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RE: 7.8% and I have a bridge to sell too - 10/5/2012 7:29:22 AM   
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The crash of '29' didn`t get fixed in three years and most folks acknowledge that this one won`t get fixed in three years either.Even you cons know this(but won`t admit it.)


Greetings,

But wait, wait...are we in a crash?

OH wait, there is that MSNBC word they like to use, "most", as if that means something, as if there is some poll out there that statistically presents this as a substantiated fact.

No? Well, since we are not in a crash then "most" of us think we can get this fixed in three years. Why not?


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RE: 7.8% and I have a bridge to sell too - 10/5/2012 7:35:37 AM   
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Gee you would think that everyone would be happy things are turning around, but NOOOOOO....it's only good when the USA fails under Obama according to some


Greetings,

I' don't understand this thought. Does anyone actually believe the Right wants the U.S.A. to "fail" under any circumstance? I, speaking for the Right and I can because I am Right, do not hate Obama, he is a brilliant professor and a sorta ok senator and the worst President ever, he lost the debate by a margin larger than any President in history. We are frankly scared he will do something we may never recover from.

Well wishes,
Arturas

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RE: 7.8% and I have a bridge to sell too - 10/5/2012 7:37:18 AM   
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That if the report was a bad one......you and the other "patriots' would be trumpeting it.


Only in that the economy is not improving. It's not a partisan thing. Math is not political.


The crash of '29' didn`t get fixed in three years and most folks acknowledge that this one won`t get fixed in three years either.Even you cons know this(but won`t admit it.)


That's assuming government intervention is the way to go. It isn't, but that's not the topic.




It is improving though.

True,not as fast as everyone would like but it is.

Having the guys who caused the worst crash since '29' complain that it`s not getting fixed fast enough is a little beyond ridiculous......

Hey republicans......the blood is still on your hands......tho dry by now.....

Normal folks don`t trust the guy in the shiny black van offering us a ride but won`t tell us where, for what and what will happen when we get there......it`s creepy





Trust me......now get in and shut up..........

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RE: 7.8% and I have a bridge to sell too - 10/5/2012 7:40:38 AM   
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What, exactly, does 15 IQ points get you? What is the IQ, and what does it mean in real terms?
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Welcome to the boards, btw. You'll fit in just fine.



What does 15 points get you?!?!?
It's the difference between $5k,, $10k, and $20k a year in many scholorship programs for college.
1 iq point is the difference between being a slow learner and mentally challenged
1 iq point can keep you from the McArthur Genius Grant
Its the difference between a school noticing a good student and an actually gifted child.

Your other question;
IQ tests measure a persons abilities in Mathematics, Logical Reasoning, Analytical reasoning and spacial dynamics. Being able to recognize logic and weed through useless or misleading information.

Also, thanks for the welcome, noone else has yet to be so nice, sarcastically or otherwise.

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RE: 7.8% and I have a bridge to sell too - 10/5/2012 7:40:57 AM   
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It is improving though.


Greetings,

By what measure? If you say GDP, no. If you say employment, that is, more people working than last month, no. If you say employment outlook, no. If you say energy costs, no. If you say quality of life, no. If you say U.S. debt, no.

So, by what measure is the economy improving?

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RE: 7.8% and I have a bridge to sell too - 10/5/2012 7:44:23 AM   
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Hey republicans......the blood is still on your hands......tho dry by now.....


Greetings,

Seriously? You mean the cause of this: the housing bubble? I believe Frank Barney had more to do with that. His legislation forced banks to make sub-prime loans. BTW, did you know the Republicans were the champions of Civil Rights and the Dems were against it in the 60s? Just thought I would bust your fantasy about the Dems.

So, I see no "blood" on Republican's hands.

Live well,
Arturas

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RE: 7.8% and I have a bridge to sell too - 10/5/2012 7:51:40 AM   
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Greetings,

The 7.8 is bogus. What, after months and months and months of over 8.2 percent unemployment suddenly the month before the election it drops a full five points or so? Sure. There's the problem, the Obama administration thinks Americans are idiots.

Clearly released to get Obama under that "magic" 8.0 percent mark right before the election. It will be revised upward over 8 percent and maybe even before the election and the focus then for no-spin news organizations will be to get that out and hammer another Obama administration deception, like the 9/11 embassy sacking due to a bad video.

Live well,
Arturas.

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RE: 7.8% and I have a bridge to sell too - 10/5/2012 7:54:41 AM   
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Arturas, the left is simply in denial of everything.

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RE: 7.8% and I have a bridge to sell too - 10/5/2012 7:59:02 AM   
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Hey republicans......the blood is still on your hands......tho dry by now.....


Greetings,

Seriously? You mean the cause of this: the housing bubble? I believe Frank Barney had more to do with that. His legislation forced banks to make sub-prime loans. BTW, did you know the Republicans were the champions of Civil Rights and the Dems were against it in the 60s? Just thought I would bust your fantasy about the Dems.

