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bondage and bladder infectioms - 6/6/2006 11:50:30 AM   
desertdancer


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Status: offline 		Master likes to tie me up, however I am prone to getting horrible bladder infections, so I have a horrible fear of being tied, Master understands this and I know for a fact He would never wish to do anything to cause bladder infections. Nurses always suggest going to the rest room right before sex and directly after, however, being restrained would make this difficult...
I could of course be released directly after, then use a trip to the restroom, but this holds the prtential for inturepting sub-space for me.
being tired up because of my fear is the quickest way to bring me to sub-space, so I am wondering if any of you know of ways to prevent bladder infections, or have suggestions?

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RE: bondage and bladder infectioms - 6/6/2006 12:33:30 PM   
leatherorlace


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Status: offline 		Did the nurses also recommend that the both of you wash your hands thoroughly before and after any play where they are used? Even coitus can be a source for bacteria, but an eager finger can spread bacteria like mad.
  I maintain that the usage of cranberry products can affect the rate and severity of infections, but, I'm probably wrong, I'm sure that Google can trounce that theory. lol
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Master likes to tie me up, however I am prone to getting horrible bladder infections, so I have a horrible fear of being tied, Master understands this and I know for a fact He would never wish to do anything to cause bladder infections. Nurses always suggest going to the rest room right before sex and directly after, however, being restrained would make this difficult...
I could of course be released directly after, then use a trip to the restroom, but this holds the prtential for inturepting sub-space for me.
being tired up because of my fear is the quickest way to bring me to sub-space, so I am wondering if any of you know of ways to prevent bladder infections, or have suggestions?

thank you
dancer


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RE: bondage and bladder infectioms - 6/6/2006 1:15:27 PM   
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Did the nurses also recommend that the both of you wash your hands thoroughly before and after any play where they are used? Even coitus can be a source for bacteria, but an eager finger can spread bacteria like mad.
  I maintain that the usage of cranberry products can affect the rate and severity of infections, but, I'm probably wrong, I'm sure that Google can trounce that theory. lol
M. Gentry


Actually this is very good advice and the reason I know is I'm diabetic and very prone to bladder infections. My doctor gave me this advice as well as saying to drink lots of water and cranberry juice. Also any toys that you use for insertion must have a condom on them and make sure that your play partner cleans up under his finger nails because bacteria can hide there as well.
Good luck and I hope you stay well.

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RE: bondage and bladder infectioms - 6/6/2006 1:25:35 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		It doesn't sound like the bondage is the problem- it's having sex and not being able to pee afterwards.

If you're going to do bondage play AND have sex or play around near the urethra, just make sure the ties are quick release and, as others suggested, drink the water and get the area/hands/toys clean before playing.

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RE: bondage and bladder infectioms - 6/6/2006 1:57:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		i have also found that if i regularly drink cranberrry juice (not juice cocktail but juice) that i am less suspectible to UTI's than if i don't do so.



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RE: bondage and bladder infectioms - 6/6/2006 2:38:09 PM   
desertdancer


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Status: offline 		Thank you all, No no nurse ever mentioned condoms on toys or washing hands, though admittedly am a hand washing freak, maybe it's a touch of OCD.  Master also washes His hands frequently but not always before sex.   This I will suggest to Him.  Also, I have to admit, I have stayed away from anything cranberry for about a year, I was on a cancer diet for 6 years and the main staple of it was cranberries, but if it will keep me from infections, cranberries will be added to my diet agian! And quickly !

Thank you,
dancer

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RE: bondage and bladder infectioms - 6/6/2006 2:43:42 PM   
timeoutgurlie


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Status: offline 		Well, when you were on the diet that consisted of lots of cranberries, did you notice that you didn't get the infections?  Or you suffered despite the 'berries in your diet? 

And did the nurse or a doctor ever explain how peeing after sex is helping prevent a bladder infection?  I'm not saying I disagree, just that I can't wrap my brain around the concept.  If intercourse is possibly getting bacteria into the vagina...how does this effect a woman's bladder?

Hoep you find a solution that works for you without being intrusive to your enjoyment as a couple

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RE: bondage and bladder infectioms - 6/6/2006 2:43:51 PM   
angelface183


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Status: offline 		I have the same problem and luckily my Master is very understanding.  I have a LOT of orgasms with Him and with every one comes the urge to pee.  He knows what to look for (panic in my eyes, spitting out the ball gag) and after a while I will tell Him, "Master I cannot take it anymore!  I have to pee!"  He just lets me go and then we return to where we were.   Be very specific about what your physical needs are; if your Master does not understand, then He is not worth you risking your health.

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RE: bondage and bladder infectioms - 6/6/2006 3:05:49 PM   
desertdancer


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Status: offline 		Angelface, I am exactly the same way, I have lots of orgasms during sex with Master, and yes they do bring the urge to pee, I've had to ask to be let up to go then hurry right back!

Timeoutgirlie, the nurses said that bacteria travels while having sex and the distance between the urethra and the bladder on a female is very small.  So that any bactirea can travel very quickly..

I am also wondering, Master is well, big, I wonder if added pressure along with trying to hold off going pee while having sex can be an issue too...?

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RE: bondage and bladder infectioms - 6/6/2006 3:14:58 PM   
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And did the nurse or a doctor ever explain how peeing after sex is helping prevent a bladder infection?  I'm not saying I disagree, just that I can't wrap my brain around the concept.  If intercourse is possibly getting bacteria into the vagina...how does this effect a woman's bladder?



