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RE: References for preowned slaves - 5/2/2012 12:21:36 PM

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Should a pre-owned slave be able to provide a reference from their former Master? As a Master, would you object to providing information to a potential new owner? I have considered, and decided against owning several slaves because their pasts were so vague. I want to know the slave was released by their Master, and why. I've released slaves and provided them with a document of release which included my contact information for a potential new Master to contact me.

Give me your thoughts.

ehh simple shit if some moron called and asked me about my ex... id be like really <after i finished laffing of course> What you dont have enuff confidence in your decision making process! <dialtone>

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RE: References for preowned slaves - 5/2/2012 1:39:42 PM

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Egad... I love this line. It is definitely going in one of my signatures.

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you can fairly assume by now is probably not a stabby stabby bunny-boiling headcase.

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RE: References for preowned slaves - 5/2/2012 1:40:02 PM

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Potential new Master: Hi, this is new Master. Is Master Ex there?
Master Ex's teenage daughter: Who?
Potential new Master: Master Ex?
Master Ex's teenage daughter: I don't know who you mean?
Potential new Master: Um, is Bob there?
Master Ex's teenage daughter: My dad?
Potential new Master: Oh. Um, ya.
Master Ex's teenage daughter: Who is this?
Potential new Master: New Master. I mean John.
Master Ex's teenage daughter: What? Do you know my dad? How did you get this number?
Potential new Master: Um, no, but I was referred to him by his former slav... friend.
Master Ex's teenage daughter: Huh? Why are you calling?
Potential new Master: Um, is there a better time to call back and talk to Mast... Bob?
Master Ex's teenage daughter: I don't think so...

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RE: References for preowned slaves - 5/2/2012 4:50:53 PM

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It isn't backwards at all.

I think you've misunderstood me. All I meant was that it is backwards to say 'Resource A could help determine whether or not task X will be successful with variable n. I have succeeded in task X with variable n without checking resource A. Ergo, resource A is useless.'

That is a backwards statement to make.

References are stupid, for all sorts of reasons. But saying 'Carol and I were fine without a reference, so references are stupid' is backwards.

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RE: References for preowned slaves - 5/6/2012 7:53:49 AM

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I will only speak about a previous slave if they have given me the ok. If they ask me to give them a recommendation(whether good or bad) I will do so,but will keep it to a non-biased assessment. State the facts as they are.

I do ask previous slaves if they have references from which i can call on to discuss potentials and skills already attained. By asking a previous owner, it is not to prove or dis prove themselves persay. it is more for my interpretation of them from a previous owners point of view(types of training,skills triggers,mental state.etc..) this may or may not influence my judgement of the person, as we are all different and have different ways of doing/dealing with things.

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RE: References for preowned slaves - 5/6/2012 11:48:54 AM

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When threads like this come up, I often wonder, are people's filters and instincts really that dead?

That is typically my thought as well. Admittedly, I'm in the "relationship camp," so someone asking me for references like it was a job interview would be immediately discarded.

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RE: References for preowned slaves - 5/6/2012 11:49:54 AM

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It isn't backwards at all.

I think you've misunderstood me. All I meant was that it is backwards to say 'Resource A could help determine whether or not task X will be successful with variable n. I have succeeded in task X with variable n without checking resource A. Ergo, resource A is useless.'

That is a backwards statement to make.

References are stupid, for all sorts of reasons. But saying 'Carol and I were fine without a reference, so references are stupid' is backwards.

You are right, I did misunderstand what you were saying. It would seem we think of references the same way.

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RE: References for preowned slaves - 5/6/2012 3:35:32 PM

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I have to say I think a written "reference" would be pointless

Not all relatonships end amicably, not all break ups are instigated by the Dominant party etc...

Sometimes things don't work out... I love one of my ex partners dearly but we were not a long term match... why did it break up? neither of us were fufilled simple as that...

And at the end of the day if you want someone to be "your" slave, what does it matter if she suited another owner or not?

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RE: References for preowned slaves - 5/7/2012 5:33:37 AM

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This is plain creepy. Glad there is so little of this type of thinking. A person should be able to develop a relation ship based on their own judgement.
It would be nice to have so many slaves lining up though that you have to turn them away for not having proper papers. lol

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RE: References for preowned slaves - 5/7/2012 10:00:32 AM

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Greetings all....

The quality of any reference is important. If someone is well known and respected, you will take their words much more completely than someone you have never heard of. If you see the words of someone here, their length of membership and number of posts may make a difference. Think of how much more weight someone has who 60 posts as opposed to 6 or 6000 vs 600. I know, number of posts doesn't indicate quality of posts but the someone with 6000 posts is better known than someone with 6 posts and much less likely to be someone's sock puppet.

Your logic escapes me just because you are "well known" or respected. does NOT mean anything to me nor to many others. Most ppl would agree the President is well known respected ehhh who knows. Something like 47 % are NOT in his fan club. Those are pretty typical results...

The point being some ppl will like you and others won't regardless of popularity

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RE: References for preowned slaves - 5/11/2012 8:10:18 AM

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in my opinion asking is the most important thing, and the slave sub or dominant should not flinch or find it wrong to do so. I give full disclosure, now lol , if they want my previous owners name and feel that His say so is better than mine , so be it . It proves to me that there is no trust. Conversations would have had to have taken place before reaching the ownership stage and if in this time the dominant doesn't know me, and whether i am worthy or not , then it would be a communication problem to me and i would step back from further contact

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RE: References for preowned slaves - 5/11/2012 12:56:58 PM

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Should a pre-owned slave be able to provide a reference from their former Master? No.

As a Master, would you object to providing information to a potential new owner? Yes.

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RE: References for preowned slaves - 5/11/2012 3:41:36 PM

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Do preowned slaves come at a discount? I mean if i take them off the lot do they automatically depreciate in value?

Who decides how reputable a reference is anyway...

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RE: References for preowned slaves - 5/11/2012 4:20:55 PM

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But but, if they are preowned, is it the *standard* depreciation? Does mileage effect the blue book price? We thinking doms need to know this crap.

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