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RE: My orgasms belong to HIM - 7/24/2012 3:48:40 PM   
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Congratulations for having the guts to come back:) Kudos
I had a WTF moment myself I must admit, but... you got thru it and came out....relatively unscathed. And while you got a harsh time in some responses... most if not all of these people actually do give a damn about people...a great deal.
Good luck, and take from it what you will, the advice , even the scolding, really helps sometimes when people get carried away with the wonders that BDSM can bring.



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RE: My orgasms belong to HIM - 7/24/2012 4:40:51 PM   
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No, I really take your point, and the stupidity, yep I fully agree it was a stupid and dangerous thing to do. It turned out ok, but it's not something I will do again. As for ripping into me, that doesn't help, and it's rather the kind words I've received in private message that have been most helpful. You may all be very experienced and your words and opinions come from that place, but keep in mind I am just acknowledging submissive tendencies and seeing where that goes. It's certainly a rush, and yeah I got a bit intoxicated by it and didn't keep my head. Doesn't mean I'm an idiot as you'd have me believe, just behaved like an idiot. I am not sad and pathetic either, you don't know me enough to make such broad statements about me as a whole. Thanks anyways.


I have done very stupid things in my life, I have to say though, that your opening post really took that to a new level. People here aren't just being mean- I've seen plenty of support given at other times, it seems to be tied to the poster for the most part. My theory is that you honestly blindsided the board here with your OP, it wasn't just someone relating something stupid, it was a level far beyond that. You reference others having more experience than you, if you take that tack I'm afraid you won't learn anything meaningful about why people were so appalled at what you've done with yourself. You don't need experience in some particular thing to be well-versed in life. If I've worked in Customer Service all my life and then get a new job as an Executive Assistant, it shouldn't take me long to apply what I learned before to my new position. BDSM is nothing so rare and delicate that you have to acquire a skill set or start all over with knowing how to deal with others in order to engage in it. It's just kinky fun. There are no rules or absolutes. If someone tells you that, then they are usually trying to get something from you....right? If I tell you that every time you leave your house you now have to pay me a toll, would you do it? Then why believe what someone tells you when it comes to your own body and safety?

You are in control of your own destiny and you seemed not to have any care for that, to the point that you did some incredibly dangerous things and it didn't seem to occur to you to question things, or put a stop to it. In all my time here I don't know if I can say I've ever seen anything as breathtakingly careless and scary as you lying naked on a bed, blindfolded, and waiting for a stranger to fuck you because another stranger said so. Can you not see how many levels of personal safety this violates? It's far worse than anything I've had done to me in the name of BDSM. Reading your OP was almost like a punch to the gut, it created spontaneous reactions of outrage and disbelief from others, if you label that as meanness you are really missing the point, which is that you completely blindsided others to the point that they didn't feel they could offer you mere sensible words. If your friend was about to walk into a speeding car would you carefully call out to her in a gentle way with a well thought out phrase, or scream bloody murder to get her attention and tell her to get her *&@% ass out of there?

Just acknowledging submissive tendencies and seeing where it goes does not necessarily equate to letting a stranger use your physical self. If it did, I'd hang this all up now and call it a day, and hey....I'm a submissive. Being submissive does not mean our brains are now useless, or that we are not able to look out for ourselves.

Please I'm begging you, look at this differently. Take the BDSM out of it. Meet men online or in person and DATE them. Have coffee or a walk in the park. It's all just regular stuff until you know someone enough to move to the next level. There's no way you should have been on hold with the guy you met for this long without meeting, he's hiding something. The kinky world is nothing special, it's just the same old interactions between people the way they've always been. If you wouldn't have let someone control your orgasms before, why do it now? Until you know someone well enough to accept them as your Dominant everything is equal. If you do accept someone as being your leader, meet them first and put some time and thought into whether or not they'd be a good addition to your life. Just like any boyfriend you've had in the past. It's nothing special, no new relationship rules apply until you've crossed over into making a D/s relationship with someone. The guy you talked about in the first posting sounds married and as though he's taking liberties he shouldn't be at this point- and you are letting him. You've never met, why are you even talking about masturbation and punishment?