During intercourse the penis often comes in contact with the female urethra. Sometimes the normal "skin bacteria" or other bacteria that may be on the penis, enters the urethra and travels upwards, producing a urinary tract infection. Peeing after sex can "flush" or " push" the bacteria out before it has a chance to cause harm.

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RE: bondage and bladder infectioms - 6/6/2006 3:32:30 PM   
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I am also wondering, Master is well, big, I wonder if added pressure along with trying to hold off going pee while having sex can be an issue too...? 


Just from personal experience I would have to agree with you.  SacredDom is much larger than my past lovers and I do have the urge to pee much more often than I ever have with another lover.  Stop trying to hold off having to pee;  when you gotta go, GO! 

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RE: bondage and bladder infectioms - 6/6/2006 6:14:40 PM   
timeoutgurlie


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Status: offline 		Thanks for clearing up why peeing is important, it was frustrating to not be able to piece it all together, now I feel much better

I know this is a totally different problem, but runs along the same issue.  A medication I had to take for an extended period had the side effect "increased risk of yeast infection", which my doctor explained was a more marketable term for, "Will cause them in anyone with a vagina"   I searched the net for any info I could get and saw that plain, sugar free yogurt is great for any kind of infection.  There are also supplements you can get at any health food store, ACIDOPHILUS, both websites as well as my doctor have said this works well.  I can't guarantee it would be helpful for bladder infections, but it's worth a shot, maybe someone here in the med. field will know or you could ask your doctor.

They did work for me, I never did get an infection.  Hope it helps

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RE: bondage and bladder infectioms - 6/6/2006 6:30:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Emptying the bladder flushes the bacteria out of the vagina and the bladder also.  Ascending infections from the normal flora in the vagina are the most common cause of bladder, kidney and uterine infections.  The cranberry helps to increase renal filtration rate, increasing urine output, and flushing the bladder more frequently to help prevent colonization by bacteria.  Thus drinking more water helps with the process by allowing the kidney to increase filtration, if the body is dehydrated the kidney works double time saving water instead of removing it and toxins along with it.  Urination immediately after sex may not be necessary, but certainly reduces risk of infection from any bacteria introduced during play.

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RE: bondage and bladder infectioms - 6/8/2006 8:46:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		For a brief time in my life I was on a medication that for some reason gave me a bladder infection almost every other week, it just somehow trounced my system and that's how it affected me. Cranberry juice was the same as water to me and that helped some, the concentrated cranberry capsules (at any drug/vitamin store) made it easier to get the same amount of juice without the pricetag of drinking the same.
The other thing that REALLY REALLY helped is that showers became my foreplay.. my Partner and I started showering together pre-sex to make sure we had all bits as clean as possible beforehand and post-play as part of my after-care he would get a basin of warm water and gentle soap and bathe my nether regions (rinsing with clean water after of course) and when I was ready to move, he'd escort me to the bathroom. I don't know how He did it, but putting that kind of effort in every single day (or sometimes more than once a day) we'd go through all of this, just because he wanted me to still get to scene, but not suffer for it.

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RE: bondage and bladder infectioms - 6/9/2006 4:49:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ah haaaaa... you can avoid cranberries if you wish!  The trick is to acidify your urine, hence the point of cranberries... so what you need is a big fat dose of vitamin C every single day without fail.  Bacteria cannot grow in an acidic environment, so you will be able to avoid this problem.  I'm prone to these too, and have many patients that are as well. 
HTH.

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RE: bondage and bladder infectioms - 6/9/2006 4:58:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Excuse me please ladies,

I just want to add a thought here regarding cranberries. I understand about wanting to keep infections in check, however make sure you check your ph balance. If your body becomes too acidic, you can create other health problems. You can get a pack of ph strips & just squirt on them, then compare strip color against a ph chart (usually included).

Thank you for your time.
Back to your debate.

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RE: bondage and bladder infectioms - 6/9/2006 8:13:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		They're finding that cranberry juice, itself, is really the best way to avoid UTIs - even using cranberry pills hasn't been that great for preventing it. http://www.spinalcord.uab.edu/show.asp?durki=59866 - thus I'm loath to say other acidic items (orange juice, vit. C supplements, etc.) are just as good. So, in my opinion, a cup of yogurt and actual cranberry juice (not cocktail) is your best bet.

Would it be possible to incorporate urinating into part of your play? Would you or your master be confortable offering you something to pee into half-way through play, clean you up after, and go right back to playing - you never have to get untied for it? I understand it may be passed your or his squickness level, though. Thought I'd toss it out there, though!

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RE: bondage and bladder infectioms - 6/10/2006 9:35:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		The distance between vagina and urethra also varies among women.  Usually there is 1/2" of space or so.  But I had one sub whose urethra was virtually inside the opening of her vagina.  She would get a UTI every time she did not pee ASAP after vaginal sexual activity, even just using dildos covered with condoms.  The issue was normal vaginal bacteria getting forced into the urethra, and rubbed into microtears in the mucus membrane caused by the friction.

She tried cranberry juice, as well as some herbal tea that tasted pretty rank, but it didn't seem to help her much.

We settled on stopping play immediately after sex for her to pee.  If this meant designing a quick-release suspension bondage, so be it.  And if I really wanted a scene to go on without interruption after sex, I made it anal sex.  (That was just fine with me, and once she got used to the idea and the act, was just fine with her too).

It did help that her doctor was so used to her UTIs that he would prescribe antibiotics with just a phone call.


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