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RE: Is it possible to be too submissive? - 10/3/2012 9:55:39 AM   
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I'm not really talking about sexual practices because they're usually clearly defined on profiles (hard limits etc) but can a willingness to please a Domme in every other aspect of a relationship be a turn off, even if she believes it to be genuine?



Just on the face of what's asked here: for me, no. The more someone aims to please and submit to me, the happier I am.

But, with that said, I **do** have my own preferences in **style** of submission. I like someone who has themselves well together in life (friends, income, interests outside BDSM), someone who is service-oriented, and someone who shows initiative (after they get to know me and my likes/dislikes will serve or submit in that way without me having to always request something or dictate it every time).

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RE: Is it possible to be too submissive? - 10/3/2012 9:58:09 AM   
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To whine is to complain, the post you've kept is entirely criticism and in my opinion well deserved. As for women paying attention to the way men behave, do you speak for all women? The type of women who would be put off by this wouldn't interest me anyway, not in the least, and as for the opinions of Dom men, why would I care?
And even if this is utter catastrophe for me, this site isn't my entire life a profile can be deleted, an new one set up, there are 1000's of BDSM sites.
I couldn't care less about the kind of people who would hold crazyml in any kind of high regard, a filter can work in both directions.
And finally every tantrum I've ever witnessed has involved bad language, used increasingly by crazyml, not at all by me.

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RE: Is it possible to be too submissive? - 10/3/2012 10:02:59 AM   
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Whiny, defensive, entitled behaviour seems to be a quality of yours, and if it's brought you social success, brilliant! Good luck with whatever you have going on there.

No, I do not speak for "all women", but I am a dominant woman of many years experience. I think I can safely say what traits in a submissive are pleasing, and which are grating.



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RE: Is it possible to be too submissive? - 10/3/2012 10:07:15 AM   
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wah, fucking wah fucking wah.

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RE: Is it possible to be too submissive? - 10/3/2012 10:13:59 AM   
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RE: Is it possible to be too submissive? Yes, or no, depending on who you are with.
It is also possible to be too ignorant to accept the advice you willingly came here seeking.
I wonder, if Crazyml were a female dominant, would you feel as offended by the post? I think not.
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ORIGINAL: Neckbone
And finally every tantrum I've ever witnessed has involved bad language, used increasingly by crazyml, not at all by me.

Does this mean you have no interest in participating in his Come To Poppa scenario?
Because if so, I will gladly sit in for you and give him all the attention you claim he is seeking here.


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RE: Is it possible to be too submissive? - 10/3/2012 10:30:53 AM   
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quote:

can a willingness to please a Domme in every other aspect of a relationship be a turn off, even if she believes it to be genuine?

Like someone mentioned earlier I come from a time when dominant and submission magazine and papers were hidden beneath the counter or on a shelf behind the counter.

During that time it was not at all unusual have $1,800.00 phone bills and after AOL installed dial-up the phone bills rose significantly but the end result was spending the next 18 years with the same dominant woman based on clearly defined rules and regulations. So what I am trying to say is, question the woman you are involved with, be open honest specific and prepared to walk away if her answers do not offer you the ability to retain self-respect, dignity and honor.

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RE: Is it possible to be too submissive? - 10/3/2012 10:32:28 AM   
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Excellent post, Rainwalker!

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RE: Is it possible to be too submissive? - 10/3/2012 11:04:14 AM   
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I'm utterly defensive around other men, There's very few that I like, and I'm a huge attention seeker, what you've failed to pick up on is the ego the size of a planet and as for the sense of entitlement, my God yes! The social scene I've had going on for a number of years is live music, and I'm REALLY good at it. All of the women who find these traits appealing (the "I like the bad boys " crowd) are completely wrong for me, I have no interest in them, none. Occasionally I meet a woman who turns all of that on it's head, they know who they're looking at and how to deal with it effortlessly. and they're usually at the least into FLRs and without exception nothing to do with a scene, nothing to do with other Dommes and like me, couldn't care less what the herd thinks.
Any primary school teacher will tell you that a tantrum usually involves swearing, and from my perspective I seem to have sparked a huge tantrum in the crazyml fan base, again if it wasn't so sad it would be funny.

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RE: Is it possible to be too submissive? - 10/3/2012 11:09:39 AM   
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so, how long have you been a homophobic/mysogynistyc little boy?


has it been life long, or later onset?

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RE: Is it possible to be too submissive? - 10/3/2012 11:09:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Neckbone

I'm not really talking about sexual practices because they're usually clearly defined on profiles (hard limits etc) but can a willingness to please a Domme in every other aspect of a relationship be a turn off, even if she believes it to be genuine?

