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Is this BDSM? - 4/3/2004 1:10:55 PM

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Hello,

I offer dark petry by way of introduction...

I am a handsome, intelligent, late 30's Dom, very experienced, and very selective. your personal ad caught my eye. I only engage those submissive females at the extreme end of the D/s spectrum.

I am located in northern Ohio. The slave will relocate and serve me as a live-in tool.

I seek a canvas, a female who will become an owned thing, as totally controlled as possible, surrendering her "normal" life for the intensity of fear and xcitement that only being helpless will bring.

Other responsibilities, such as family, children, career development, will certainly interfere with service, and those encumbered by such are not suitable candidates.

Degradation will include licking the toilet bowl, floor, bathroom tiles and more to prove that the slave has cleaned them properly.

the slave will have human actions and functions stripped from it. it will toilet in a bucket and / or litter box. it will sleep chained in a cage. During menstruation, it will wear diapers.

the slave will in short time be dehumanized, becoming an "it". Restrictions shall apply, bondage, sensory deprivation, ritual speech, when speech is permitted, which will be rare. it will spend almost all time naked, hooded and locked in chains.

In initial training, ten minutes a day will be set aside for the slave to express it's concerns. it will kneel facing a wall, and speak of any matters of import. This will not be a conversation, and it will not be answered. However, during this time I will note it's concerns.

the slave will eat from a dish on the floor, or from the floor. its meals will include scraps, such as coffee grounds, potato peels and eggshells.

The slave will have no privacy. it will piss, shit, sleep, starve and suffer for my amusement. it will be psychologically renovated, rebuilt from the ground up.

It will be used in any manner I desire that does not imperil it's existence.

My goal is for the slave to become little more than a living collection of orifices and pleasing parts for it's Master's use.

Applicants must be psychologically sound, of strong character, and needful and craving of the above.

I am very serious and can supply images of previous slaves in service. If you think the above is for you, write back ASAP.

Master

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RE: Is this BDSM? - 4/3/2004 1:42:21 PM

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Is this BDSM? For some. Yes, it is extreme. Yes it is not for all. But this line is the one that makes me see this is perfectly reasonable if it's what both parties seek.

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It will be used in any manner I desire that does not imperil it's existence.

Personally it is not something I could do. I wouldn't give up my family for anyone, which is why when searching, I never really met those who wanted that done. My children are not *ahead* Master in all, but they are in some aspects. Master and I agreed to take in Race, and in doing so *in my mind*, agreed that his needs must supersede Masters *wants*.

But this person, though extreme, does talk about safety. Even in the disgusting things (like licking the toilet), he said it would be *to prove the slave cleaned them properly*.

Granted, I believe the best slaves are ones that have self worth, and are able to use their intellect to make the lives of their dominant more pleasurable. But, even though I know I would not have chosen a master who would strip me of my self worth, I do know there are those who feel that need....

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RE: Is this BDSM? - 4/3/2004 1:57:57 PM

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At first glance this appeared to be just another Troll post.

At second glance it looks like a Troll message posted by a sub...

Is this your suggested entry for Top Ten Troll lines patience? (btw, that thread is still on the board)

Your thread title "Is this BDSM?" infers you desire feedback on the posted e-mail that you apparently received.

The message reads like a "wishful thinking TPT" (Total Power Trip) of the author (or his TPT fantasy). He evidently believes he is harsh and desires to convince you of same. It further states he seeks an 'it' slave unencumbered by anything (family, profession, etc), and intends to dehumanize the 'it' to become his TPT slave 'it'.

If you are into TPE and dehumanization, the message is BDSM. if you are not, the message is simply TPT fantasy... his kinks, and not your's.

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RE: Is this BDSM? - 4/3/2004 10:20:53 PM

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I thought the "phychologically sound and of strong character" was a nice, ironic touch after the "become nothing more than a collection of orafices" part. Dehumanization isn't my thing. Those who do it successfully and like it, in my experience, really only do it in the context of play. You can't reduce someone to a piece of meat 24/7 and have them remain sane in the long haul. All but those poor souls who truly feel that they are somehow less than human will accept the utter loss of their humanity with any grace at all. Living it 24/7 is an interesting (if somewhat development arrested and adolescent) fantasy for some, but that's about it. Fact is, even for those who like the fantasy, the reality would be disappointing. "A collection of orafices and pleasing parts" without anything else to offer is going to get just plain boring after a bit, no matter how nice the orafices or pleasing the parts. Humans need human interaction.

All that aside, you are asking the wrong question. Just about anything that you can imagine (and some things that you can't) fall under the huge umbrella of "BDSM". Some of it is more correctly fetishism, and has nothing to do with B, or D, or S, or M, but it gets lumped in with everything else anyway. The question that you should be asking is whether what he is proposing is in any way attractive to you. If it isn't, just let it go. If you stick around, this won't be the most bizzare offer you get, I assure you.

