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AAkasha -> Young crow out of nest; very annoying crow parentals (6/18/2012 8:44:46 AM)


Two adult crows in the backyard have been making non stop racket and I realized that a young crow is out of the nest yesterday. I did some googling, wrapped it in a towel, fed it some dog food and water, and tried placing it back up high in the closest place back where the original nest might be. The next day there's still more squawking and the young crow is now stranded on top of a shed between houses. It's got all of its feathers, can hop and fly short distances, just can't fly away yet.

Can a bird or crow expert let me know if I should try to recapture it and take it to wildlife rescue, or just leave it? There are a lot of neighborhood outdoor cats that might make a meal of it - or, do adult crows do a pretty good job of fending them off? The squawking is VERY loud and does wake us up - and I am sure the neighbors - at 5am. The last two days I am willing to concede in the name of nature...but it will get old.

That leads to the next question -how many days could this go on? How long before the bird either flies or the adult birds give up?

Akasha



MistressDarkArt -> RE: Young crow out of nest; very annoying crow parentals (6/18/2012 4:52:09 PM)

I don't know the answer, Akasha. But your local veterinarian or Animal Services department will, so I'd give them a call.



Karmastic -> RE: Young crow out of nest; very annoying crow parentals (6/18/2012 5:14:31 PM)

i don't know the best answer either, but by default, i would leave it alone unless it was injured or in great distress, and let nature take it's course. other animals need to be fed, and the stronger ones survive and will thrive, and balance will continue.

if you still feel you need to intervene, then yes, please do some internet research. i can tell you that once you get your smell on the baby bird, the parents will reject it. careful with that clean unscented towel, and even wear gloves.



kalikshama -> RE: Young crow out of nest; very annoying crow parentals (6/18/2012 5:15:54 PM)

Good for you for attempting the rescue!

Most years at Mom's in June the 5 AM crowing happened every day. I never connected it with endangered hatchlings. Now I use these:

[image]http://www.allearplugs.com/images/product/main/Macks-ear-seals-1-pair1.jpg[/image]



punisher440 -> RE: Young crow out of nest; very annoying crow parentals (6/18/2012 5:29:25 PM)

Do not worry about handling the baby crow,the parents will NOT reject it,that is bull.I used to raise birds of prey and regulaly handled the young with no problem,except watching out for mom and dad.Even Snopes agrees.

http://www.snopes.com/critters/wild/babybird.asp

http://10000birds.com/handling-birds-yea-or-nay.htm



Karmastic -> RE: Young crow out of nest; very annoying crow parentals (6/18/2012 5:47:46 PM)

thank you for correcting my ignorance and educating us all :)

your first link agrees with me, leave it alone...

"Possibly this widespread caution against handling young birds springs from a desire to protect them from the many well-intentioned souls who, upon discovering fledglings on the ground, immediately think to cart them away to be cared for. Rather than attempting to impress upon these folks the real reason for leaving well enough alone (that a normal part of most fledglings' lives is a few days on the ground
before they fully master their flying skills)..."



Lockit -> RE: Young crow out of nest; very annoying crow parentals (6/18/2012 5:59:45 PM)

Dear god Karmastic... His link, first question addressed what he said in his post about touching a baby bird and the parents not rejecting it. You totally ignored that and went on your other paragraph which he didn't say anything about. Ignore the real thing brought up which you were wrong about and move on to the part you are correct in, which he didn't say anything about!

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Karmastic -> RE: Young crow out of nest; very annoying crow parentals (6/18/2012 6:10:12 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

Dear god Karmastic... His link, first question addressed what he said in his post about touching a baby bird and the parents not rejecting it. You totally ignored that and went on your other paragraph which he didn't say anything about. Ignore the real thing brought up which you were wrong about and move on to the part you are correct in, which he didn't say anything about!

[:D][:D][:D][:D]


what part of these words did you not understand?

quote:

Karmastic
thank you for correcting my ignorance and educating us all :)


i made the words rly big, to get through your batshit filter.

ps - just to add some actual reality here - i agreed that he corrected me, and moved on to another point also included in his link. that's the way discussion boards go, dear. only batshit people try hijack threads, and dwell on things like that [&:]



Lockit -> RE: Young crow out of nest; very annoying crow parentals (6/18/2012 6:18:28 PM)

You're right, I totally missed your first sentence. That will teach me to use a smaller screen while working, working two feet from a monitor and no glasses.

My apologies on that Karmastic.



littlewonder -> RE: Young crow out of nest; very annoying crow parentals (6/18/2012 6:25:49 PM)

Is there a full moon tonight or something with all the drama on the forums today?



punisher440 -> RE: Young crow out of nest; very annoying crow parentals (6/18/2012 6:32:06 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Karmastic

thank you for correcting my ignorance and educating us all :)

your first link agrees with me, leave it alone...

"Possibly this widespread caution against handling young birds springs from a desire to protect them from the many well-intentioned souls who, upon discovering fledglings on the ground, immediately think to cart them away to be cared for. Rather than attempting to impress upon these folks the real reason for leaving well enough alone (that a normal part of most fledglings' lives is a few days on the ground
before they fully master their flying skills)..."

Did I miss seeing something that I typed? All I mentioned was your faulty information on handling the baby crow.



Karmastic -> RE: Young crow out of nest; very annoying crow parentals (6/18/2012 6:40:47 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lockit

You're right, I totally missed your first sentence. That will teach me to use a smaller screen while working, working two feet from a monitor and no glasses.

My apologies on that Karmastic.

accepted and thanks, moving on...



Karmastic -> RE: Young crow out of nest; very annoying crow parentals (6/18/2012 6:41:47 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: punisher440


quote:

ORIGINAL: Karmastic

thank you for correcting my ignorance and educating us all :)

your first link agrees with me, leave it alone...

"Possibly this widespread caution against handling young birds springs from a desire to protect them from the many well-intentioned souls who, upon discovering fledglings on the ground, immediately think to cart them away to be cared for. Rather than attempting to impress upon these folks the real reason for leaving well enough alone (that a normal part of most fledglings' lives is a few days on the ground
before they fully master their flying skills)..."

Did I miss seeing something that I typed? All I mentioned was your faulty information on handling the baby crow.

lol, i dunno. just some drama over a misunderstanding.



Duskypearls -> RE: Young crow out of nest; very annoying crow parentals (6/18/2012 8:17:27 PM)

Providing it were not injured, if it were me, I'd probably leave it be for a day or two. Sometimes hunger is the best motivator to help young ones move off on their own. If it still persisted I might provide it with appropriate food for a day or two. It just might need a little longer to fledge than others.



TheHeretic -> RE: Young crow out of nest; very annoying crow parentals (6/18/2012 8:35:03 PM)

This has happened in our backyard three times now. I grab the big plastic leaf rake, open the gate, and gently shoo the juvenile out of the enclosed area. He may not be ready to fly just yet, but crows hop very well, and the birds can take their damn family-drama racket, and droppings, somewhere else.

I did once have a lost parakeet land at my feet, then hop on my finger, and I connected him with an excellent home.




AAkasha -> RE: Young crow out of nest; very annoying crow parentals (6/20/2012 9:18:10 AM)


Thanks everyone for the input. Eventually the situation was resolved as the racket went down. Not sure if the bird was able to fly eventually or was eaten. When walking the dogs I saw what I think were the same two adult crows a few houses down squawking, so maybe the young crow made it a few houses down and they were watching it there.

Akasha



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