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-=Are Amercians prudes or are Mexicans amoral sluts?=-

Amercians are prudes

60% (9)

Mexicans are amoral sluts

40% (6)

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-=Are Amercians prudes or are Mexicans amoral sluts?=- - 5/28/2012 4:26:36 AM

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When I read the words of Marques de Sade, I took it to heart. He said, morals only serve to define your geographical location. Consider the following example of morals and geographay:

Mexican federal law establishes the age of 12 as the minimum age of consent, while the age at which there are no restrictions for consensual sexual activities is 18 (sex with someone 12-18 is not illegal per se, but can still be open to prosecution under certain circumstances). Local state laws may override the federal law.

Mexico age of consent by state

state / minimum age / no restriction age

Aguascalientes 12 16
Baja California 14 18
Baja California Sur 12 18
Campeche 12 18
Chiapas 12 18
Chihuahua 14 18
Coahuila 12 16
Colima 14 18
Distrito Federal 12 18
Durango 14 18
Guanajuato 12 16
Guerrero 12 18
Hidalgo 12 18
Jalisco 12 18
México 15 18
Michoacán 12 16
Morelos 12 18
Nayarit Puberty 18
Nuevo León 14 18
Oaxaca 12 18
Puebla 12 18
Querétaro Puberty 17
Quintana Roo 12 18
San Luis Potosí 12 16
Sinaloa 12 18
Sonora Puberty 18
Tabasco 12 17
Tamaulipas 12 18
Tlaxcala Puberty
Veracruz 14 16
Yucatán 13 16
Zacatecas 13 18

I ask, are we prudes or are Mexicans amoral sluts?

read more: Ages of consent in North America

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RE: -=Are Amercians prudes or are Mexicans amoral sluts?=- - 5/28/2012 5:55:56 AM

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I need a "neither of the above" choice.

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RE: -=Are Amercians prudes or are Mexicans amoral sluts?=- - 5/28/2012 7:26:51 AM

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Where is the Canadian option?

(Check it out, yo.)

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RE: -=Are Amercians prudes or are Mexicans amoral sluts?=- - 5/28/2012 7:29:11 AM

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PostScript:

"Are not laws dangerous which inhibit the passions? Compare the centuries of anarchy with those of the strongest legalism in any country you like and you will see that it is only when the laws are silent that the greatest actions appear."

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RE: -=Are Amercians prudes or are Mexicans amoral sluts?=- - 5/28/2012 8:13:09 AM

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Having a daughter, I wouldn't mind if we moved the age of consent to 30.

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RE: -=Are Amercians prudes or are Mexicans amoral sluts?=- - 5/28/2012 9:19:34 AM

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12 won't mean the girl is able to choose. It means that in rural areas that's the minimum age you can marry a child off.

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RE: -=Are Amercians prudes or are Mexicans amoral sluts?=- - 5/28/2012 11:39:49 AM

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Why pick on Mexico?

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RE: -=Are Amercians prudes or are Mexicans amoral sluts?=- - 5/28/2012 12:46:20 PM

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I fail to see how in the hell protecting children, from crusty old fuckers, makes ANYone a prude.

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RE: -=Are Amercians prudes or are Mexicans amoral sluts?=- - 5/28/2012 9:01:32 PM

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Having a daughter, I wouldn't mind if we moved the age of consent to 30.

My daughter would be chained to a pole in the basement and I would be on the porch with a shotgun. When she finally did come of age . . . age 30 that is, I would let her leave the house to join a convent.

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RE: -=Are Amercians prudes or are Mexicans amoral sluts?=- - 5/28/2012 9:28:21 PM

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Having a daughter, I wouldn't mind if we moved the age of consent to 30.

My daughter would be chained to a pole in the basement and I would be on the porch with a shotgun. When she finally did come of age . . . age 30 that is, I would let her leave the house to join a convent.

Works for me!

I think my daughter knew what I was up to though and left before I could get the pole set up. lol

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RE: -=Are Amercians prudes or are Mexicans amoral sluts?=- - 5/28/2012 11:44:36 PM

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I fail to see how in the hell protecting children, from crusty old fuckers, makes ANYone a prude.

What she said ^

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RE: -=Are Amercians prudes or are Mexicans amoral sluts?=- - 5/29/2012 3:33:55 AM

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Having a daughter, I wouldn't mind if we moved the age of consent to 30.

My daughter would be chained to a pole in the basement and I would be on the porch with a shotgun. When she finally did come of age . . . age 30 that is, I would let her leave the house to join a convent.

They both sound reasonable to me.

I wouldn't say Mexico is full of amoral sluts, but it's different culturally. I imagine in a lot of the more rural areas where work is the family farm, it's probably easier to get married off young.

