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kalikshama -> RE: I am so stupid. (5/2/2012 2:38:13 PM)

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Oh and Kali, yes I changed My pic. I haven't had any mean girl attacks,lol. I was being facetious. :)


Oh, I didn't think you had; I was using this to dispute the OP.




Karmastic -> RE: I am so stupid. (5/2/2012 3:49:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aswad

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ORIGINAL: MistressDarkArt

Again with your ass. Like I mentioned, scrawny flanks and butts remind me of the stringy part of a chopped chicken. Nothing to admire or lust over. You repeatedly mention it so do you feel this is the best you have to offer? If you're on your way out, kindly take your ass discussion with you. It's tedious.


This is the second time you're biting her ass here.

It's not classy, not very appropriate, and certainly qualifies as a personal attack.

Be catty elsewhere, please. She's not palatable, true. That's no reason to be unpalatable yourself. Two wrongs and all that.

(This is me not reporting your post, cause I hope you can see it yourself.)

IWYW,
- Aswad.


i love you aswad. i don't know whether to applaud you, or shh you so i can watch. meh, both!




Karmastic -> RE: I am so stupid. (5/2/2012 3:53:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze
To be honest, I think it boils down to that some pros just say they are pros and she sees it as advertising while she can't advertise her kink related stuff here, so possibly stirring up controversity is her way of marketing, unfortunately she doesn't do it the Lady Gaga way and more the Mel Gibson way. It would be a good deal easier to just put a link to her wares in the sig line, simple!

I know I should have just ignored her and not fed the Troll, but her hypocrisy and holier than thou BS just got on my tits..

brilliant! i bet it works




LadyPact -> RE: I am so stupid. (5/2/2012 4:02:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: VanessaChaland
And lastly, all of the attacks, all of them, were initiated by "Pro-Dommes" against me. So apparently its fine for them to launch it, but when you try to defend yourself, Ahhhhh, thats a problem. Whatever.

Had you bothered to read the thread that you started, I made it very clear in post #51 that was not the case.  I won't bother to restate Myself.  It's a waste of keystrokes.  There are only a few options left at this point.  One of those is that you intentionally remain ignorant.  Another is that you are aware of the truth as others have told it to you and you prefer to continue to lie about a person's profession, kinks, and/or orientation.  I find it highly unlikely to believe that you are delusional enough that you sincerely believe your version is the truth.  That troll suggestion is starting to gain some validity.

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama
Here's that thread: http://www.collarchat.com/m_4103070/tm.htm

I thought your "Cuckoldry, Kink and Religion" OP had a lot of potential. Alas, it devolved into a bunch of personal attacks and off topic nonsense about your ass, by several posters, including you, all of which I reported and the mods removed. So stop feeling special - there were several other posters who had their derails removed.

(I had mixed feelings about reporting the posts, as they were quite funny, but I thought your OP was a good one unfortunately derailed by discussion of your ass.)

I agree with the highlighted above.  The topic that was presented is one that I have written various responses to within the context of other threads.  Usually, I go more from the angle that I'm a sadist and I'm poly, yet I'm also a person of faith, and base My comments on reconciling that.

Unfortunately, in reading the thread (prior to the pulls) and watching the disintegration, it was obvious that any effort to contribute would be lost in the off topics and the stuff going back and forth.  It might have been the only legitimate thread (meaning not a wank thread) on cuckolding that I haven't wanted to be a part of due to what was already happening.

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ORIGINAL: MrBukani
Anyone not seeing the title as some sort of trap is a damn fool.

That may be true in My case.  When I saw the thread title, I thought it was one of those 'I did something so silly/stupid that it was funny' kind of things.  I admit, I post that kind of thing fairly regularly.

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ORIGINAL: Karmastic
to answer JanahX's astute observation that this is oxymoronic - the truth is, the OP loves doing what she does. and we love bashing her for it.

In the highlighted above, you would be incorrect.  There is a difference between bashing and relating the honest opinion that has been formed through various observations of interactions.

