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RE: Favorite way to degrade a sub - 11/8/2012 3:30:29 AM   
Killerangel


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You're all vanilla. I am a total bottom and I respect a dom who will totally degrade and humiliate me. I want a master who will show me who's boss, no matter what. I need a man who can break my will. The more this happens, the more respect I have for him. Slavery is slavery. Physical and emotional. You are either into or not. As a bottom, there is no negotiation. This is the definition of a slave.


How do you know what a "total bottom" is? Did you win an award for that or receive some kind of degree? Where exactly did you learn what this term means? Why does your definition of this term somehow extend to the rest of the people who choose BDSM, are you a legislator of kink? A lawmaker of some kind? A kinky dictionary writer or term definer? Are you a discoverer of BDSM? I seriously want to know how you got ahold of some absolute definitions and where they came from...and how you feel so confident that you can apply them to people you don't know.

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RE: Favorite way to degrade a sub - 11/8/2012 4:43:26 PM   
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That all depends on what does it for her.

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RE: Favorite way to degrade a sub - 11/8/2012 6:35:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Footstoolnyc

You're all vanilla. I am a total bottom and I respect a dom who will totally degrade and humiliate me. I want a master who will show me who's boss, no matter what. I need a man who can break my will. The more this happens, the more respect I have for him. Slavery is slavery. Physical and emotional. You are either into or not. As a bottom, there is no negotiation. This is the definition of a slave.


Well, as far as I'm concerned, I kind of agree...sort of. I don't believe in having a list of things I will or won't do. It's more a matter of finding the right person to turn myself over to.

But will can be broken, respect can be earned, and I can learn who's boss without degradation or humiliation. Personally, I don't mind either. But if you think that one has to be degraded or humiliated in order to learn respect, then I feel you lack the breadth and depth to label us all vanilla.



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RE: Favorite way to degrade a sub - 11/8/2012 6:36:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sexyred1


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ORIGINAL: Footstoolnyc

You're all vanilla. I am a total bottom and I respect a dom who will totally degrade and humiliate me. I want a master who will show me who's boss, no matter what. I need a man who can break my will. The more this happens, the more respect I have for him. Slavery is slavery. Physical and emotional. You are either into or not. As a bottom, there is no negotiation. This is the definition of a slave.


I love when someone comes here and pronounces that everyone is wrong because we don't agree with what you think.

Try to comprehend that there are all flavors of kinks and stop telling people what they are.

I love that its ALWAYS ones with less than 20 posts that come up with the onw weel & twue way to "educate us"...ummm yeah moving on!

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RE: Favorite way to degrade a sub - 11/8/2012 6:41:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Footstoolnyc

You're all vanilla. I am a total bottom and I respect a dom who will totally degrade and humiliate me. I want a master who will show me who's boss, no matter what. I need a man who can break my will. The more this happens, the more respect I have for him. Slavery is slavery. Physical and emotional. You are either into or not. As a bottom, there is no negotiation. This is the definition of a slave.

It is my humble opinion that someone who has
quote:

never used my penis, not even one time, during sex
is not in a place to be able to call others names.

Just sayin....

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RE: Favorite way to degrade a sub - 11/8/2012 6:42:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kaliko
But if you think that one has to be degraded or humiliated in order to learn respect


I'll also add that if you need to degrade or humiliate someone else to feel respected you have so major issues.


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RE: Favorite way to degrade a sub - 11/9/2012 5:35:12 AM   
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I'd get her to clean my oven. Which, me being man, hasn't been cleaned in 7 years. And I am fairly certain it's haunted by oven monsters.

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RE: Favorite way to degrade a sub - 11/9/2012 6:50:07 AM   
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If I am really wanting to make them feel worthless I tell them I will make them start voting Republican...

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RE: Favorite way to degrade a sub - 11/9/2012 8:15:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Footstoolnyc

You're all vanilla.


This is funny. Is "vanilla" the new insult?

