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Has 50 Shades of Grey been good or bad for kink? - 5/31/2012 1:15:37 PM

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Has anyone else noticed the boom of new subs flocking to CM who have never been to a local event, have read a few stories on erotica and saw the odd porno flick? Can this be attributed to the popularity of this book or is it merely that summer evokes a flurry of activity?

Personally, I'm glad for the new people on the site.

However I do worry about the lack of discussion on safety while meeting people off site. Does anyone know of any resources on CM to help our kinksters stay safe?

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RE: Has 50 Shades of Grey been good or bad for kink? - 5/31/2012 2:06:41 PM

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Neither. It's just a book some people like to read. I don't think they think anything past the sex scenes and getting off to them. It's like a Harlequin romance book. You don't see people coming and running to bdsm because of a Harlequin romance book.

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RE: Has 50 Shades of Grey been good or bad for kink? - 5/31/2012 4:10:18 PM

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Schools almost out, if not out, in a lot of places. I attribute it to that.

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RE: Has 50 Shades of Grey been good or bad for kink? - 5/31/2012 4:15:15 PM

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I think its a wash. People are talking about the books, but if they take the book as gospel, then they will have a confused idea of what bdsm can encompass.
The books even got discussed in the OR i work in. The conscensus was that the book wasn't well written but for a bodice ripper, it was hot.

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RE: Has 50 Shades of Grey been good or bad for kink? - 5/31/2012 4:41:50 PM

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It will bring new people to D/s BDSM. Most will have unrealistic expectations, at least half will leave, some extremely bitter. But, in the end it will bring in new blood which is good.

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RE: Has 50 Shades of Grey been good or bad for kink? - 5/31/2012 5:11:39 PM

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The same thing happened a couple of decades ago when the Beauty books came out.

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RE: Has 50 Shades of Grey been good or bad for kink? - 5/31/2012 6:25:38 PM

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blah..I can't believe I actually read the whole series. bad bad bad writing.

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RE: Has 50 Shades of Grey been good or bad for kink? - 5/31/2012 6:55:41 PM

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Most have unrealistic expectations without having read "shades of grey"

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RE: Has 50 Shades of Grey been good or bad for kink? - 5/31/2012 7:10:00 PM

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We'll see some adult Twihearts who will seem to believe that Twilight fan fiction is real. You'll get some as OsideGirl has already pointed out:

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It will bring new people to D/s BDSM. Most will have unrealistic expectations, at least half will leave, some extremely bitter. But, in the end it will bring in new blood which is good.

Not much more to it than that.

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RE: Has 50 Shades of Grey been good or bad for kink? - 5/31/2012 7:36:34 PM

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quote:

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Most have unrealistic expectations without having read "shades of grey"

Hahahahaha... Ditto!!!

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RE: Has 50 Shades of Grey been good or bad for kink? - 5/31/2012 7:50:08 PM

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I never read the Beauty Books, I've not read 50 Shades of Grey. I really don't know what expectations anybody has as a result of it either. Perhaps it's a bit on par with the World of Gor (since it's fiction after-all).

Shall I dare suggest mental book burning parties for these people, when reality bitch smacks them upside the head? I don't know, but it's an entertaining thought.

I'm certain some people are already formulating or have formulated a stereotype image of what a True submissive or Dominant is based these works of erotic fiction. This may cause some issues or not.

However, people are mentally exploring and taking delight in "50 shades of Grey". It's even being talked about on the mainstream News/Entertainment shows.

Good or Bad? It's going to have an influence.

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RE: Has 50 Shades of Grey been good or bad for kink? - 6/1/2012 1:50:19 AM

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Book burnings kind of vanilla Nazi Conservative Christian...

Might I suggest turning the book in to a paper-mache dildo/butt plug, in a waterproof condom, instead?

To really give them time to think, get the wearer to make it themselves, from their own copy

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RE: Has 50 Shades of Grey been good or bad for kink? - 6/1/2012 5:18:09 AM

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Heres a thought...Remember the day each of us was new to bdsm??? Thank goodness i was welcomed nicely and without Judgement to the local community. Were you? and do others deserve to be? YES

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RE: Has 50 Shades of Grey been good or bad for kink? - 6/1/2012 6:04:46 AM

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People who are going to be responsible are always going to be responsible, just like people who aren't, usually never are.

Sorry, but I believe the people who are flocking to read this book have probably had some thoughts about it before, and yes I do realize how many of them have never, ever engaged in such things, but they have seen something or heard something and wondered.

The one thing this book is doing is making these people realize that maybe, just maybe, engaging in these types of activities with their partner is ok, and encouraging them to discuss it and try it.

By the way, I have never even read an excerpt of the book.

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RE: Has 50 Shades of Grey been good or bad for kink? - 6/1/2012 6:38:55 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: kiwisub12

I think its a wash. People are talking about the books, but if they take the book as gospel, then they will have a confused idea of what bdsm can encompass.
The books even got discussed in the OR i work in. The conscensus was that the book wasn't well written but for a bodice ripper, it was hot.

"Bodice ripper" romance novels have always edged towards these themes.
As our society has gotten more permissive the books have gotten more explicit.

The new genre of para normal romance with werewolves and vampires are giving "vanilla" women an outlet for these fantasies.

I think that just like the fantasies that some of us have but would never act on, it is pretty obvious that along the sexuality continuum there are plenty of vanilla women who are happy to have their kink lives exist inside their head.

My opinion about the books (which I have not read yet) would be neutral except for the fact that it is bringing conversation about what we do into the mainstream and perhaps this may help shift things away from the usual lurid tv story lines in which they feature BDSM practitioners as psychos, at least some of the time.

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RE: Has 50 Shades of Grey been good or bad for kink? - 6/1/2012 7:06:35 AM

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quote:

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The one thing this book is doing is making these people realize that maybe, just maybe, engaging in these types of activities with their partner is ok, and encouraging them to discuss it and try it.

Exactly. What actually gave me power to take that first step was reading The Loving Dominant. I realized that there must be a lot more people like me than I thought.

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RE: Has 50 Shades of Grey been good or bad for kink? - 6/1/2012 7:25:47 AM

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Reading poorly written, cheesy romance novels has NEVER affected my kink and I seriously doubt it ever will.

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RE: Has 50 Shades of Grey been good or bad for kink? - 6/1/2012 9:07:41 AM

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quote:

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Schools almost out, if not out, in a lot of places. I attribute it to that.

Yep, happens every year.

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RE: Has 50 Shades of Grey been good or bad for kink? - 6/1/2012 9:12:48 AM

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quote:

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blah..I can't believe I actually read the whole series. bad bad bad writing.

I couldn't get through the first Beauty Book. Bad, very bad.

As for "Shades," I haven't read it/them. Just not that interested, really. I do have a "vanilla" friend who read it and asked me if I think she should go find a dominant. I said no, because she doesn't know what she's doing yet, and needs to learn a whole lot more - about D/s and herself, before jumping into the water.

But yeah, I'm thinking a lot of us entered the "BDSM world" before we actually knew what we were doing. We learned, with skinned knees and other hurt parts. The Shades books will bring in no more, no less, than books and websites before them. We can shoo newbies away, or we can welcome and educate them.

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RE: Has 50 Shades of Grey been good or bad for kink? - 6/1/2012 10:24:45 AM

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Meh...

On one hand, anything that broadens people's acceptance of kink (even if it doesn't do much to improve their actual understanding of it!) can't be all bad...

Here's a site for anyone who has actually tried to read the book (which is absolute shit IMHO... on a par with John Lange's writing) ...

http://50shadesofsuck.tumblr.com/

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