Let's say that you came on the boards here and any time somebody didn't agree with you or you repeatedly engaged in the kind of behavior that has been discussed in this thread.  Add in the part that the "somebody" changes, meaning it's noticed that this occurs with several people across various forums.  However, you are always the common denominator.  Example after example, people pick up on the fact that you are acting like a dick.

When I come around and tell you that you are acting like a dick, that's not bashing.  That's telling you the honesty of the matter.  The fact that you don't think you are being a dick doesn't change whether you really are being one or not.  When you are darn near the only one who doesn't think you are being a dick, but you get input from dozens of other people that say otherwise, it's time to wake up and realize that you are coming across to other people as a dick.




Aswad -> RE: I am so stupid. (5/2/2012 4:21:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Karmastic

i love you aswad. i don't know whether to applaud you, or shh you so i can watch. meh, both!


Well, it's been my observation that given rope, people are apt to make a noose and check how well it'll support their neck. The more likely the rope will hold, the more likely they step off the platform. Sadly, it seems there's a misconception that the Tyburn dance is a "more the merrier" thing, meant for the audience to join in, which tends to be more of a distraction than anything else, really.

Mrs. Chaland has taken a very noose friendly approach here, and while I realize it was at one point in history customary to pay kids to hang off your legs when taking a swing (and I can see why they might want to hang off that particular set of legs), it strikes me as less than elegant to hang off someone's ass for a similar purpose, regardless of whether one has mistaken it for edible chicken parts or not.

IWYW,
- Aswad.




Karmastic -> RE: I am so stupid. (5/2/2012 4:22:42 PM)

lol, as usual, who can argue with that rational, intelligent analysis. i was being flippant and a bit too general & inclusive (even regarding myself) when i said we love it.

i don't "love" it generally speaking. i try to be the voice of reason (as do you). but frankly, at some point, you realize you're dealing with a person who enjoys this self-flagellation under the guise of superiority. i.e., they want to play a scene, and we (collectively) are more than happy to oblige. cus it's the interwebs!

so i would respectfully, in my nicest purple voice, say don't try to over analyze it too much.




TNDommeK -> RE: I am so stupid. (5/2/2012 4:24:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

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Oh and Kali, yes I changed My pic. I haven't had any mean girl attacks,lol. I was being facetious. :)


Oh, I didn't think you had; I was using this to dispute the OP.


Oh, haha, I have blond moments from time to time,lol.

And VC, all you have to do is delete your profile, no need to get banned. Or just try not returning here. I gave you advice on how to redo yourself. So your song and dance of "oh Im still here?" is really not needed nor believed. Isn't there a facebook page you can sell your craft on? You bring nothing but negativity here, which isn't wanted. Really this is what someone with a life enjoys doing?




MissKittyDeVine -> RE: I am so stupid. (5/2/2012 4:36:02 PM)

I was completely sincere. For some time I have observed your attacks on findommes without comment, but finally I decided to enquire why you saw your business as superior. Your argument boils down to ´I am more real than you´.

Hmmm.


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ORIGINAL: VanessaChaland

The "snark" title notwithstanding, I will assume you are at least somewhat sincere so....

Apples and oranges. Lets say I own a restaurant....thats about food right? Out front is some lady begging for food. Are they the same thing? Not at all. One is selling a tangible product, the other is....not. Using your logic/analogy one would assume you are comparing someone that sells condoms or marital aids to a hooker? Same thing? Of course not.

My life is about female empowerment and providing for myself and helping and sharing with others. This to me, is a form of Female Dominance at best or equality at the least. Being hired to act as an actress to satsify mens sexual fantasies has nothing to do with female dominance, its simply a job, they are employees. They work by the hour, the chat, the stroke, the whack...off, lol.....or whatever.

One has nothing to do with the other. On one hand I have no major issue with anyone in whatever version of the sex industry. One the other hand I am not a fan of other women, at least not those that have options, that decide to grab the lowest hanging fruit and try for nothing in life other than what they can get paid for upon realizing they have a (keep it clean for the hyper-sensitive Mods, its like a fucking church in here) "vagina" between our legs. Applying oneself to strive for better and more than just what is some version of the oldest profession is admirable.

