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Advice needed in corsetry / waist training - 6/12/2006 12:38:51 PM   
jadedshadow


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I am considering starting training in waist training. I love the thought of having a petite waist, and have secretly covetted tight lacers for a long time. I have looked into what resources there are online (via google and a few sites from browsing past posts in this forum) and am getting a basic idea of it, but am left with a few questions. First, is a corset the best thing to start out with or will a training belt do? I can't afford to go and have a custom fitting (not to mention I'm in b**f***k nowheresville..) can anyone suggest anyway else I can get started? Another thing, what's the difference between spiral boning and rigid boning..and should I get the steel or the plastic or what?? Does it matter what the fabric is -- brocade, silk, leather..etc.? Any sincere replies, greatly appreciaed.
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RE: Advice needed in corsetry / waist training - 6/12/2006 1:50:06 PM   
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I am considering starting training in waist training. I love the thought of having a petite waist, and have secretly covetted tight lacers for a long time. I have looked into what resources there are online (via google and a few sites from browsing past posts in this forum) and am getting a basic idea of it, but am left with a few questions. First, is a corset the best thing to start out with or will a training belt do?

If you want to be corset trained, you should start with a corset.  However, if you want a real baby step approach, then a belt to get you used to moving in it and the pressure of it can be a good start.

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 I can't afford to go and have a custom fitting (not to mention I'm in b**f***k nowheresville..) can anyone suggest anyway else I can get started?

Nope.  If you are serious about the corset training, then you're going to need a few very good quality sturdy ones to work with. 

Now, if you just want to be able to wear one for a few hours, then there are some sites to get ones made from measurements you take yourself and you can practice in those.
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Another thing, what's the difference between spiral boning and rigid boning..and should I get the steel or the plastic or what??

Steel or whale.  Plastic is just for fashion corsets- the keep things stiff but they don't actually support.

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Does it matter what the fabric is -- brocade, silk, leather..etc

Since you'll be wearing these nearly 24/7, it's good to have a few just basic cotton or sturdy linen ones for washing.  And I'm sure you'll have a few to wear on special occasions or to show off.

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RE: Advice needed in corsetry / waist training - 6/13/2006 3:21:47 PM   
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Thanks for the reply LuckyAlbatross, I will look into finding sites that can take them from my measurements, altho all the ones I've found so far request an in person fitting. I have seen the orthopedic corsets that are cotton, which have steel boning, but are basicly for posture correction and back support more than waist training. Will those do? I am on a limited budget and need to make sure what I will get will be something I can wear on a day to day bases, I'm not worried about frills right now, but of course will get one to "show off" when my waist is thin enough to show off..

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RE: Advice needed in corsetry / waist training - 6/13/2006 7:09:37 PM   
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The many corsets I have are with metal bonings, including the leather ones that I wear in play. The one I use on a daily basis, is made with fiberglass boning. It is nice fabric and  victorian style, pretty expensive but worth every penny. It is the most flexible one I have to wear, and unnoticiable under my clothing, despite the breathing you can do just about anything with this one on.

You want to start out with at least a 2" size smaller than your normal waist size, because as you train you find that it will close over a period of time.. Try a camisole under neath too.  Also use it in durations at first, don't try wearing it all day, and don't worry if it doesn't close, if you train it will eventually close.

Corset training takes time and you have to gradually work your way down. Let me send some links, if I can still find them under my favorites. My former M owned a fetish boutique and would always advise those to try one on before just buying. I however have order some on line, but they were custom made.I purchased the fiberglass corset at Le Chateau in New Hope PA. I don't think they are on the web, but I don't really know since I'm too far to go in person.  Here are some links to the sites I have. Of course a google will give you all kinds of info.

www.divacorsets.com
www.versatile-fashions.com
www.absolutecorsets.com
 
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RE: Advice needed in corsetry / waist training - 6/15/2006 12:04:57 PM   
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My most gracious thanks Nina, especially for the links . Sorry for the belated reply, didn't realize I was not getting notices on this one.