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RE: -=Are Amercians prudes or are Mexicans amoral sluts?=- - 5/29/2012 8:55:57 AM

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Not that it's as significant a factor nowadays, but this was interesting to look up.

This too.

It's never just one thing. If you lived in a time where you expected to die by age 40, getting married at 12 suddenly wouldn't seem so bad. It's all about perspective.

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RE: -=Are Amercians prudes or are Mexicans amoral sluts?=- - 5/29/2012 10:26:31 AM

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Absolutely, in a case of a life expectancy of 40, but Mexico's life expectancy of 76.2 and the US's of 78.2 does not account for the discrepancy.

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RE: -=Are Amercians prudes or are Mexicans amoral sluts?=- - 5/29/2012 10:36:24 AM

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(sex with someone 12-18 is not illegal per se, but can still be open to prosecution under certain circumstances)

What's deceit? "I'll still respect you in the morning?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America#Mexico

There is another crime in Article 262 for consented sex with adolescents aged 12 to 18, when consent is obtained through deceit. The penalty is 3 months to 4 years in prison. This crime, however, is prosecuted only through a complaint of the minor or his/her parents or legal guardians, as determined in Article 263.

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RE: -=Are Amercians prudes or are Mexicans amoral sluts?=- - 5/29/2012 11:05:46 AM

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Absolutely, in a case of a life expectancy of 40, but Mexico's life expectancy of 76.2 and the US's of 78.2 does not account for the discrepancy.

I know, the emphasis was on perspective. That's why I said it's not as relevant nowadays.

(I did read the stats before posting their links, yanno.)

I simply wanted to offer up that people need to stop and look at things from more than one angle before laying down a moral bitchslap. This is especially true when you consider that there is no such thing as a universal morality.

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RE: -=Are Amercians prudes or are Mexicans amoral sluts?=- - 5/29/2012 4:44:16 PM

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Oh, I gotcha :)

While looking up something for another thread, I found this:

http://www.crystalinks.com/yanomami.html

In Yanomami society, marriage ceremonies are almost non-existent and are not celebrated in any way. Polygamous marriages are common, meaning husbands can have many wives. A girl can be promised to a man at an age as young as five or six, however cannot officially be married off until after her first menstrual period.

After a Yanomami girl receives her first menstrual period, she is literally handed off by one of her parents to another man, usually a relative. Cross-cousin marriages, which are marriages between the girl and the son of a maternal uncle or paternal aunt, are the most common form of marriage. Most prefer to marry within that Yanomamo tribe, for fear of violent breakouts between different tribes. The female goes to live with her spouse, and must perform the chores and duties she previously did for her mother.

Violence and abuse between couples in Yanomami culture is very common, and if a woman feels she can no longer bear to live with her husband, she may flee to live with her brothers.

Polygamy is commonly practiced in Yanomami culture, and women are expected to accept this. The elder wife in a marriage usually has precedence over the others, and can act as a boss or a superior over the other wives. She usually no longer has sexual relations with her husband, however she can give the most unpleasant chores to the wife she chooses. The husband is not supposed to show favorites, due to jealousy between the wives.

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RE: -=Are Amercians prudes or are Mexicans amoral sluts?=- - 5/29/2012 5:21:00 PM

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Absolutely, in a case of a life expectancy of 40, but Mexico's life expectancy of 76.2 and the US's of 78.2 does not account for the discrepancy.

I know, the emphasis was on perspective. That's why I said it's not as relevant nowadays.

(I did read the stats before posting their links, yanno.)

I simply wanted to offer up that people need to stop and look at things from more than one angle before laying down a moral bitchslap. This is especially true when you consider that there is no such thing as a universal morality.

Hence my point about what De Sade said, morals are geographical.

Are morals like consent, cannibalism, rape etc. supposed to be core human values? If they can change so radically from one different geographical location to another . . . is their really a core human morality? I suspect not. I think morals are a result of your environment, not some manifestation of our universal humanity.

If you lived in a place and time where everyone in your environment conquered and enslaved (raped) enemies' women, killed and ate their men and the rule of thumb was if she bleeds she breeds . . . without modern social influences, it would probably seem quite moral and natural.

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RE: -=Are Amercians prudes or are Mexicans amoral sluts?=- - 5/29/2012 5:40:00 PM

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Peeps weren't digging your quote though, and your choice of using the word amoral didn't clarify things.

I just wanted to keep things on track, RS.

What did you think of the counterquote I offered?

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RE: -=Are Amercians prudes or are Mexicans amoral sluts?=- - 5/29/2012 8:20:54 PM

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I thought your short lifespan example added yet another good perspective.

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