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RE: "Progressive" and union excuses for the W... - 6/8/2012 8:45:18 AM

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It`s the fact that middle income earners are paying a higher tax rate than rich people, that gets normal average people upset.

Not how much someone earns.

You`re welcome in advance.

Blame that on the tax laws, and who is the party of lawyers?... Oh yeah, it's the Democrats who get all the Law firm big buck contributions... Why is that?

Oops, Law firms donated a whopping 76% to Democrats in the last Presidential Election.

The only CEO's paying less in taxes are the smart ones taking advantage of loop holes, or those living off capital gains... So instead of blaming the CEO's for taking advantage of loop holes provided by our law makers, how about you whine to the law makers instead?

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RE: "Progressive" and union excuses for the W... - 6/8/2012 8:47:59 AM

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When we kill the bush tax cuts......you`re welcome to send rich people your money on your own.

Just don`t ask the rest of us working stiffs to.

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RE: "Progressive" and union excuses for the W... - 6/8/2012 8:52:37 AM

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When we kill the bush tax cuts......you`re welcome to send rich people your money on your own.

Just don`t ask the rest of us working stiffs to.

Obama is the only socialist who wants to end the Bush tax cuts, and he has to win in November first...

But you, and all those Dem millionaires are always welcome to write checks to the IRS, if you really feel your tax rates are too low.

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RE: "Progressive" and union excuses for the W... - 6/8/2012 8:58:59 AM

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It`s the fact that middle income earners are paying a higher tax rate than rich people, that gets normal average people upset.

Not how much someone earns.

You`re welcome in advance.

Why not get upset with the people not only pay no income tax, but get money from the tax system, when they paid nothing in?

Charlie

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RE: "Progressive" and union excuses for the W... - 6/8/2012 9:51:22 AM

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While it might not encourage other governments to take them on, it certainly is an object lesson that the public can, and will support reduction in union control of budgets, and that fear of the union's political power isn't completely justified.

What exactly is it about unions that you disaprove of?

Well, regarding public-sector unions, I disaprove of union dues AND service charges being taken out of public-employees' salary even if the employee is anti-union. How's that for a starter? Reminds me of Microsoft's infamous "per-processor" OS licensing agreement with PC OEM's back in the mid-1970s...which required PC OEMs to pay an OS licensing royalty fee to Microsoft based not on only the number of PCs they sold with Microsoft's OS pre-installed but, rather, on the total number of PCs they sold (including those without any MS software at all).

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RE: "Progressive" and union excuses for the W... - 6/8/2012 10:54:05 AM

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To the Libs ranting about how much compensation CEOs' make. Why don't YOU apply to be a CEO? Don't you like money? Oh wait, it takes a lot of WORK to get the education and experience to be a CEO. Oh, is that what is holding you back?

Don't sit in a bar crying in your beer about how some CEO works years to get degrees and experience, and takes a chance on losing all his money on a business startup. (90% fail in 5 years) To give YOU a job so you can sit and whine about how "unfair" life is! Yeah, with all you think you know, YOU could be a CEO!

REALLY?? u ARE clueless arent u?

Most CEO's of companies and hospitals never spent a day doing what even his lowest Managers did.... and most are transfers from industries totally different than what they'er coming to... like banker CEO's being brought into heading up a hospital. The mark zukerburg's ( I know I killed his name somehow) and facebook's being at a company from day one of the company are few & far between....

its old money looking after old money bucky..... u dont apply to be a CEO, u get voted into it from 5 to 10 member (depending on corporate structure) board of directors ( usually of also old money) and/or maybe has to get voted in by the stockholders. (again, depending on corporate structure) and even then the compensation package WITH "golden parachute" was long decided allready - the stockholders usually only vote on the person, - not what the person gets paid.

....why dont u take some of ur own advice and pull ur head out of that (beer gl)ass of urs and see how corporations REALLY work. Try one of those buldings that says LIBRARY on it!! notice the difference in spelling from LIQUOR!

And to NOT be one of those 90% that dont make it as a startup of both a kink & a vanilla busness....I did.

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RE: "Progressive" and union excuses for the W... - 6/8/2012 11:24:01 AM

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1. Koch Brothers!

2. Out of State money.

3. Rigged electronic voting machines.

4. People voting against their own interests.

5. Recall elections never work out very well.

6. Outspent

Others?

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RE: "Progressive" and union excuses for the W... - 6/8/2012 11:28:45 AM

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It`s the fact that middle income earners are paying a higher tax rate than rich people, that gets normal average people upset.

Not how much someone earns.

You`re welcome in advance.

Why not get upset with the people not only pay no income tax, but get money from the tax system, when they paid nothing in?

Charlie

Because they cant do as much as the people who already HAS money, but takes even more... by telling the lie that if u give them more money in the form of tax cuts they'll create more jobs for the people u want to get upset at...and DONT for ALMOST 11 YEARS??.... if u arent upset about that then u simply arent paying attention... or like being a sucker for abuse. (no disrepect to the pain sluts here!)

so the people at the bottom have no chance of working themselves into being payers u (and most of them) want.... it makes no sense being upset at the people with the least means to affect things.... but not at the people who could and DO affect everything?

Kinda like being mad at a chicken for not being able to hunt like a fox.

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RE: "Progressive" and union excuses for the W... - 6/8/2012 11:32:44 AM

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While it might not encourage other governments to take them on, it certainly is an object lesson that the public can, and will support reduction in union control of budgets, and that fear of the union's political power isn't completely justified.

What exactly is it about unions that you disaprove of?

