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RE: Osteoarthritis - 6/11/2006 9:55:12 AM   
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Thank you for your answer .

It is good for me to have feedback from someone that has good results. 

Twice a week does not sound all that bad, given the possibility of some really good days :)  

My best to you both

Reticence

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RE: Osteoarthritis - 6/11/2006 10:03:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: reticence

Thank you for your answer .

It is good for me to have feedback from someone that has good results. 

Twice a week does not sound all that bad, given the possibility of some really good days :)  

My best to you both

Reticence


While making the reminder that "mileage may vary" for Libby it's been more than a few good days.  The stuff has changed her life.  Before using it she was in constant pain and it had a marked effect on her usual good nature and humor.  Now she is much more herself and rarely mentions more than the occasional twinge. 

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RE: Osteoarthritis - 6/11/2006 10:11:34 AM   
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(I need to take some time to learn to use the quote capability on this site. )

I truly am happy for Libby, I know how debilitating the disease can be.  Even injecting it once a week, i did have improvement, not "change my life" improvement, but enough to know we are on the right track.  I was initially worried about the side effects, but my doctor diligently pointed out the side effects of the prednisone and other drugs.  I guess it boils down to weighing the risks/benefits and assigning priorities.  Right now my priorities are with quality of life.

I wish Libby continued success and appreciate your taking the time for my questions.

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RE: Osteoarthritis - 6/11/2006 10:56:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: reticence

(I need to take some time to learn to use the quote capability on this site. )

I truly am happy for Libby, I know how debilitating the disease can be.  Even injecting it once a week, i did have improvement, not "change my life" improvement, but enough to know we are on the right track.  I was initially worried about the side effects, but my doctor diligently pointed out the side effects of the prednisone and other drugs.  I guess it boils down to weighing the risks/benefits and assigning priorities.  Right now my priorities are with quality of life.

I wish Libby continued success and appreciate your taking the time for my questions.

Reticence  


Thank you.

As for using the quote function, just select "quote" rather than "reply."  You can also edited with the bracketed quote and /quote commands to shorten the quote.  Begin your answer after the bracketed /quote command

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RE: Osteoarthritis - 6/11/2006 5:50:54 PM   
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I was just curious if anyone had osteoarthritis and how they deal with it. I was just diagnosed yesterday and its mainly in my spine. I'm taking therapy, exercises and hot/warm compresses as a starting treatment.
Im worried about how this may effect my BDSM fun as I am the Dominant. Are there any precautions I should take?

~Lashra


Master has osteoarthritis in His spine and neck, in fact He says He hurts from the top of His head to His feet some days!

Pain meds are not an option as He's taken so many they upset His tummy. We have found Emu Fire Arthritis Relief balm works well in easing His pain. It's a mixture of various herbs and oils in an emu oil base.

http://www.emufire.com.au/html/E_arthritis.htm

We have had to adapt to let me do much of the work when His back is paining Him. Certain positions just don't work I am usually on top or we lie on our sides ("spooning"). Doggy works if I kneel on the bed and He stands on the floor. It's just a matter of finding out what works with the least amount of pain for you (not necessarily for the sub )

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RE: Osteoarthritis - 6/11/2006 9:37:10 PM   
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A friend of mine who is a slave has had it since she was very young. She too recommends the glucosamine, flax seed and licorice root. So I'm off to the health food store to check those out today and give them a try. I've been taking lots of Aleve which works for the pain, but Id rather not have to take that every day if something else could help.

Thanks for the replies!

~Lashra


Lashra:
Just a word of caution. If you have high blood pressure you should not take Licorice root. Also do not take more than the reccomended dosage. it can deplete your Potassium levels in high doses.
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RE: Osteoarthritis - 6/11/2006 9:47:40 PM   
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Ohh thanks for the advice, I do have high blood pressure and diabetes  I'm a mess. But I'll fix me as best I can.

Thanks!
~Lashra

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RE: Osteoarthritis - 6/11/2006 10:07:53 PM   
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No Problem. Licorice root increases the production of aldosterone, which increases blood pressure.

If I could suggest somethign else? You may want to try White Willow Bark. It is a natural anti inflammatory and is used  to treat arthritis. if it works for you, you can taper your Alleve down and just use the white willow. And the nice thing about White Willow is it has few contraindications, if any.

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RE: Osteoarthritis - 6/11/2006 10:50:12 PM   
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I'm not going to echo previous posts, but I do want people reading this thread to note the serious differences between osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis when comparing treatments. 

That said:   We all have differing expertise on this Board along side of our interest in WIIWD, and one area I have a lot of knowledge in is health insurance and the health payment system in the USA (if you are Canadian, just shake your head and marvel at the stupidity of the health care system of your southern neighbor).  Here is a brief primer on getting health care if you are uninsured, or underinsured, and have a serious condition.

If you are fortunate enough to live near a major medical center, you should know that in the case of arthritis (both types) there are hundreds of clinical trials of new drugs and similar studies being done around the country.  You should see if you qualify to enter one of these programs.  Unfortunately, people with multiple conditions rarely qualify for these studies (the OP mentioned she had diabetes as well as the recent osteo. diagnosis).  Drugs like Embrel (which as JWarren has noted has tremendous potential) are available for free in these programs.  You also get comprehensive health care.

If you cannot get in a clinical trial, consider exploring your state's "safety net" program.  All states have some sort of "last resort" insurance for persons with chronic conditions who are uninsured and meet certain minimum financial conditions.  Often this program will be called "CHIP" (for comprehensive health insurance program).  Your state and milage will vary.  And these programs often cover ONLY catastrophic medical illness, not wellness or prevention (don't get me started on the foolishness of where we put our health care dollars...at least not here in this post!)  CHIP programs also cover some meds.

In response to the clear inequities in our system that allow the drug manufacturers to make 100s of millions of dollars on American sales of their products with near monopoly power, the drug companies have started programs to pay for meds for people on long term medication.  Are they trying to buy off Congress and an angry population? SURE...but use it to your advantage.  See if you qualify.  "PPA is the best known of these programs.  A simple web search of "assistance with prescription medication" will turn up more.  https://www.pparx.org/Intro.php 

Finally, while our payment system for people without insurance sucks, in fact our medicine is probably the best in the world.  If you have serious illnesses and no insurance (and no money), consider checking out the free clinics provided by charity care institutions and public hospitals.  Yes, the care is slow, the system is overburdened and sometimes you run into rude and/or stupid people who are supposed to assist you but don't.  But in my experience the experise of the physicians is unsurpassed.  Bite that bullet and swallow your pride and head for a public/charity hospital if you must.

Good luck.

E.

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RE: Osteoarthritis - 6/11/2006 10:53:36 PM   
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I believe the active ingredient in willow bark is salysilic acid, which is essentially asprin.  It works in many ways, but (1) asprin is a powerful drug with many complications, and if you are asprin sensitive you will be willow sensitive too and (2) asprin is very cheap, "herbal" willow bark can be pricey.  If in fact what is working is the asprin-like drug, why pay for the package?

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"What's for breakfast? What do you say, Piglet?"
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RE: Osteoarthritis - 6/12/2006 5:53:53 AM   
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The difference is that White Willow, unlike aspirin contains tanins which help digestion. Aspirin can be very rough on the stomach and lead to bleeding.  The chances of gastric disturbances from aspirin use increases with long term regular usage. Making White Willow a safer choice, IMO.

White Willow is a derivitive of salicum. The inner bark contains tannins, flavonoids, phenolic glycosides, and anti-inflammatory and fever-reducing salicylates.

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