All the things I said before are how you should proceed carefully. Have I always done it that way? No. I do think it's the best way to go about things, although I haven't followed that myself. Yes, I've made mistakes. They never blew up in my face, although I now regret some of them. Have i ever had sex on a first meeting with a Dominant? Yes. Have I ever had sex on a first meeting with a date? Yes. Do I usually? No, and I'd say that's usually the way it goes, but things happen and I"ve been caught up in the moment and the man and done otherwise. That being said I have never, and will never, let someone put me in as much danger as you have with the "punishment" that you went along with. That has nothing to do with my lifestyle experience and everything to do with my taking responsibility for my own safety and future.

Extra little advices and such:
-Never let anyone tell you to "prove" yourself to them as a submissive. That's BS. How about you making him prove himself as a Dominant?
-If someone won't meet you yet lives near, then there is a reason and you most likely won't like it. Move on.
-No one gets to punish until you and he have decided to be Dominant and submissive to each other. You are not submissive to the world, he does not get to Dominate the world. You both decide if and when you take on those roles.
-If you want to do orgasm control or anything, then do it. If you don't, then it's on your list of limits. You are entitled to say what goes on that list.
-No sex with strangers unless you know their disease status, and also realize that doesn't mean much anyway- tests are falsely comforting. Agree to that because it's something you WANT to do, not something someone else decides for you. It's your freaking life and future, what if you get something from this 'friend' or someone else? Who lives with that? You, not the guy who thought it was hot.
-Realize you have a voice, use it. Be sensible. You have no one to blame if things go balls up. If you're going to take risks then be aware of the consequences and don't fucking let others decide this shit for you.

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RE: My orgasms belong to HIM - 7/24/2012 4:46:03 PM   
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+eleventy for Lizi!

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RE: My orgasms belong to HIM - 7/24/2012 4:48:30 PM   
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Lizi wins!

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RE: My orgasms belong to HIM - 7/24/2012 4:48:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: Everly7298
You may all be very experienced and your words and opinions come from that place, but keep in mind I am just acknowledging submissive tendencies and seeing where that goes.


It has nothing to do with being submissive. It has to do with common sense. Just because you've decided that you're submissive it doesn't mean that you toss common sense, safe sex and morals out the window.



Everly7298

What OsideGirl said times two.....(except the part about morals, - being a slut isnt a bad thing.) look, Wwe've all done "stupid" things in our lives, (Im about to date Myself now).... I started swinging in the days where snail-mailing ads in swing magazines was the only way to meet people outside ur circle of friends. and believe Me, some of the situations I got myself into only knowing people from a piece of paper, still makes me wanna slap Myself for going through with it, and Im a Big Black Man, but today with women winding up dead from strangers they meet online happening more every year? what u did, is asking to have somebody find ur decomposing body in a ditch or a shallow grave miles from ur home someplace.... and nobody would have a clue how u got there. Pat urself on the ass for ur "beginners luck" and dont do that again.

...REALLY, nobody faults u for having a fantasy, or even being trusting,..... butt somewhere u need to meet ur common sense and have a long heart-2-heart conversation with her.

< Message edited by itsSIRtou -- 7/24/2012 4:54:32 PM >


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RE: My orgasms belong to HIM - 7/24/2012 4:49:26 PM   
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To the OP... you will find a lot of guidance, help, concern from the subs on this side of 'Collarme' in the boards but you will also discover that they will call you out on your shit. Not everyone who remarks on anything care, but here, I think the majority do. Still, it is like anything sexual/relationship... just as a teenager discovering sex, people do stupid things, same in this context. Most of the reaction here is almost the same that I had numerous times with my kids... they would do something and I would look at them and say "What the fucking hell were you thinking?", the problem was, they weren't thinking.

If you take offence at how the subs and others have responded to you... realize, in my own experience, submissives, especially the women that I have known and met, tend to be intelligent, outspoken, strong individuals... one of my best friends is a slave and she is intimidating as hell to most people and yet one of the most obedient, loving, giving slave that I know. Now, if only her "Master" realized that, they would both be happier but I digress... come here and ask. People may tease a bit but if you are sincere, you will receive a lot of sincere information. Also, take this out of internet and meet people. Realize that just because someone is into "BDSM" that does not mean they might not be abusive, an asshole, just plain fucking stupid.