It would not be a turn off for me, in fact, it's a requirement. I'm going to be the one telling you when and where and if I want you out of my hair, I'll send you to the bathroom to scrub the toilet or something. If I want you quiet, I'll tell you to be quiet or gag you depending on my mood. In other words, for me.. you're going to be doing exactly what I want you to do and what I think is best for our growth. If you are bugging me, doing the groveling thing and it's annoying or whatever, I'll simply put a stop to it. See, you use the word 'willingness' which is not a demand to perform but rather an acknowledged acceptance of who holds the power and that works for me.

In a nutshell, what you are 'giving' to me or cedeing to me is your time and I would direct that time as I see fit. I might tell you to use that time to study, to go have some fun, to do some work or to serve as my target.. so, if that's your thing, find someone like me and if that's not your thing, find someone who is not like me.

It always seems to boil down to compatibility. (and a good deal of luck finding it.. luck is highly underrated!)

(buncha generic yous and stuff in that post)

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RE: Is it possible to be too submissive? - 10/3/2012 11:10:49 AM   
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I love you, Bita~!~ *hugs and love to you and Himself*

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RE: Is it possible to be too submissive? - 10/3/2012 11:11:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Neckbone

I'm utterly defensive around other men, There's very few that I like, and I'm a huge attention seeker, what you've failed to pick up on is the ego the size of a planet and as for the sense of entitlement, my God yes! The social scene I've had going on for a number of years is live music, and I'm REALLY good at it. All of the women who find these traits appealing (the "I like the bad boys " crowd) are completely wrong for me, I have no interest in them, none. Occasionally I meet a woman who turns all of that on it's head, they know who they're looking at and how to deal with it effortlessly. and they're usually at the least into FLRs and without exception nothing to do with a scene, nothing to do with other Dommes and like me, couldn't care less what the herd thinks.
Any primary school teacher will tell you that a tantrum usually involves swearing, and from my perspective I seem to have sparked a huge tantrum in the crazyml fan base, again if it wasn't so sad it would be funny.


I was a primary school teacher in my first career, and I do not associate swearing with tantrums.

I have not "failed to pick up" on anything, ta.

We see many, many whiny entitled people like yourself here. Generally they're a bit...younger. So, please let me explain to you that you are a stranger on the internet, and as such, you do not have the power to affect our lives in a meaningful way. We (and I safely speak for the other board regulars here) will call anyone out on their nonsense, including each other. You have not "upset" or "offended" us, and what you see as a tantrum is us MOCKING you for your immaturity and refusal to listen to the advice that you came here seeking.

If you have met women who enjoy taking on children in the guise of men, then seek out others like them. Dominance takes many forms. I am going to text my Darling now and tell him that he is looking even better to me than normal.


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RE: Is it possible to be too submissive? - 10/3/2012 11:13:36 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus


quote:

ORIGINAL: Neckbone

I'm utterly defensive around other men, There's very few that I like, and I'm a huge attention seeker, what you've failed to pick up on is the ego the size of a planet and as for the sense of entitlement, my God yes! The social scene I've had going on for a number of years is live music, and I'm REALLY good at it. All of the women who find these traits appealing (the "I like the bad boys " crowd) are completely wrong for me, I have no interest in them, none. Occasionally I meet a woman who turns all of that on it's head, they know who they're looking at and how to deal with it effortlessly. and they're usually at the least into FLRs and without exception nothing to do with a scene, nothing to do with other Dommes and like me, couldn't care less what the herd thinks.
Any primary school teacher will tell you that a tantrum usually involves swearing, and from my perspective I seem to have sparked a huge tantrum in the crazyml fan base, again if it wasn't so sad it would be funny.


I was a primary school teacher in my first career, and I do not associate swearing with tantrums.

I have not "failed to pick up" on anything, ta.

We see many, many whiny entitled people like yourself here. Generally they're a bit...younger. So, please let me explain to you that you are a stranger on the internet, and as such, you do not have the power to affect our lives in a meaningful way. We (and I safely speak for the other board regulars here) will call anyone out on their nonsense, including each other. You have not "upset" or "offended" us, and what you see as a tantrum is us MOCKING you for your immaturity and refusal to listen to the advice that you came here seeking.

If you have met women who enjoy taking on children in the guise of men, then seek out others like them. Dominance takes many forms. I am going to text my Darling now and tell him that he is looking even better to me than normal.




this is one of the reasons why, Hibbie, I often wish you would consider girly sex.

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RE: Is it possible to be too submissive? - 10/3/2012 11:15:18 AM   
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Alas, sister mine, girly sex does nothing for me. Girly ROMANCE, hells yeah!

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RE: Is it possible to be too submissive? - 10/3/2012 11:17:02 AM   
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but do we not already HAVE girly romance?

or maybe it's in my wishful dreams.....

