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PrincessJessieJ -> RE: Fin dommes (7/14/2012 10:39:00 PM)
That's even without touching on the financial bit. And quite frankly, I'm sure any Femdomme worth the title is more than capable of standing up and saying something for herself, if she should so choose. You're being more than a bit arrogant, here, IMO.

JanahX -> RE: Fin dommes (7/14/2012 10:39:21 PM)
FUCK NOT THIS AGAIN. I think that threads like this should be STOMPED out = put that in your pipe and smoke it OP - quote: Sorry. Not willing to let it die. I don't care how much people are sick of it, it IS sickly, and CM should at least TRY to stomp it out. It is my position that they have a moral responsibility to do so. They can either step up to the plate or be pussies. Let's see what they do.

PrincessJessieJ -> RE: Fin dommes (7/14/2012 10:40:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dink22 quote: ORIGINAL: PrincessJessieJ quote: ORIGINAL: dink22 I'm right. Most of you know I'm right. I'm looking out for, and being a sort of activist for, het female dominants/submissive males. We are probably the coolest people in American society, but our sexuality is less understood than the gay community. We're sort of like the heterosexual equivalent of being gay. I am contemptuous of efforts to exploit our eccentric sexuality for profit. I see people who do this as revolting scum. Sorry to upset your sensibilities. Uhm, excuse you? Coming from a lesbian-- Fuck you. I'm out of patience. So from what you've said here and before, you seem to think het femmedommes are the only valid femmedommes. I'm thinking this has something to do with your particular fantasies. Because I'm willing to bet there are heterosexual femdommes out there who have female subs/slaves, to, just like there are possibly heterosexual dom men who have male subs/slaves. not everything boils down to sex or sexual attraction. But you're a lesbian. Sorry, you're in a different universe. But I wish you well. So? I still have male subs. I still serve their needs as much as they serve mine. How does my sexual orientation make my opinion invalid, exactly?

PrincessJessieJ -> RE: Fin dommes (7/14/2012 10:41:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: JanahX FUCK NOT THIS AGAIN. I think that threads like this should be STOMPED out = put that in your pipe and smoke it OP - quote: Sorry. Not willing to let it die. I don't care how much people are sick of it, it IS sickly, and CM should at least TRY to stomp it out. It is my position that they have a moral responsibility to do so. They can either step up to the plate or be pussies. Let's see what they do. insert slowclap.jpg here

CRYPTICLXVI -> RE: Fin dommes (7/14/2012 10:45:21 PM)
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AAkasha -> RE: Fin dommes (7/14/2012 10:46:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PrincessJessieJ Truth. It can also involve 'send me greendot refill cards, piggy!' J/K. It depends on the woman, but there's also taking their bills, figuring out how much they spend per month total and giving them an allowance to live on- deciding what YOU think they do and don't need, etcetera, etcetera, and so on. In todays word, you need money to get just about everything-- keep a roof over your head, food on your plate, clothes on your back, etc. Power is money. Money is power. The more money, the more power. When someone has taken your money from you, they've taken your power, your autonomy. They've taken the one thing, the one key to getting everything you need to survive in today's world on your own. For a submissive man into findomme, it's a complete surrender to his Dom/me, allowing them to take over his (Or her, i've not forgotten about the ladies) completely in such a way that it can be damn near inescapable. Everything you have, you have because your master/mistress has allowed, from your internet connection to the shoes on your feet. It's also responsibility for the dom/me. You still have to be sure your sub has everything they need, of course, once you've gotten to that point. Mind you, I'm not touching on the topic of financial ruination here- thats a whole nother bag of jumpin' beans entirely. I am not at all talking about "fake" profile", that could be set up by ANY gender for the purpose of "scamming" any PERSON out of funds on this site or ANY site (this is no different from a scam preying on elderly -- and this site does have flashing warning lights everywhere). But yes, there are a lot of copycats popping up - because the demand is high. No demand = no scam. So dink, work on educating your submissive brethren to stop arbitrarily sending money to total strangers. Then there are those submissive men who have a bonafide fetish for being financially dominated or exploited. Yes, they do exist. Yes, they respond favorably, in the right conditions, to being called all those names and being "forced" to be treated like a human wallet or whatever. I dabbled pretty regularly in phone domination in my 20s and experienced a little of everything and I found those men into "financial domination" to be THE MOST high maintenance of fetishists, and I do not wish them upon any femdom! Those "pay princesses" who actually have honed their craft earn every dollar they "milk" if they are truly engaging in consensual power exchange, because these men have a VERY specific fetish that has to be catered to. They are a very, very needy bunch. This is not about them just looking for a random pretty photo to send $50 to; they expect direction, attention, commands, humiliation that goes well above the hourly rate that would be associated with that $50 in most professions, my guess. For those men that send $50 blindly to a photo and hope for the best, they are just someone who was 'scammed' and were not "looking for financial domination" because trust me, subs who seek out financial domination know exactly what they are looking for and do not go into it ill informed. These sub men are shrewd and smart shoppers for their fetish. Those pay princesses who have honed their craft know how to exploit (I use that word favorably in a consensual manner!) these men in just the precise way they want to be used, just how a crafted dominatrix knows how to hurt without harming. These financial femdoms are also the most often exploited themselves based on how many "pay piggies" get their rocks off simply by dangling the size of their wallet and asking their potential femdom partner "tell me what kinds of tasks I will have, " etc., or asking for some context, when that's as far as they intend it to go. Every "gift" a true "pay pig" type sub sends has strings attached, much different than a gift given from the heart. Sure, a sub into financial domination or exploitation will enjoy sending something to his femdom "princess," but trust me, it's probably not a new blender she desperately needs. It's probably lingerie, high heels, or something he will get off on purchasing; after all, it must fit into his fantasies in some sense, because he's a paying customer, and this is not a gift of the heart. A business woman who is also a femdom realizes in time that it's easier sometimes to do a 30 minute fantasy phone call for money and buy her own blender, rather than spend several hours of developing a fantasy scenario for a very high maintenance "shopper" submissive client who wants to send her $25 of lingerie from the clearance bin at Sears. I applaud the patience and discretion that honest financial femdoms have. As for the "scammers" who just say "send me $20 before I will respond to your email," that has absolutely nothing to do with female domination anyway. You probably see the same scam on dating sites with pictures of models, or versions of it on financial wealth building sites, but instead of stolen pictures of latex clad models there are pictures of luxury cars. Akasha

