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devils -> Need a health answer(about sircumcision) (6/13/2006 9:01:27 AM)
Hi, i am just curious(and concerned)! I'am young and new to this...but my question doesn't have to do with BDSM! any way here is my question: I am sircumcised(since i was born) and when i masturdate i almost never lubricate i just use a cloth, my blouse for instence, so i was wondering if this makes me(or has made me already)less sensitive in that area? And an other question i just thought of....do you prefer sircumcised or non-sircumcised penises and why/why not?

meatcleaver -> RE: Need a health answer(about sircumcision) (6/13/2006 9:17:46 AM)
The whole point of circumcision is to make men less sensitive. There is a passage in the Old Testament which I can't remember now but I'll look it up and come back, which makes it quite clear what the purpose of circumcision is for. The foreskin helps stimulation and prevents cauterisation. Most medical associations in European countries view circumcision as unnecessary mutilation. In Britain you can't get circumcision on the healthcare unless it is medically necessary because the British Medical Board are part of the European concensus. Here are some sites where there is good information. http://www.circumcision.org/ http://www.cirp.org/ http://www.fathermag.com/health/boy-care/boy-care.shtml

Fawne -> RE: Need a health answer(about sircumcision) (6/13/2006 11:26:40 AM)
I always wonder why in the US, male circumcision has been the norm. I thought it was for health and cleanliness in ancient times - where bathing was not always practical. Like the Jewish kosher requirements on this and food and health. What if female circumcision was widely practiced in this country; how would we react? Would early feminists have protested? Abolish it as brutality? As a person who is more spiritual than religous ( in any dogmatic sense) - why would God, nature put it there in the first place if there was no use? Like protection from the elements and abrasion? As a woman who loves men; i have no personal preference. But, if I had a baby boy, I'd think long and deep ( oops Freudian slip!) on it!

enigmabrat -> RE: Need a health answer(about sircumcision) (6/13/2006 11:30:19 AM)
Honestly it is a health issue at least today it is and is why most do it...

meatcleaver -> RE: Need a health answer(about sircumcision) (6/13/2006 11:35:54 AM)
It is often said that circumcision leads to less penile cancer, the British Medical Assoc. said this is an old wives tale and that it is nonsense but circumcision does cause a lot of uninary, erectile and other complications which is why they want it outlawing in Britain. That isn't going to happen because no government wants to be accused of discriminating against religious minorities. Over 90% of men in Britain are uncircumcised, circumcision being mainly practiced here by Jews and Muslims.

sabswife -> RE: Need a health answer(about sircumcision) (6/13/2006 11:40:22 AM)
well very bluntly in reference to circ or uncirc men.. its not about the attachments-- its how the tool is used [;)]

Arpig -> RE: Need a health answer(about sircumcision) (6/13/2006 11:48:37 AM)
I am circumcised, and personally I am completely satisfied with my degree of sensitivity.....it feels damn good, thank you very much [:)]

darkinshadows -> RE: Need a health answer(about sircumcision) (6/13/2006 11:49:17 AM)
In Judaism - the book of Genesis (17: 10-14), circumcision represents the covenant made by God with Abraham and his descendants. There is also a slight minority of circumcision in Islam. The main reason for male circumcision is for health reasons. Phimosis, paraphimosis, and balanoposthitis are (mostly) childhood problems and require the procedure. Certain STDs are more prevelent in non circumcized males but theres no proof that they are more likely to transmit. The foreskin contains many nerve endings which aid stimulation, males who have undergone circumcision have reported decreased sensitivity. In the UK, it isn't common practise to circumcise - not sure about the states these days. Preference, I enjoy both - although do admit to a very slight preference to circumcision, simply for asthetic and ease (during oral), at least for me. Peace and Rapture

meatcleaver -> RE: Need a health answer(about sircumcision) (6/13/2006 11:56:39 AM)
I got my thinking crossed about circumcision in the Bible. I was thinking of this quote by the Jewish philosopher Moses Maimonides (1135-1204) aka Rambam. "To the totality of purposes of the perfect Law there belong the abandonment, depreciation, and restraint of desires in so far as possible. You know already that most of the lusts and licentiousness of the multitude consist in an appetite for eating, drinking and sexual intercourse. ... Similarly with regard to circumcision, one of the reasons for it is, in my opinion, the wish to bring about a decrease in sexual intercourse and a weakening of the organ in question, so that this activity be diminished and the organ be in as quiet a state as possible. ... The Sages, may their memory be blessed, have explicitly stated: It is hard for a woman with whom an uncircumcised man has had sexual intercourse to separate from him. In my opinion this is the strongest of the reasons for circumcision."

nycdoll -> RE: Need a health answer(about sircumcision) (6/13/2006 12:03:16 PM)
When sex become just about sex, then your reply may hold true. Even rapists can't be stopped on libido alone, if at all. Slutty men certainly aren't going to be stopped because they are cicumsized. Most jewish laws are for hygiene and healthier lifestyle reasons. Besides, jewish men are more fun than christian men anyday. IMHO.