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RE: Favorite way to degrade a sub - 11/26/2012 2:58:05 AM   
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As a sub, I love this. I find it a huge turn on to be made to do things that embarrass me or are "wrong." I like the idea of a dom "allowing" another person to see or touch me without my consent, without even pretending I would have an opinion on the matter, like a possession, and then maybe discussing me, how I look or feel, right in front of me. I like being made to parrot embarrassing statements and to ask for inappropriate/painful things. It's the control, or lack thereof, that being treated in such a degrading way indicates that is intoxicating.

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RE: Favorite way to degrade a sub - 11/29/2012 3:07:57 AM   
Rastimmipitwax


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ORIGINAL: Footstoolnyc

Not to be disrespectful but it means you are not a total bottom.


Obvious passive-aggressive troll is obvious.

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RE: Favorite way to degrade a sub - 11/29/2012 6:30:23 AM   
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It depends, for punishment purposes sometimes it is necessary to break down your sub but only if your gonna take the time to put them back together. But humiliation fun to me on both sides. I enjoy do things that humiliate both of us at the same time.

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RE: Favorite way to degrade a sub - 11/30/2012 11:51:54 AM   
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I like to be treated like a pig and called a pig. It degrades and humiliates me.I also like a young Mistress to use me & make fun of me.

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RE: Favorite way to degrade a sub - 11/30/2012 12:53:42 PM   
theRose4U


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If I'm REQUIRED by the one weel twue way to treat what's mine like garbage I'll just turn in my keys! Humiliation for someone to feel good about themselves as my property isn't worth it...the therapy bills for maintenance wouldn't be worth it.

quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
quote:

ORIGINAL: Kaliko
But if you think that one has to be degraded or humiliated in order to learn respect


I'll also add that if you need to degrade or humiliate someone else to feel respected you have so major issues.




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RE: Favorite way to degrade a sub - 11/30/2012 7:35:47 PM   
SeekingTrinity


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Footstoolnyc

You're all vanilla. I am a total bottom and I respect a dom who will totally degrade and humiliate me. I want a master who will show me who's boss, no matter what. I need a man who can break my will. The more this happens, the more respect I have for him. Slavery is slavery. Physical and emotional. You are either into or not. As a bottom, there is no negotiation. This is the definition of a slave.


Wrong! Thats YOUR definition of a slave. And no one said your way was the right way. Its right for you...and thats about as far as it goes.

I dont have to break someone down to get them to respect me. I dont have to tear them apart to bend to my will. I dont have to be a total asshole to get respect from those who serve me. I dont have to degrade and humiliate to get my way. Im just me and it works just fine.

If it takes this much work just to get you to behave like a slave, maybe you just arent slave enough? Just sayin'

< Message edited by SeekingTrinity -- 11/30/2012 7:46:55 PM >

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RE: Favorite way to degrade a sub - 12/2/2012 8:38:18 AM   
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I'm really not comfortable with or likely to associate with a submissive that craves degradation.

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RE: Favorite way to degrade a sub - 12/2/2012 8:51:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: theRose4U
I love that its ALWAYS ones with less than 20 posts that come up with the onw weel & twue way to "educate us"...ummm yeah moving on!

Well yes but what would we all DO without these paragons of wisdom to help guide us to the true path? We'd be lost!


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RE: Favorite way to degrade a sub - 12/2/2012 12:44:56 PM   
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I'm really not comfortable with or likely to associate with a submissive that craves degradation.

Not me. I love degrading sluts. That goes pretty high on my list of things that make my dick hard and spine tingle.

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RE: Favorite way to degrade a sub - 12/8/2012 6:54:17 PM   
bonnefilleMargot


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I'm a sub who loves to be degraded in the right situation, I love the mental intensity and the primal feelings it brings out in both parties.

That said, there is no way I would want to participate in it unless it's with a man I am very close to and know very very well and he obviously has to have a really good understanding of the psychology of playing in this way.

Also I will suggest that one person's deeply degrading act, is another person's slightly humiliating play, and is another person's pleasurable bonding activity.

Margot

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RE: Favorite way to degrade a sub - 12/12/2012 12:18:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SchrodingerSock

I'd get her to clean my oven. Which, me being man, hasn't been cleaned in 7 years. And I am fairly certain it's haunted by oven monsters.


jeeeeesus that's twisted!

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