PrincessJessieJ -> RE: Fin dommes (7/14/2012 11:02:20 PM)
Responding to Aakasha, but not quoting that because holy shit the size. Pretty much. Although I have seen some otherwise respectable findommes start asking for tributes right out the gate because they've had so many of those 'tease' types. Unfortunately, it doesn't help things much as far as general perception of the kink.

dink22 -> RE: Fin dommes (7/14/2012 11:05:03 PM)
AAkasha, at least you tried to explain it eloquently. I must give you praise for that. But I can't help but thinking female domination, MY sexuality, is a sick sexuality. Male dominants don't ask for "tribute," female dominants do. See, I'm too old now, but what I had hoped, at one point in life, was that maybe there was someone for me. Maybe there was someone who wouldn't think my desire to be dominated was weird. Maybe we could get together, have kids, and our kink would just be a very private thing. And mutually enjoyable for both of us. But very private. For a while, I deluded myself that, yes! There were tons of chicks that were into the femdom kink!!!! Then all the financial dommes on CM helped me to realize what a loser I was -- that my dream was an illusion and a million miles away. Unless I wanted to PAY PAY PAY!!! Still, I refuse to think of my sexuality as hopeless. Pretty stupid of me, I know.

AAkasha -> RE: Fin dommes (7/14/2012 11:09:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PrincessJessieJ Responding to Aakasha, but not quoting that because holy shit the size. Pretty much. Although I have seen some otherwise respectable findommes start asking for tributes right out the gate because they've had so many of those 'tease' types. Unfortunately, it doesn't help things much as far as general perception of the kink. Right, that makes sense, and this could be an entire thread of it's own and bring it off topic -- but the point is this. For as many male subs that complain that they are offended by femdoms (many who are just men pretending to be women, or companies for all we know mass producing fake profiles here or on many sites) who are "using them" by soliciting cash/gifts up front.....there are also MANY femdoms who "fall for the scam" of having what they believe is a genuine line of questioning from a man about his fetishes and her fetishes, when ultimately all he is doing is - literally - jerking off to the emails with no intent of EVER doing anything. Maybe he's dangling a relationship potential, or maybe he's dangling that he "may pay the tribute" if she's a pro, but he's engaging in a line of questioning specifically designed to get responses to questions with the intent that when he reads the answers, he will masturbate and probably ejaculate. He may be doing this with 10 - 15 - 20 women at a time because he just needs 1 to respond and talk to him and he can get off on that. It's like being a flasher. Shrugs. We get used too. It happens. It's the Internet. What can we do? Protect ourselves by not falling into the line of questioning that looks like fishing. Akasha