meatcleaver -> RE: Need a health answer(about sircumcision) (6/13/2006 12:09:31 PM)
I wasn't trying to insult any religion but if I have succeeded in insulting you, I can't say I care. Slutty men need slutty women need slutty men need slutty women etc etc. I really don't have a preference between Jewish men or Christian men and since you appear to be an expert on the matter, you must have had numerous slutty nights yourself.

darkinshadows -> RE: Need a health answer(about sircumcision) (6/13/2006 12:10:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: nycdoll When sex become just about sex, then your reply may hold true. Even rapists can't be stopped on libido alone, if at all. Slutty men certainly aren't going to be stopped because they are cicumsized. Most jewish laws are for hygiene and healthier lifestyle reasons. Besides, jewish men are more fun than christian men anyday. IMHO. In Judasim, circumcision is not for health reasons at all. It was the covenant between God with Abraham and his descendants. Seed for circumcision. Peace and Rapture

Chaingang -> RE: Need a health answer(about sircumcision) (6/13/2006 12:19:50 PM)
Circumcision is mutilation. That anyone would circumcise a child seems extremely barbaric to me. Even a ritual circumcision can be performed to be more ritual than circumcision - so this isn't about denying religious customs as there are no hard and fast rules about how those rituals 'must' be performed. If a man wants to engage in body modification as an adult that's his choice to make. But to take that choice away from him as a child is criminal and abusive. The foreskin is part of a man's sex organ - it's supposed to be there. How would women feel about losing portions of their labia or vulva? Oh, female circumcision (aka "clitoridotomy") is wrong - okay. Well, how about we start respecting a man's right to his undamaged sex organ also?

darkinshadows -> RE: Need a health answer(about sircumcision) (6/13/2006 12:28:49 PM)
I do happen to agree with you Chaingang. Religious circumcision is child abuse. But it is also important to remember many children are circumcised due to medical conditions also. *FGM* *CIRC* Peace and Rapture

meatcleaver -> RE: Need a health answer(about sircumcision) (6/13/2006 1:22:21 PM)
There are very few circumcisions due to medical reasons, at least in the UK where the NHS will on circumcise on health grounds.

HouseofBear -> RE: Need a health answer(about sircumcision) (6/13/2006 1:30:10 PM)
Actually, having worked on a postpartum unit, I noticed within the last few years the number of circumcisions have been greatly decreasing, at least on the units I worked on. Ursa

thetammyjo -> RE: Need a health answer(about sircumcision) (6/13/2006 2:09:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arpig I am circumcised, and personally I am completely satisfied with my degree of sensitivity.....it feels damn good, thank you very much [:)] smile The men I've been sexual with have never complained about not feeling enough. Perhaps I've picked men who are more sensitive? My father wasn't circumcised until he was in his 30s. He's told me that their (my parents) sex life improved a lot afterwards. He made the choice for health reasons actually my mother's health because he'd never been taught proper cleaning techniques and she was getting infections over and over again. The doctor they went to examined them both, ran tests and said "Clean it or lose it." Rather than learn them, he decided to just have it removed.

mskathy39 -> RE: Need a health answer(about sircumcision) (6/13/2006 2:20:54 PM)
chaingang, remmoving the clitoris is completely different than removing useless skin. not only does the removal of the foreskin aid in cleanliness(I WOULD NEVER GIVE HEAD TO A COCK WITH A FORESKIN!!!!!) it allows the male to have less sensitivity in some cases, more in others and makes it a damned site more pretty than one of those hose looking things. It does not remove all sensation and much of the desire that removing the clitoris is designed to do.

Rule -> RE: Need a health answer(about sircumcision) (6/13/2006 2:24:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: devils do you prefer circumcised or non-circumcised penises and why/why not? Non-mutilated penises. Why? Strange as it may sound because when promiscuous they increase the risk of veneral diseases. Weird? Yes, the Law of Murphy is weird. Read what St. Paul wrote in his letter Romans 2.25-2.29: For circumcision indeed profiteth, if thou be a doer of the law: but if thou be a transgressor of the law, thy circumcision is become uncircumcision. If therefore the uncircumcision keep the ordinances of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be reckoned for circumcision? and shall not the uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfill the law, judge thee, who with the letter and circumcision art a transgressor of the law? For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision which is outward in the flesh: but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

sillysub183 -> RE: Need a health answer(about sircumcision) (6/13/2006 2:24:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: enigmabrat Honestly it is a health issue at least today it is and is why most do it... Where is your evidence? Do you have a medical degree? Have you at least read an article to substantiate your claim? If you have read all of the posts you will see that is not true. As stated before, there is actually a decline in the practice in the United States and many European countries do not automatically circumcise male infants. Once again you post something as fact without a shred of evidence to support it. If you prefer a circumcised penis that is fine but don't get all indignant and present opinion as fact!

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