...and I would reiterate the thought, don't become "dumb" just because you are discovering this, hopefully you weren't a stupid person before, why allow yourself to become one now? If it seems wrong, if you are told you aren't "true" unless, whatever, listen to what you know. Don't ever lose the ability to say "Go fuck yourself" and turn around and walk away.

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RE: My orgasms belong to HIM - 7/24/2012 4:50:40 PM   
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I'm not even close to an expert and pretty naive myself about some things, but this is not a very believable story. yay maybe I'm not so naive as I am told lol.. I have a question for you all but I'll not bother to add it to this thread. I wonder why they haven't posted again to all the reponses?

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RE: My orgasms belong to HIM - 7/24/2012 5:02:46 PM   
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The OP did.

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RE: My orgasms belong to HIM - 7/24/2012 5:09:32 PM   
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quote:

I have a question for you all but I'll not bother to add it to this thread.

If it's relevant, ask away; if not, start a new thread.

quote:

I wonder why they haven't posted again to all the reponses?

See post 39.

quote:

this is not a very believable story. yay maybe I'm not so naive as I am told lol..

What does it say about me that I never have any problem relating to the women who others find unbelievable? Lol. (Note - this does not apply to the Fab Four.)

THIS is how people who are making up stories react: http://www.collarchat.com/m_4161990/tm.htm

< Message edited by kalikshama -- 7/24/2012 5:16:23 PM >


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RE: My orgasms belong to HIM - 7/24/2012 5:48:22 PM   
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Goddamn you kalikshama... I finally read the hucow thread. That was just mean, mean, mean of you.

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RE: My orgasms belong to HIM - 7/24/2012 5:51:19 PM   
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That thread was funny as hell. Glad you finally read it.

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RE: My orgasms belong to HIM - 7/24/2012 5:53:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK

That thread was funny as hell. Glad you finally read it.


I lost at least two minutes of my life that I will never recover... now figure the time lost to my ex-wife and the last six years to my ex-sub, that was a more painful loss.

Back to the thread though...

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RE: My orgasms belong to HIM - 7/24/2012 9:23:32 PM   
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Question for the OP.

What happens tomorrow?

Seriously.

Is some guy you still don't know from Adam going to visit you? Perhaps without prior arrangement? Or maybe some other guy entirely? Or maybe the first guy again? There are reasons that rule #1 is don't send $$ and rule #2 is meet in public if you are going to. Rule #2 is what it is because you just might want to run away home where you are safe, fast.

And now you are not in a position to do that.

This is the real problem you have made for yourself. It's called shitting where you live. If it happens you own a .38 then you are in good shape. If not, uhmmmm... You might have to move. Fast. Be alert.

You notice this is not criticism. I would, but I see you already have some.

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RE: My orgasms belong to HIM - 7/25/2012 5:25:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

You don't think it's made up?



I would like to think that no one is stupid enough to do this, but I have found that isn't always the case.

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RE: My orgasms belong to HIM - 7/25/2012 5:29:33 AM   
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So NONE of y'all did ANY stupid shit when you were new?



I did some really stupid shit when I was new. But somehow after reading the op, it just doesn't seem as stupid now. Maybe we should start a thread. I bet there are some interesting stories out there.

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RE: My orgasms belong to HIM - 7/25/2012 6:05:30 AM   
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No, I really take your point, and the stupidity, yep I fully agree it was a stupid and dangerous thing to do. It turned out ok, but it's not something I will do again. As for ripping into me, that doesn't help, and it's rather the kind words I've received in private message that have been most helpful. You may all be very experienced and your words and opinions come from that place, but keep in mind I am just acknowledging submissive tendencies and seeing where that goes. It's certainly a rush, and yeah I got a bit intoxicated by it and didn't keep my head. Doesn't mean I'm an idiot as you'd have me believe, just behaved like an idiot. I am not sad and pathetic either, you don't know me enough to make such broad statements about me as a whole. Thanks anyways.
Well, let Me pat you on the head because you are too fragile for harsh words. When you get that HIV pos status in six months, which is going to be worse? There is NOTHING I can say to you here that is worse than a medical condition that will last you for the rest of your days.