So, I see no "blood" on Republican's hands.

Live well,
Arturas



Not my words, but those of the Boston Globe, September 28, 2008. Besides those of us who paid attention back when this started know this to be true:

The roots of this crisis go back to the Carter administration. That was when government officials, egged on by left-wing activists, began accusing mortgage lenders of racism and "redlining" because urban blacks were being denied mortgages at a higher rate than suburban whites.

The pressure to make more loans to minorities (read: to borrowers with weak credit histories) became relentless. Congress passed the Community Reinvestment Act, empowering regulators to punish banks that failed to "meet the credit needs" of "low-income, minority, and distressed neighborhoods." Lenders responded by loosening their underwriting standards and making increasingly shoddy loans. The two government-chartered mortgage finance firms, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, encouraged this "subprime" lending by authorizing ever more "flexible" criteria by which high-risk borrowers could be qualified for home loans, and then buying up the questionable mortgages that ensued.

All this was justified as a means of increasing homeownership among minorities and the poor. Affirmative-action policies trumped sound business practices. A manual issued by the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston advised mortgage lenders to disregard financial common sense. "Lack of credit history should not be seen as a negative factor," the Fed's guidelines instructed. Lenders were directed to accept welfare payments and unemployment benefits as "valid income sources" to qualify for a mortgage. Failure to comply could mean a lawsuit.

As long as housing prices kept rising, the illusion that all this was good public policy could be sustained. But it didn't take a financial whiz to recognize that a day of reckoning would come. "What does it mean when Boston banks start making many more loans to minorities?" I asked in this space in 1995. "Most likely, that they are knowingly approving risky loans in order to get the feds and the activists off their backs . . . When the coming wave of foreclosures rolls through the inner city, which of today's self-congratulating bankers, politicians, and regulators plans to take the credit?"

Frank doesn't. But his fingerprints are all over this fiasco. Time and time again, Frank insisted that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were in good shape. Five years ago, for example, when the Bush administration proposed much tighter regulation of the two companies, Frank was adamant that "these two entities, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are not facing any kind of financial crisis." When the White House warned of "systemic risk for our financial system" unless the mortgage giants were curbed, Frank complained that the administration was more concerned about financial safety than about housing.


There are dirty blood stains on the Dems hands.

Live Well,
Arturas

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RE: 7.8% and I have a bridge to sell too - 10/5/2012 8:00:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Arturas

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Hey republicans......the blood is still on your hands......tho dry by now.....


Greetings,

Seriously? You mean the cause of this: the housing bubble? I believe Frank Barney had more to do with that. His legislation forced banks to make sub-prime loans. BTW, did you know the Republicans were the champions of Civil Rights and the Dems were against it in the 60s? Just thought I would bust your fantasy about the Dems.

So, I see no "blood" on Republican's hands.

Live well,
Arturas



Hmmm.. because of the Southern Democrats who didnt want things changed... Like Strom Thurmond.. who quickly changed party afterwards.

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Thurmond was increasingly at odds with the national Democratic Party, some of whose leaders were supporting the civil rights movement led by African Americans in the South seeking enforcement of their right as citizens to vote and an end to racial segregation. On September 16, 1964, he switched his party affiliation to the Republican Party, which was seeking to revive its presence in the South by appealing to conservative voters.


This pattern showed clearly in the House vote. Northern Democrats backed the Civil Rights Act by a margin even larger than that of Republicans -- 141 for, just four against -- while Southern Democrats were strongly opposed, by a margin of 11 yeas to 92 nays.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/may/25/michael-steele/steele-says-gop-fought-hard-civil-rights-bills-196/

Try a better issue instead of racism for this argument.

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RE: 7.8% and I have a bridge to sell too - 10/5/2012 8:02:09 AM   
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I read a piece yesterday titled "Obama`s next big hurdle,Friday`s Jobs Report".

I thought,if it`s a bad one....Mitten`s and friends would jump on it and parade around and such.

And if it was a positive report....the lunatic fringe would call it a lie,bullshit etc....

Damm Tazzy, I`m practically psychotic............err, I mean psychic....

It must be depressingly awful to have as your only hope of winning ......... the hope that our economy gets worse.

Almost as if these "hopers" weren`t Americans............ 

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RE: 7.8% and I have a bridge to sell too - 10/5/2012 8:06:05 AM   
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Hey republicans......the blood is still on your hands......tho dry by now.....


Greetings,

Seriously? You mean the cause of this: the housing bubble? I believe Frank Barney had more to do with that. His legislation forced banks to make sub-prime loans. BTW, did you know the Republicans were the champions of Civil Rights and the Dems were against it in the 60s? Just thought I would bust your fantasy about the Dems.