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Well, regarding public-sector unions, I disaprove of union dues AND service charges being taken out of public-employees' salary even if the employee is anti-union.

If you choose to work in a union shop how can you disaprove of paying dues. No one has forced you to work in a union shop be it public or private sector.

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How's that for a starter?

Pretty light weight...what else you got?

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Reminds me of Microsoft's infamous "per-processor" OS licensing agreement with PC OEM's back in the mid-1970s...which required PC OEMs to pay an OS licensing royalty fee to Microsoft based not on only the number of PCs they sold with Microsoft's OS pre-installed but, rather, on the total number of PCs they sold (including those without any MS software at all).

This is a false analogy. M/s was making them pay for something that they did not get. If you do not like the protections that a union provides (at a fee) then feel free to vote with your feet.

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RE: "Progressive" and union excuses for the W... - 6/8/2012 11:38:19 AM

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Why not get upset with the people not only pay no income tax, but get money from the tax system, when they paid nothing in?

Why does that bother you?
It does not bother me.

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RE: "Progressive" and union excuses for the W... - 6/9/2012 9:25:33 PM

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Speaking of Wisconsin...

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RE: "Progressive" and union excuses for the W... - 6/9/2012 10:30:04 PM

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My computer was down for a day or so but this is for Owner.. The dems did get back one seat in the Senate after 125 million dollars was spent by both sides, but the problem is, they are not in session. It means nothing. The Republicans will gain control again in November.. Mark my words...

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RE: "Progressive" and union excuses for the W... - 6/10/2012 10:18:20 AM

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Here's an interesting article:

It’s Working in Walker’s Wisconsin
The governor’s controversial labor reforms are already saving taxpayers millions.

Source: City Journal, Vol. 22, No. 1

K.

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RE: "Progressive" and union excuses for the W... - 6/17/2012 3:24:24 PM

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Here's an interesting article:

It’s Working in Walker’s Wisconsin
The governor’s controversial labor reforms are already saving taxpayers millions.

Source: City Journal, Vol. 22, No. 1

K.

GEE...wouldnt u know it..... the writer is from a conservative think tank -
the "Wisconsin Policy Research Institute" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_Policy_Research_Institute

He wouldnt quite possbly LIKE walker now would they? ALOT maybe hmmm? ya think?

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RE: "Progressive" and union excuses for the W... - 6/17/2012 4:10:37 PM

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Here's an interesting article:

It’s Working in Walker’s Wisconsin
The governor’s controversial labor reforms are already saving taxpayers millions.

Source: City Journal, Vol. 22, No. 1

K.

GEE...wouldnt u know it..... the writer is from a conservative think tank -
the "Wisconsin Policy Research Institute" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_Policy_Research_Institute

He wouldnt quite possbly LIKE walker now would they? ALOT maybe hmmm? ya think?

Can you disprove the numbers? Why do progressives ALWAYS attack the messenger wen they don't like the message... If you got proof that the writer is lying about the results of his study, show it, instead of whining about the writer.

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RE: "Progressive" and union excuses for the W... - 6/26/2012 3:36:06 AM

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Here's an interesting article:

It’s Working in Walker’s Wisconsin
The governor’s controversial labor reforms are already saving taxpayers millions.

Source: City Journal, Vol. 22, No. 1

K.

GEE...wouldnt u know it..... the writer is from a conservative think tank -
the "Wisconsin Policy Research Institute" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin_Policy_Research_Institute

He wouldnt quite possbly LIKE walker now would they? ALOT maybe hmmm? ya think?

Can you disprove the numbers? Why do progressives ALWAYS attack the messenger wen they don't like the message... If you got proof that the writer is lying about the results of his study, show it, instead of whining about the writer.

the question is WHICH taxpayers are saving money?

http://host.madison.com/ct/business/biz_beat/biz-beat-report-walker-tax-cuts-for-wealthy-will-cost/article_aa11ef14-a355-11e1-a373-001a4bcf887a.html

http://bobcesca.com/blog-archives/2011/12/governor-scott-walker-raises-taxes.html

http://www.politiscoop.com/us-politics/wisconsin-politics/1308-scott-walker-s-job-losing-shell-game-raises-taxes-on-seniors-working-families.html

I await ur dismissal of these facts as "liberal media" and proof these facts are wrong....

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RE: "Progressive" and union excuses for the W... - 6/26/2012 5:52:22 AM

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At first glance that could be Pol Pot, Mao or Stalin

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Speaking of Wisconsin...

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RE: "Progressive" and union excuses for the W... - 6/26/2012 5:54:04 AM

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Look who's just learned about irony and how it works.

Welcome to literacy.

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RE: "Progressive" and union excuses for the W... - 6/26/2012 5:59:25 AM

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Geez, it sort of looks like Scott Walker to me, so I didn't catch the irony.

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RE: "Progressive" and union excuses for the W... - 6/26/2012 8:14:24 AM

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Reminds me of Microsoft's infamous "per-processor" OS licensing agreement with PC OEM's back in the mid-1970s...which required PC OEMs to pay an OS licensing royalty fee to Microsoft based not on only the number of PCs they sold with Microsoft's OS pre-installed but, rather, on the total number of PCs they sold (including those without any MS software at all).

What, they were selling a PC that wasn't invented until the early '80s back in the mid '70s?
(None Microsoft PC clones didn't come until a few years later still, in fact.)
I know you're a bit clueless, effendi, but you don't have to try so hard to flaunt it. Love the way your example of teh eeevil of unions is a demonstration of unregulated capitalism in it's purest form as well.

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