Years back, stupid shit didn't cost a person their life too often. You don't have that luxury. Rolling the dice just ain't the same these days. Sorry about that since you don't want people to tell you the reality of it.

I'm thrilled that you got folks to baby you on the other side. On the boards, you'll get the unvarnished truth. The reason for that is, if twenty other girls read this stuff and *don't* do stupid shit, then it's worth it.




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RE: My orgasms belong to HIM - 7/25/2012 8:19:34 AM   
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So NONE of y'all did ANY stupid shit when you were new?


Not this insane level of stupid that had the power to kill me in about 5 different ways. The things she is describing here are actually breathtakingly foolish to the point that people are wondering whether or not to believe they actually happened! I can't call what the OP related here as being the "normal" level of stupidity while in the throes of sub frenzy and others seem to be having the same problem.

The level of stupidity she's talking about here should be called out so people don't think that BDSM is a magical world where normal things like safety and common sense are suspended, and where people do anything and everything that they think of in the name of getting off. I"m really tired of people coming here and thinking that losing their minds and chucking all adult responsibility and social convention is the name of the game.

In BDSM people still bleed the same and die the same as they always do. There are still social conventions in place between strangers. People still have brains and desires and wants and needs of their own regardless of their sexual orientation. The laws of physics still apply. The world at large still conforms to the usual boundaries. I'm pretty sick of BDSM being used as an umbrella to excuse boorish, childish, dangerous, behavior.

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RE: My orgasms belong to HIM - 7/25/2012 9:09:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Everly7298
I have yet to actually meet him but he has punished me for masturbating without permission, and sent
his friend to just come in and fuck me.

Essentially, I am in the position of proving myself to be a worthy submissive before he will have me...
this makes me nervous, and I hope in the end he is who he says he is.
I guess what I'm asking for is feedback, some guidance or mentoring...?


How many more hoops are you willing to jump through to find out? And what type of man is he actually
portraying to you to make you think risking your safety is worth it? Are you attracted to him simply because
he claims he is a dominant man? You know, there are a whole lot of dominant men on this site who will
like you simply for being you, not for how submissive you are.
Those are the ones you should be proving your worth to.

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RE: My orgasms belong to HIM - 7/25/2012 11:29:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact


quote:

ORIGINAL: Everly7298

No, I really take your point, and the stupidity, yep I fully agree it was a stupid and dangerous thing to do. It turned out ok, but it's not something I will do again. As for ripping into me, that doesn't help, and it's rather the kind words I've received in private message that have been most helpful. You may all be very experienced and your words and opinions come from that place, but keep in mind I am just acknowledging submissive tendencies and seeing where that goes. It's certainly a rush, and yeah I got a bit intoxicated by it and didn't keep my head. Doesn't mean I'm an idiot as you'd have me believe, just behaved like an idiot. I am not sad and pathetic either, you don't know me enough to make such broad statements about me as a whole. Thanks anyways.
Well, let Me pat you on the head because you are too fragile for harsh words. When you get that HIV pos status in six months, which is going to be worse? There is NOTHING I can say to you here that is worse than a medical condition that will last you for the rest of your days.

Years back, stupid shit didn't cost a person their life too often. You don't have that luxury. Rolling the dice just ain't the same these days. Sorry about that since you don't want people to tell you the reality of it.

I'm thrilled that you got folks to baby you on the other side. On the boards, you'll get the unvarnished truth. The reason for that is, if twenty other girls read this stuff and *don't* do stupid shit, then it's worth it.





This^^

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RE: My orgasms belong to HIM - 7/25/2012 1:04:49 PM   
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I hate the title of this thread; it makes me gag. Sort of the "submission is a gift" thing. Eww.

1. My orgasms are mine, the guy has his and everyone who gets to cum is happy.
2. The OP did something incredibly stupid.
3. Frenzy makes me people use bad judgement, or, they had bad judgement to begin with.

I did dumb stuff early on my life, but never something like this.

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