*scritchies to da Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrdie*

*snorgles to to you*

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RE: Is it possible to be too submissive? - 10/3/2012 11:54:18 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus


quote:

ORIGINAL: Neckbone

I'm utterly defensive around other men, There's very few that I like, and I'm a huge attention seeker, what you've failed to pick up on is the ego the size of a planet and as for the sense of entitlement, my God yes! The social scene I've had going on for a number of years is live music, and I'm REALLY good at it. All of the women who find these traits appealing (the "I like the bad boys " crowd) are completely wrong for me, I have no interest in them, none. Occasionally I meet a woman who turns all of that on it's head, they know who they're looking at and how to deal with it effortlessly. and they're usually at the least into FLRs and without exception nothing to do with a scene, nothing to do with other Dommes and like me, couldn't care less what the herd thinks.
Any primary school teacher will tell you that a tantrum usually involves swearing, and from my perspective I seem to have sparked a huge tantrum in the crazyml fan base, again if it wasn't so sad it would be funny.


I am a mother to two, and I do not associate swearing with tantrums.

I have not "failed to pick up" on anything, ta.

We see many, many whiny entitled people like yourself here. Generally they're a bit...younger. So, please let me explain to you that you are a stranger on the internet, and as such, you do not have the power to affect our lives in a meaningful way. We (and I safely speak for the other board regulars here) will call anyone out on their nonsense, including each other. You have not "upset" or "offended" us, and what you see as a tantrum is us MOCKING you for your immaturity and refusal to listen to the advice that you came here seeking.
If you have met women who enjoy taking on children in the guise of men, then seek out others like them. Dominance takes many forms. I am going to text Generic Dude now and tell him that he is looking even better to me than normal.



Aside from the bits I bolded that I've switched to fit ME........LadyHib wrote my thoughts perfectly.

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RE: Is it possible to be too submissive? - 10/3/2012 11:55:43 AM   
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More evidence for the femdom hive mind...

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RE: Is it possible to be too submissive? - 10/3/2012 12:22:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Neckbone

I'm utterly defensive around other men, There's very few that I like, and I'm a huge attention seeker, what you've failed to pick up on is the ego the size of a planet and as for the sense of entitlement, my God yes! The social scene I've had going on for a number of years is live music, and I'm REALLY good at it. All of the women who find these traits appealing (the "I like the bad boys " crowd) are completely wrong for me, I have no interest in them, none. Occasionally I meet a woman who turns all of that on it's head, they know who they're looking at and how to deal with it effortlessly. and they're usually at the least into FLRs and without exception nothing to do with a scene, nothing to do with other Dommes and like me, couldn't care less what the herd thinks.
Any primary school teacher will tell you that a tantrum usually involves swearing, and from my perspective I seem to have sparked a huge tantrum in the crazyml fan base, again if it wasn't so sad it would be funny.

That bit about being defensive around other men? It shows. In fact, Crazyml was the only person you took a swipe at and I already had My suspicions that it was because he was the only (obvious) male on the thread at the time, and a Dominant male at that.

You may not care what the herd thinks. I generally don't, either. I pretty much stand by My own opinions and don't need to bring friends, or socks, to support them.

As for the language, well, I couldn't really tell you how many times I dropped the f-bomb yesterday, and frankly, don't care. You're not on the playground with your primary students. Instead, you are dealing with adults who use adult language. If you don't like Mine, I'd suggest you hide Me. I don't intentionally use adult language to call people names, but if you can't hack the crude word or two, you may not want to deal with Me.

With all of this in mind, what I get from the above is that you act out to get attention. Where I come from in kink, the nice term for that is called a brat. The not so nice way to describe it is acting out due to inferiority complex. I'm glad that you find women who are into that, though it somewhat makes Me wonder why you created the post. I can tell you that I'm not one of those Dominant women that you find that would put up with it.

Please do enjoy your day.




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RE: Is it possible to be too submissive? - 10/3/2012 2:23:14 PM   
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Wouldn't you rather folks were seeing you being a good person or even that sense of humor that I just saw on another thread?


Hey cool! I managed to get a laugh out of a lady without taking my clothes off!

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RE: Is it possible to be too submissive? - 10/3/2012 5:16:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Neckbone

To whine is to complain, the post you've kept is entirely criticism and in my opinion well deserved. As for women paying attention to the way men behave, do you speak for all women? The type of women who would be put off by this wouldn't interest me anyway, not in the least,




Oh, ok, I think the best thing for you to do then is to go back to the other side and flaunt your glorious battles in your profile or a journal entry and see what bites because I can tell you now, I am speaking for all the ladies here on this side when I say we're unimpressed.

And then you can crawl back a few weeks later to whine and bitch about the number of Pros and scammers on this site because that's pretty much the only women you're gonna be left with when you exclude those types who would be put off by this behaviour. I can't promise we won't be mean about it though.

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