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can someone tell me what the F*** is SAT® Reasoning Test. - 7/3/2012 1:33:32 PM   
ashjor911


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I have read an ad for the (American University in Dubai) which are doing some Scholarship for Arab Students.
& i do not know why they ask if any student have done the (SAT® Reasoning Test) for a Scholarship in :
- Digital Production and Storytelling (Radio/ TV/ Cinema)
- Journalism.
if its a math test... then i am going to suck.... big time.

On the other hand... how do you think i would score in (TOEFL®)...in general?

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RE: can someone tell me what the F*** is SAT® Reasonin... - 7/3/2012 1:38:14 PM   
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While you're at it, check into SAT preparation tools.

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RE: can someone tell me what the F*** is SAT® Reasonin... - 7/3/2012 2:11:00 PM   
ashjor911


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thanks for
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While you're at it, check into SAT preparation tools.



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RE: can someone tell me what the F*** is SAT® Reasonin... - 7/3/2012 2:18:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		last time i responded to your request for help, i spent some time finding and sending you private links to introduce you to my old friends. rather than thank me, you lectured me on Jews, Zionism, and so on. The word "thanks" didn't appear anywhere in the emails.

good luck in your search.

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RE: can someone tell me what the F*** is SAT® Reasonin... - 7/3/2012 2:48:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		"The SAT Reasoning Test is a long examination (three hours and forty-five minutes) and has three main divisions:

Math,
Reading and
Writing.

There are 10 sections in all – three for each division, and one ‘equating’ section. The equating section is used to assess questions for use in future tests. (It can be in any of the three areas and does not count toward the score).

Apart from a short essay and ten out of the 54 math questions, the questions are all five-answer multiple-choice. Each of the divisions has a maximum score of 800, giving a maximum overall score of 2400. "


First thing that came up on my google

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RE: can someone tell me what the F*** is SAT® Reasonin... - 7/3/2012 3:17:31 PM   
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Ash, your spoken English is fine, written, I think you would have a hard time with the test. Though it has been more than 30 years since I took anything like that.

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RE: can someone tell me what the F*** is SAT® Reasonin... - 7/3/2012 3:29:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ask American University in Dubai if they offer SAT prep courses or can recommend a place that does. I have a friend who is only 25 but is taking a prep course because she has to retake her SATs. She'd just finished tutoring her niece for the SATs, so if she felt the need to prepare, I can't recommend it more strongly for you.

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RE: can someone tell me what the F*** is SAT® Reasonin... - 7/3/2012 8:54:27 PM   
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I'll agree that an SAT preparation course is invaluable, but while you're getting ready to take one, you can start sharpening your testing skills and get used to answering questions. A free way to do this is to sign up for the College Board's "SAT Question of the Day". Each day they send you an email with a question from the English or Math categories, you answer the question (all responses - right or wrong - are explained) and the website keeps track of your performance.

If you don't want to take a prep course, there are plenty of well-reviewed self-study guidebooks available, most with multiple past tests for practice.

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RE: can someone tell me what the F*** is SAT® Reasonin... - 7/3/2012 10:10:00 PM   
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RE: can someone tell me what the F*** is SAT® Reasonin... - 7/4/2012 6:53:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		From your OP I thought SAT scores were necessary to get the scholarship?

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RE: can someone tell me what the F*** is SAT® Reasonin... - 7/4/2012 7:55:03 AM   
ashjor911


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Status: offline 		it is... necessary to get the scholarship then had the SAT..
as you know (in ME) is important to get accepted ... then they would give ya an US test... which was invented to the US students..

coz.. we dont have anywhere to have the sat.. execpet the (american univercity)

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RE: can someone tell me what the F*** is SAT® Reasonin... - 7/4/2012 10:00:01 AM   
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I can't imagine that spelling would account for more than essential comprehension and grammar on such a test, especially if TOEFL-factored scoring of non-native speakers, especially in today's world. Your comprehension is very good for a non-native speaker, I can tell you that. But with your lack of attention to details as evidenced by your misspelling of 'univercity' instead of university, I might see where you need to direct your attention, but it's not necessarily to spelling, per se.

Look at the important things, and use the tools given by others in this thread to see where the importance lies with the test givers. Lie, cheat, steal, etc. to figure out how to get the help tools and advance information you need, regarding the advice already given here. Don't forget real libraries; you never know what might have been overlooked in whatever censorship or expungement in your country vs. what they currently pay so much attention to regarding blocking info on the internet.


