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mnottertail -> RE: More from the Birther front (5/18/2012 6:19:06 AM)

So, with nothing else, they are going to run a birther campaign?

Willard Romney-Rodriguez and Michelle Bachmann-Hockenhohenstein, and Condoleeza Rice-Ubuntu will have none of it.





Yachtie -> RE: More from the Birther front (5/18/2012 6:34:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie

fr

Link

The AP reporter stated the following:

Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.

This report explains the context of the oft cited debate, between Obama and Keyes in the following Fall, in which Keyes faulted Obama for not being a “natural born citizen”, and in which Obama, by his quick retort, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency”, self-admitted that he was not eligible for the office. Seeing that an AP reporter is too professional to submit a story which was not based on confirmed sources (ostensibly the Obama campaign in this case), the inference seems inescapable: Obama himself was putting out in 2004, that he was born in Kenya.



It would appear that english is not your native language.
Perhaps you could show where, in any grammar of the english language, "so what" = "I am not a natural born citizen".
Terms like "so what,whatever,your point?" more clearly mean "fuck you your point is irrelevant"





[sm=LMAO.gif] That's a quote [see link], which is why I italicized it. Oh, and since you brought up grammar, English is capitalized.

bwahahahahaha

You Obamaites. Clueless you are.




thompsonx -> RE: More from the Birther front (5/18/2012 9:29:54 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie


quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx


quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie

fr

Link

The AP reporter stated the following:

Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.

This report explains the context of the oft cited debate, between Obama and Keyes in the following Fall, in which Keyes faulted Obama for not being a “natural born citizen”, and in which Obama, by his quick retort, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency”, self-admitted that he was not eligible for the office. Seeing that an AP reporter is too professional to submit a story which was not based on confirmed sources (ostensibly the Obama campaign in this case), the inference seems inescapable: Obama himself was putting out in 2004, that he was born in Kenya.



It would appear that english is not your native language.
Perhaps you could show where, in any grammar of the english language, "so what" = "I am not a natural born citizen".
Terms like "so what,whatever,your point?" more clearly mean "fuck you your point is irrelevant"





[sm=LMAO.gif] That's a quote [see link], which is why I italicized it. Oh, and since you brought up grammar, English is capitalized.


When a poster runs out of intellectual game they typically attack spelling which is why I include them.

quote:

bwahahahahaha

You Obamaites. Clueless you are.


If you would care to pay attention to what I post, instead of what you feel you can defend, you would note that I have stated that the only differences between this president and the last one is that this one has bigger ears and is more articulate.
Obamaites indeed.[8|]




Yachtie -> RE: More from the Birther front (5/18/2012 9:48:53 AM)

Even Michelle O says Barry is Kenyan

YouTube's a bitch, ain't it[8D]




Musicmystery -> RE: More from the Birther front (5/18/2012 10:00:17 AM)

Damn Kenyans coming here to steal our jobs.

[image]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lt4s856IKf1qz77ano1_500.jpg[/image]




mnottertail -> RE: More from the Birther front (5/18/2012 10:03:07 AM)

Nope.  It shows the desperation of the teabaggers....

I remember when Kennedy took a trip to the 'home country' of Ireland, and W to the 'home country' of Texas (and I am too lazy to look them up).

So, perhaps all this was worth seeing, but it wasn't worth coming to see.  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF_ahaYXHL4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fp8_nP3fE4

youtubes a bitch.




subspaceseven -> RE: More from the Birther front (5/18/2012 10:16:34 AM)

Well, at least "Barry" is running with his birth cert name, something little willard is not....

and really to they really think this birther issue is going to work????? it has not except for the likes of the far right zealots and bachman




RacerJim -> RE: More from the Birther front (5/18/2012 10:19:19 AM)

Even Barack O says Barry is Kenyan

In 2007 Michelle O Says Barry Is Kenyan And America Is Mean

YouTube's a bitch indeed, ain't it :-)




AP: Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate

AP's a bitch also, ain't it :-)


Hawaii Revised Statutes
§338-17.8 Certificates for children born out of State:
(a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.
(b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.

Hawaii Law's a bitch also, ain't it. :-)




Lucylastic -> RE: More from the Birther front (5/18/2012 10:28:53 AM)

quote:

AP: Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate

AP's a bitch also, ain't it :-)


Debunked sine 2009 Jim, [8|]
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ap.asp

http://legacy.utsandiego.com/news/politics/20040625-1644-illinoissenate.html

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001966048_cdig26.html
the two leftovers of the actual "AP" report. Notice the difference???

[image]local://upfiles/228382/E475B6E99A874DA1A35F67CB78E05D18.jpg[/image]




Moonhead -> RE: More from the Birther front (5/18/2012 10:31:40 AM)

It's very wrong of me, but I have a mental image of teh Kenyan spanking Mrs Clinton at the end of every day's Cabinet business to punish her for setting this ball rolling in the first place...