AAkasha -> RE: Fin dommes (7/14/2012 11:15:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dink22 AAkasha, at least you tried to explain it eloquently. I must give you praise for that. But I can't help but thinking female domination, MY sexuality, is a sick sexuality. Male dominants don't ask for "tribute," female dominants do. See, I'm too old now, but what I had hoped, at one point in life, was that maybe there was someone for me. Maybe there was someone who wouldn't think my desire to be dominated was weird. Maybe we could get together, have kids, and our kink would just be a very private thing. And mutually enjoyable for both of us. But very private. For a while, I deluded myself that, yes! There were tons of chicks that were into the femdom kink!!!! Then all the financial dommes on CM helped me to realize what a loser I was -- that my dream was an illusion and a million miles away. Unless I wanted to PAY PAY PAY!!! Still, I refuse to think of my sexuality as hopeless. Pretty stupid of me, I know. You are still hung up on the fact that female dominants (some of them) ask for a tribute. Some ask to be compensated for their time and skill and play space (professionals in a dungeon who are skilled at what they do) and some engage in a fetish with willing partners who like to combine power exchange with money (two consenting adults). The rest - scammers - are no different from the scammers "down the block" on the Internet scamming "little old ladies", people with real estate schemes and pyramid schemes, etc. It could be a man behind the profile. It has absolutely zero to do with "female domination*. It's just a bunch of people exploiting a niche because it's there. I know lots of lifestyle femdoms who have careers outside of kink. I'm one of them. But while we're rare, one thing we do often align on is distancing ourselves from men who rail against financial domination as if all of us are out for his wallet, when in fact most of the "scammers" have nothing to do with us and everything to do with the fact that sub men are so demanding and "right here, right now, my way!" about their fetish, that the market it exists. It makes it hard for us, too. And as a woman who is the breadwinner in my relationship and makes the money, it grates on me even more. Most of the lifestyle femdoms I know are self made in one way or another and pay their own way in their lifestyle, not living off of a man. As a group, lifestyle femdoms tend to be pretty tenacious and ambitious, and not all of us work in the kink world. Akasha

dink22 -> RE: Fin dommes (7/14/2012 11:31:24 PM)
quote: I know lots of lifestyle femdoms who have careers outside of kink. I'm one of them. But while we're rare, one thing we do often align on is distancing ourselves from men who rail against financial domination as if all of us are out for his wallet, when in fact most of the "scammers" have nothing to do with us and everything to do with the fact that sub men are so demanding and "right here, right now, my way!" about their fetish, that the market it exists. It makes it hard for us, too I think you'd have gotten along well with me. I would have been so awesomely happy with someone who understood me, that she would have felt like the queen of civilization ;)

littlewonder -> RE: Fin dommes (7/14/2012 11:34:54 PM)
This thread just gets funnier and funnier. I love malesubs if for nothing else than great entertainment.

AAkasha -> RE: Fin dommes (7/14/2012 11:40:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dink22 quote: I know lots of lifestyle femdoms who have careers outside of kink. I'm one of them. But while we're rare, one thing we do often align on is distancing ourselves from men who rail against financial domination as if all of us are out for his wallet, when in fact most of the "scammers" have nothing to do with us and everything to do with the fact that sub men are so demanding and "right here, right now, my way!" about their fetish, that the market it exists. It makes it hard for us, too I think you'd have gotten along well with me. I would have been so awesomely happy with someone who understood me, that she would have felt like the queen of civilization ;) Not all femdoms want to be the queen of anything. The problem might not be that femdoms don't exist. The problem might be with your perception of dominant women. And in a relationship, it's not about someone understanding you, or being the answer to your fetishes and fantasies, it's about being understood. Most sub men don't understand, or want to understand, dominant women, beyond what their fantasies or perceptions have dictated. I'm not at all into being "worshipped." I'm into being cruel. There's a huge difference! Akasha

dink22 -> RE: Fin dommes (7/14/2012 11:41:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: littlewonder This thread just gets funnier and funnier. I love malesubs if for nothing else than great entertainment. Really? You think this is "funny?" How so?

littlewonder -> RE: Fin dommes (7/14/2012 11:42:22 PM)
oh in soooo many ways and the funniest part is you can't even see it lol.

dink22 -> RE: Fin dommes (7/14/2012 11:45:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: littlewonder oh in soooo many ways and the funniest part is you can't even see it lol. Wow. Wish I could be like you, and "see it." No doubt I'd laugh my ass off.

littlewonder -> RE: Fin dommes (7/14/2012 11:47:31 PM)
you would!!!

JanahX -> RE: Fin dommes (7/14/2012 11:50:37 PM)
Because you were dumb enough to post it. - Mod21 shut down your other post, and then you go and start this. Have fun with her. Im sure she LOVES it when posters do this kind of thing. quote: ORIGINAL: dink22 quote: ORIGINAL: littlewonder This thread just gets funnier and funnier. I love malesubs if for nothing else than great entertainment. Really? You think this is "funny?" How so?

ModTwentyOne -> RE: Fin dommes (7/15/2012 12:21:21 AM)
quote: Mod21 shut down your other post, and then you go and start this. Have fun with her. Im sure she LOVES it when posters do this kind of thing. Starting another thread on the same subject because we closed the first one is frowned upon. My frowny face is not attractive. Don't do it again.

dink22 -> RE: Fin dommes (7/15/2012 12:22:00 AM)
Mod 21 is a pussy.

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