
then again, this slave is a "people-pleaser" type, so go figure!!!  her philosophy is, most often, "if it makes them happy, so what? it's all good."[:)]


I agree with Beth ... I find myself using 'Sir' in im's or emails as a courtesy, and after awhile, a sign of respect - not as a sign of belonging to him. 




WinsomeDefiance -> RE: Do you have to call a Dom "Sir" from "jump"? (11/3/2008 1:03:30 PM)

My father was career military, and I was raised primarily in the south.  That said, calling someone Sir/Ma'am or Miss Charlotte (using my own name), is pretty natural but more an expression of courtesy than a reflection of WIITWD.  Courtesy is something I try to show anyone, and comes as naturally as saying thank you, no thank you, and yes please.

Strangers who demand deference, however, usually cause my natural tendencies toward courtesy to be perverted and much like I get this irrepressable urge to touch the wall when I see a "wet paint"sign, I am almost compelled to NOT show that deference.  I'm just odd that way.

WinD




LaTigresse -> RE: Do you have to call a Dom "Sir" from "jump"? (11/3/2008 1:45:24 PM)

Growing up in rural Iowa, you consider yourself fortunate if you do not get a "less than flattering" nickname. I had two. And NO, not without ALOT of money being handed over.




Jeptha -> RE: Do you have to call a Dom "Sir" from "jump"? (11/3/2008 2:40:01 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: dawntreader


Interesting thread from the archives [:)]


2006 must have been a very good year around here.
Lot's of threads from that year have been revived lately.




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