Take care of yourself

Leonidas

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RE: Is this BDSM? - 4/3/2004 10:26:19 PM

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Oh, and one more thing. Please be a nonsmoker.

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RE: Is this BDSM? - 4/3/2004 11:49:58 PM

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and you must not have peirced ears..... *just laughs with you*

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RE: Is this BDSM? - 4/4/2004 6:13:10 AM

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simple questions deserve simple answers
yes it is.

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RE: Is this BDSM? - 4/4/2004 9:28:55 AM

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Looks like a troll message to me.

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RE: Is this BDSM? - 4/4/2004 1:15:20 PM

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Maybe it's psychological - if it's real - maybe the poster is looking for a certain personality type. I can't believe that this is possible 24/7 by any stretch of the imagination.

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RE: Is this BDSM? - 4/4/2004 6:04:13 PM

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Why, after reading that "post," did I suddenly get images of the psycho, who kept his victim trapped in a hole, from the movie, "Silence of the Lambs?"

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RE: Is this BDSM? - 4/4/2004 6:36:07 PM

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Yeah, it's one man's bdsm.

I noticed that he talked about rebuilding the sub:

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it will be psychologically renovated, rebuilt from the ground up.

but his entire letter seemed to me to be about destruction. I can appreciate the proper application of destruction in some things. I'd be curious to know what his final vision looked like and if it could possibly be anyone who could ever positively contribute.

It does read a bit like a bad bdsm story, though.

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RE: Is this BDSM? - 4/5/2004 3:48:38 PM

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A fucking idiot "By way of introduction" is still a fucking idiot.

Get a grip and troll elsewhere.

Terry

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RE: Is this BDSM? - 4/10/2004 10:58:57 AM

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Aside from just a visceral disgust for the whole scenario (something I typical have to some of these fanatsies of the more depraved HNG), I had two specific thoughts in reaction to what this person (that term is debatable) would like to do.

First, that diet of coffee grounds and eggshells will have particulary bad results and could make quite a case for this being abuse rather than BDSM.

But it was the offer to supply pictures of his previous possessions that I respond most. I think in this case and interview with the predecessors would be necessary...... if only to verify they are still alive and not living on thorzine in a mental institution. Any geek can come up with pictures of anything.

Mme. TalN

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RE: Is this BDSM? - 4/10/2004 1:10:15 PM

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Hmmm...

What slave wouldnt be jumping for the chance to lick the toilet bowl! What man wouldnt be proud to own such a creature!

Ahhh I do enjoy reading the funnies.

Stephan

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RE: Is this BDSM? - 4/12/2004 5:28:29 PM

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you could have a slave, let's say. but it would be much more benefical for you to rupture your own anus with a dong. xooxmarinas

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RE: Is this BDSM? - 4/23/2004 12:53:35 PM

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Oh so you got this one too? I've saved it and I sent it to a number of friends for their amusement so I was quite greatful for it.

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RE: Is this BDSM? - 4/23/2004 1:27:04 PM

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It sounds like someone's on a head trip. I have not seen anything that was loving in that post, lookes like abuse to me.

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RE: Is this BDSM? - 4/26/2004 3:37:38 PM

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Amen to that, Sandy. I have always believed that the best submissives and slaves are the ones who are intelligent, well-spoken, are able to form an opnion and not only stand by it but explain exactly *why*. In my school of thought, degradation should not even enter into the equation of determining a submissive's or slave's worth unless that it an important dynamic to that relationship.

The ability to let go and place their, physical, sexual, emotional and at times intellectual well-being in the hands of a trusted dominant is (in my eyes) the deciding factor in how good she can be. There are myriad other factors involved of course, but that is the one that makes or breaks a potential relationship.

That's just the way I do things; Your Mileage May Vary.

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RE: Is this BDSM? - 4/27/2004 6:04:28 PM

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Greetings,

We used to have a rule / guideline when I was a horndog adolescent we called the 5% rule. Simply put, this rule states that if you ask 20 women if they want to drop to their knees and give one a blowjob, 1 of them will do it.

The 5% rule applies to that post. There will be somebody out there who will jump at the chance no matter how odd the other 95% think that person is.

Your approach to BDSM is not for me, but it is not my place to say it is "wrong."

Good luck,

Sinergy

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RE: Is this BDSM? - 5/4/2004 12:40:14 AM

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quote:

collection of orifices and pleasing parts

sounds like he could just as well make do with a blow up doll

in defense, however, he does state

quote:

I only engage those submissive females at the extreme end of the D/s spectrum.

I am of the opinion that it is a personal choice - "one man's mead is another man's poison"

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