Keeping it short as most of my posts are now deleted by a Mod who scolds me for posting "off topic" post about things like religion and sex int the "Religion and Sex' category and using four letter words towards me while complaining that I've been using four letter words in my posts, lol. This site is bizarre.

Blog post from about a year ago that shows my opinion are nothing new: http://fetishfurniturefactory.blogspot.com/2011/05/primer-for-wanna-be-pro.html

And lastly, all of the attacks, all of them, were initiated by "Pro-Dommes" against me. So apparently its fine for them to launch it, but when you try to defend yourself, Ahhhhh, thats a problem. Whatever.




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ORIGINAL: MissKittyDeVine

Vanessa, would you kindly explain why you are so ultra-critical of pro dommes when you yourself make money from the kinks of others? Why is providing furniture or plans in exchange for money so different from providing sessions?

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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

Yall are mean. All she wants to do is sell furniture. She puts all kinds of naked pics with the furniture to set her apart from the lowlifes that try to use sex to make money off poor unsuspecting guys.











OsideGirl -> RE: I am so stupid. (5/2/2012 4:52:12 PM)

Meh....




TNDommeK -> RE: I am so stupid. (5/2/2012 7:54:59 PM)

I think Oside said it best..."meh."




MistressDarkArt -> RE: I am so stupid. (5/2/2012 9:05:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aswad


Mrs. Chaland has taken a very noose friendly approach here, and while I realize it was at one point in history customary to pay kids to hang off your legs when taking a swing (and I can see why they might want to hang off that particular set of legs), it strikes me as less than elegant to hang off someone's ass for a similar purpose, regardless of whether one has mistaken it for edible chicken parts or not.

IWYW,
- Aswad.



Aswad, I think you missed my point. Deliberately gluing a bulls-eye on one's backside when one doesn't like being corn-holed is a rather counterintuitive approach. When someone calls attention that they are a target, they can expect to be viewed as such.




Aswad -> RE: I am so stupid. (5/3/2012 3:32:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressDarkArt

Aswad, I think you missed my point.


I think you missed mine, as well: she's abrasive, and you're out of line.

If anything constitutes a personal attack, going for someone's appearance does. Should it be in any way unclear how and why that is out of line on these boards, or elsewhere, I will happily attempt to explain, but I'm inclined to assume that you are able to see it yourself. Similarly, if it is unclear how one person doing something wrong fails to legitimize another person breaking the rules in a private venue, I can attempt to explain that, as well, but again think you see it.

IWYW,
- Aswad.




kalikshama -> RE: I am so stupid. (5/3/2012 5:01:23 AM)

You are aware that this thread will sputter out and die once you cease returning to it, aren't you?

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What is amusing is I got a warning from the Moderator earlier today. The irony is that its my post on trying to convince you sorry lot to band together and ban me, and how I had already told them to do it several times. This site, its rules and Moderators just keep getting odder by the moment, lol.


Oh, I doubt that. From my faint recollection of your last post, which appears to have been pulled, it was yet another personal attack. If you post the warning message you received, I will endeavor to explain to you in terms you can understand why the warning was not arbitrary.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: I am so stupid. (5/3/2012 10:28:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Aswad

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ORIGINAL: MistressDarkArt

Aswad, I think you missed my point.


I think you missed mine, as well: she's abrasive, and you're out of line.

If anything constitutes a personal attack, going for someone's appearance does. Should it be in any way unclear how and why that is out of line on these boards, or elsewhere, I will happily attempt to explain, but I'm inclined to assume that you are able to see it yourself. Similarly, if it is unclear how one person doing something wrong fails to legitimize another person breaking the rules in a private venue, I can attempt to explain that, as well, but again think you see it.

IWYW,
- Aswad.



Thank you, Aswad. The "you're ugly and your mother dresses you funny" comments that pop up whenever someone wants to feel superior don't have a place ANYWHERE.




VideoAdminGamma -> RE: I am so stupid. (5/3/2012 10:33:56 AM)

I think the last post above shall be it for now. It is a good one for everyone to ponder.

VideoAdminGamma





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