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RE: Advice needed in corsetry / waist training - 6/16/2006 3:51:29 PM   
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Do you happen to use livejournal?  I know that there are several communities there on corsetry and tight lacing.  I'm sure they could not only help you learn how to safely, but also help you find a reputable corset maker within your price range.  You don't have to be a member to read, but you would have to join in order to post (which is free.)  I don't have the links to the communities on this computer, or I'd just post them below. 

If you would like to check them out just send me a message on the other side.

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RE: Advice needed in corsetry / waist training - 6/20/2006 9:54:52 AM   
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I like to use the spiral steel in my corsets. Why... its flexable but keeps shape, actually makes for a nicer figure than the stiff boning. Even the plastic stuff is... well lets just say i have a top made with it and rarely wear it as the boning twists in a way that it pokes me rather uncomfortably, and not in a way a corset should. I make corests for ren-fair mainly but a corset is a corset and yes its suppose to be restricting but it should also be somewhat comfortable. I hope these links will work for you.
Elizabethan Costuming Page
Recreating 16th and 17th Century Clothing: The Renaissance Tailor
DC Enterprises: Corset Boning - Spiral Steel, White Bone, Hoop Boning, Plastic
I am pretty sure I have some others its just a matter of tracking them down in my mess of favorites folder :)

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RE: Advice needed in corsetry / waist training - 7/30/2006 8:03:17 PM   
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Look up 'wasp waist'.

In the corsets I have made, I have used both spiral and straight steel bones. The spiral bones are less supportive but they will bend from side to side as well as back and forth, and so I use them particularly around the bust. They fill in the parts the straight ones wont! This probably wont help, but good luck!

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RE: Advice needed in corsetry / waist training - 2/18/2008 9:56:16 AM   
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Steel boning is not so rigid at all. Satin is good for start up. I recommend corset from www.shapercorset.com that their corset is one of the best products I have bought. I would recommend that anyone looking for a 300$ corset should take a look at the amazing deal that this corset is. It not only fits well, but it also feels great! If I could buy this corset again, I would redo it 10 times. Good luck.
 

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RE: Advice needed in corsetry / waist training - 2/18/2008 10:47:33 AM   
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Off the rack corsets sized solely by waist measurement are next to useless for any real waist training.  Was it really worth reanimating a cadaver of a post that's been dead for a year and a half to advertise for a totally inappropriate product? 

Since you and the company in question are located very near each other, and this is your only post in the forums, a cynical person might wonder if you were connected with said company in some way and just "forgot" to mention it.

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RE: Advice needed in corsetry / waist training - 2/18/2008 11:04:19 AM   
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Just a few things - sorry for being picky here.

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

If you want to be corset trained, you should start with a corset. However, if you want a real baby step approach, then a belt to get you used to moving in it and the pressure of it can be a good start.


A belt could likely turn one off of corsetry, since it’s a very localized pressure that will be quite uncomfortable. A good corset will not be uncomfortable.
I can do an 8" reduction in a corset, down to 22" - however, a tight belt makes me, personally, feel very ill. Tightlacing versus a tight belt are very different things.

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Steel or whale. Plastic is just for fashion corsets- the keep things stiff but they don't actually support.


Any corsetiere who tries to tell you their corsets are boned with whale is probably a fraud. Whalebone/baleine is no longer used, and is prohibited by law in many regions. There is a synthetic version available, however, which is made out of plastic, and should not be confused with flimsy plastic boning.

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Does it matter what the fabric is -- brocade, silk, leather..etc
Since you'll be wearing these nearly 24/7, it's good to have a few just basic cotton or sturdy linen ones for washing. And I'm sure you'll have a few to wear on special occasions or to show off.


Just to be clear, as I'm not sure what you mean here exactly, a corset absolutely cannot be washed.

As per the original poster's question, coutil would be the idea fabric.
You might want to check out C&S, as I would say they are the
company for tightlacing corsets. There are a lot of corsetieres out there who make fashion corsets, which they claim will hold up to long-term wear, but often they do not. I have never heard an ill word about C&S, and their clientele includes some VERY serious tightlacers..

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