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RE: can someone tell me what the F*** is SAT® Reasonin... - 7/4/2012 10:01:23 AM   
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I can't imagine that spelling would account for more than essential comprehension and grammar on such a test, especially if TOEFL-factored scoring of non-native speakers, especially in today's world. Your comprehension is very good for a non-native speaker, I can tell you that. However, with your lack of attention to important details as evidenced by your misspelling of 'univercity' instead of university, I might see where you need to direct your attention, but it's not necessarily to spelling, per se. I can see where you don't like math, but attention to detail counts across the board at the university, no escaping that.

I got a mark on a paper in English class for starting a sentence with "There are" (once, in a three page paper), because for whatever reason the English teachers have a problem with that. They are also 'coma-phobic'; apparently, their prohibition against run-on sentences in this case being counterbalanced by such coma-phobic encouragement of run-on thought/idea within a sentence. These same professors would go berserk if they ever took a German class, whence the language originally came, in seeing so many German sentences starting with "Es gibt," essentially the same thing as "There are." I had learned even prior to such experience that their institutional misunderstanding matters more than your rational understanding.

Look at the important things, and use the tools given by others in this thread to see where the importance lies with the test givers. Lie, cheat, steal, etc. to figure out how to get the help tools and advance information you need, regarding the advice already given here. Don't forget real libraries; you never know what might have been overlooked in whatever censorship or expungement in your country vs. what they currently pay so much attention to regarding blocking info on the internet.





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RE: can someone tell me what the F*** is SAT® Reasonin... - 7/4/2012 10:32:05 AM   
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quote:

I got a mark on a paper in English class for starting a sentence with "There are" (once, in a three page paper), because for whatever reason the English teachers have a problem with that.


I don't like the passive voice because it makes for boring writing. Here's more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impersonal_passive_voice

The impersonal passive voice is a verb voice that decreases the valency of an intransitive verb (which has valency one) to zero.

The impersonal passive deletes the subject of an intransitive verb. In place of the verb's subject, the construction instead may include a syntactic placeholder, also called a dummy. This placeholder has neither thematic nor referential content. (A similar example is the word "there" in the English phrase "There are three books.")

...German has an impersonal passive voice, as shown in the examples below:

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RE: can someone tell me what the F*** is SAT® Reasonin... - 7/4/2012 10:37:50 AM   
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The passive voice can be (and is, in fact) indicated by innumerably more devices than simply beginning a sentence with "There are," for those heretofore unaware. That wasn't the point. The paper in question was in fact specified to be in the passive voice. English teachers are just plain stupid, sorry, no escaping it. (PS: Take a German class and see if you still think that the passive voice is so 'boring'; the majority of most poetry, any language, is in the third person, while we're at it).

Everyday conversation, simple reporting/relating of events, etc., are not always for purpose of entertainment, much as modern 'journalism' and unaware English professors wish it to be otherwise.

If somebody is automatically bored by the use of "There are" at the beginning of a single sentence in a long and well-thought paper<, that is not the audience a thoughtful person would be seeking in the first place. Nor is it what professors and others seeking logical thought and relevant information are asking of me.

To cut it short: screw the English professors who in fact have no proper understanding of the language other than it was handed to them a few years ago:
the econ teachers and the German teachers have no complaint what was handed in from this corner. (Though I still got whacked, severely sometimes, when I was wrong, but in that regard only on valid points).

I speak to the more more logical people, and have no apologies to make for it.

One could start a sentence with "It could be surmised," "One could say," "The proposal is," or even, "There might be the assumption that," or any of fifty million other variants of "There are," but English professors being the best robots in academia, the latter example is the only one marked wrong, not because they understand why it might be wrong (elsewise 50 million other things should be marked wrong in logical accordance), but because that's all they ever understood in their whole academic process.

Kind of scary, actually.
















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RE: can someone tell me what the F*** is SAT® Reasonin... - 7/4/2012 11:42:44 AM   
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RE: can someone tell me what the F*** is SAT® Reasonin... - 7/4/2012 11:44:23 AM   
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Sorry for the double post earlier, Ashjor.

Talk about lack of attention to details!

Someone just in this thread immediately above attempted to direct me to one of those "writer" sites.

If you want to actually understand the English language, avoid modern day 'writers,' or at least current American university bizarre acceptance of logically incomprehensible thought, even if such be academically acceptable in English departments, at all costs.

Take German first. That forces you to pay attention to details, which the English language takes near-French pride in ignoring.




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