Lucylastic -> RE: More from the Birther front (5/18/2012 10:37:44 AM)

THank you for that hysterical visual.
Not sure Hils is a bottom tho. I think she would give as good as she gets.
Or maybe thats just my mind:)




Musicmystery -> RE: More from the Birther front (5/18/2012 12:47:55 PM)

Gosh, he sure slipped one by the entire U.S. Intelligence operation.

In which case, he's the least of our troubles.




subrob1967 -> RE: More from the Birther front (5/18/2012 3:10:54 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: subspaceseven

Well, at least "Barry" is running with his birth cert name, something little willard is not....

and really to they really think this birther issue is going to work????? it has not except for the likes of the far right zealots and bachman


Um, wanna bet Mitt is listed Willard on every ballot? I kinda remembered a time when it wasn't ok to use the President's middle name, and people whining about me calling him Hussein.




thompsonx -> RE: More from the Birther front (5/18/2012 3:16:50 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: RacerJim

Even Barack O says Barry is Kenyan

In 2007 Michelle O Says Barry Is Kenyan And America Is Mean

YouTube's a bitch indeed, ain't it :-)




AP: Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate

AP's a bitch also, ain't it :-)


Hawaii Revised Statutes
§338-17.8 Certificates for children born out of State:
(a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.
(b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.

Hawaii Law's a bitch also, ain't it. :-)



Aside from the black guy how many other presidents have you demanded produce their birth certificate?




mnottertail -> RE: More from the Birther front (5/18/2012 3:19:53 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: subrob1967


quote:

ORIGINAL: subspaceseven

Well, at least "Barry" is running with his birth cert name, something little willard is not....

and really to they really think this birther issue is going to work????? it has not except for the likes of the far right zealots and bachman


Um, wanna bet Mitt is listed Willard on every ballot? I kinda remembered a time when it wasn't ok to use the President's middle name, and people whining about me calling him Hussein.


I dont call him mittens, I call him willard. And I called reagan dutch, and nixon tricky dickie, and read my lips read my lips and w w.




truckinslave -> RE: More from the Birther front (5/18/2012 4:58:38 PM)

Which begs the questions of where she got the fact that she didn't correct.. and why, btw, it wasn;\'t corrected until 2007.




Yachtie -> RE: More from the Birther front (5/18/2012 5:46:23 PM)

Michelle O says he's a Kenyan at a fundraiser in 2007.

Guess she's mighty confused. She should not rely on Barack's publicist. [8|]




Fightdirecto -> RE: More from the Birther front (5/18/2012 7:46:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
read the right wing blogs and message boards, they are insisting this is gonna be the end of Obama


Any student of history can easly tell where the Birthers are getting their inspiration:

quote:

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it....one fundamental principle must be borne in mind constantly - you must confine yourself to a few points and repeat them over and over

- Joseph Goebbels, Minister Of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda, Germany 1933 to 1945





truckinslave -> RE: More from the Birther front (5/19/2012 5:24:37 AM)

quote:

So, with nothing else, they are going to run a birther campaign?


In a forum full of ignorance, you still find a way to stand out.




truckinslave -> RE: More from the Birther front (5/19/2012 5:29:21 AM)

For years I have said that my best guess was that 0bama0 was born in Hawaii. No more.

1. For years we "birthers" were ridiculed for demanding a birth certificate. We were told that we were less than idiots, because any idiot could look up the BC on line where 0bama0 had gone to the unprecedented length of posting it. Efforts to educate those to the different forms available from Hawaii fell on willfully deaf ears.

2. During those same years 0bama0 went (and still goes) to desperate lengths to avoid letting any court examine any evidence, hear any case, that might result in the court defining "natural born citizen". I assumed, giving 0bama0 the benefit of the doubt, that he worried the court would conclude- as I and many others have- that the proper definition of NBC would require both parents to be American citizens. That would, of course, render moot the question of where he was born. The new evidence shows that he had much more than his questionable (in several senses) paternity on his mind.

3. Then along came Trump, and his exuberant, unapologetic, very very loud embrace of birtherism. And- poof!!!- an alleged Hawaiian long form birth certificate appeared as though by magic (or fraud). As an aside, none of those who ever belittled us apologized for having called us idiots, racists, and fools even though the second form proved the worthlessness of the form they had been exalting.

And then along came Sheriff Joe Arapaio, and his investigative posse. I'm not going to go into all of it; I'm not at all sure that I understand all of it yet. But the birth certificate is a fake.
Short form:

It was created digitally, in layers. As such, when it first appeared on the web, people downloaded it and deconstructed it, in layers. That cannot be done by the programs these people used if the image downloaded was a solid, printed form scanned into the web.
Shortly after this was reported the White House (evidently) printed the form they had created and scanned it onto their website, replacing the digitally created image they had first put up. The obvious forgery exists, however, in tens of thousands, perhaps millions of downloads around the world.

He's a fraud. Period.

Arizona is threatening to keep him off the ballot. If even one state does, the reaction from the 0bama0 camp, and the waterfall effect from the other states, may finally get the issue heard in the courts.





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