So, I see no "blood" on Republican's hands.

Live well,
Arturas



Hmmm.. because of the Southern Democrats who didnt want things changed... Like Strom Thurmond.. who quickly changed party afterwards.

quote:

Thurmond was increasingly at odds with the national Democratic Party, some of whose leaders were supporting the civil rights movement led by African Americans in the South seeking enforcement of their right as citizens to vote and an end to racial segregation. On September 16, 1964, he switched his party affiliation to the Republican Party, which was seeking to revive its presence in the South by appealing to conservative voters.


This pattern showed clearly in the House vote. Northern Democrats backed the Civil Rights Act by a margin even larger than that of Republicans -- 141 for, just four against -- while Southern Democrats were strongly opposed, by a margin of 11 yeas to 92 nays.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/may/25/michael-steele/steele-says-gop-fought-hard-civil-rights-bills-196/

Try a better issue instead of racism for this argument.


More alternate universe building based on a single event. Let's try truth. Brooks new organization, 2008:


[Republicans should openly brag that it they were the anti-slavery party and the one that introduced civil rights amendments to the Constitution in a genuine effort to help former slaves establish themselves as self-governing individuals with the same inalienable rights as every other American citizen.

It was because of the Republicans record on slavery and black rights Democrats sneeringly calling them the "colored people's Party". That is something Republicans have every right to be proud of.

And Republicans should not hesitate to shame Democrats into admitting that theirs was the slavery party, the party of the Ku Klux Klan, of Jim Crow, lynchings, burnings and Senator Robert Byrd. It was Democratic judges in the South who only forty years ago strove to keep blacks in their place and out of the polling booth — not Republicans.

It was Republican Justice Warren, an Eisenhower appointee, who stood up to the South's segregationist politicians, not a Democratic appointed judge. It was Warren's actions that finally brought about the full emancipation of all of America's blacks. And it was a Republican president who backed him.

Republicans have a sterling civil rights record of which they have every reason to be proud. But through the Orwellian twisting of history the Republicans have been successfully labelled as the 'Jim Crow' party. Nevertheless, history is on the Republicans side in the only sense that matters — the truth. All that Republicans have to do is gird their loins and start preaching the gospel as it was originally written.

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RE: 7.8% and I have a bridge to sell too - 10/5/2012 8:09:57 AM   
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Lets see, Old Mitch said when Obama was elected that the most important thing for the GOP was to make sure he was a one term president, .,..Not get the country growing again, Not worried about the 650,000 job losses per month in the months Bush Presidency ended, not ending the war this country was lied to about. NOOOOOOO one term that is the most important thing

Now we get a good jobs report and it's all BS, but when the same agency gave bad employment figures the GOP did nothing but use the data, it can't be both ways, trust the data when is supports your ideals and call the same data source and data BS when it says things are getting better.


Gop elected officials voted against BILLS they wrote, so as they put it Obama would not get credit, really that is what is most important to them...not helping the people of this country but helping their party first

I remember not to long ago when the GOP battle cry was, if you do not support the President and his programs then you are helping the terrorist...

Well it seems the GOP would rather help the terrorist, their words not mine then support this President

So yea, they love their party or the money they make from their party supporters than they do this country

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RE: 7.8% and I have a bridge to sell too - 10/5/2012 8:16:12 AM   
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More alternate universe building based on a single event. Let's try truth. Brooks new organization, 2008:


Hmmm... John Abarr....

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RE: 7.8% and I have a bridge to sell too - 10/5/2012 8:47:09 AM   
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Aww whats a matter yachtie....the whole thing falling apart on you?



You're being hoodwinked.








Who the fuck is jack welsh and why should I care?

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RE: 7.8% and I have a bridge to sell too - 10/5/2012 8:49:14 AM   
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Welch

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RE: 7.8% and I have a bridge to sell too - 10/5/2012 8:59:42 AM   
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What, exactly, does 15 IQ points get you? What is the IQ, and what does it mean in real terms?
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Welcome to the boards, btw. You'll fit in just fine.

What does 15 points get you?!?!?
It's the difference between $5k,, $10k, and $20k a year in many scholorship programs for college.
1 iq point is the difference between being a slow learner and mentally challenged
1 iq point can keep you from the McArthur Genius Grant
Its the difference between a school noticing a good student and an actually gifted child.
Your other question;
IQ tests measure a persons abilities in Mathematics, Logical Reasoning, Analytical reasoning and spacial dynamics. Being able to recognize logic and weed through useless or misleading information.
Also, thanks for the welcome, noone else has yet to be so nice, sarcastically or otherwise.


First I want to say that I wasn't sarcastically welcoming you to the boards. I do prefer Conservatives, but all are welcome by me. You'll find that out the longer you're here. While I do believe you'll fit in just fine, that means different things to different people.

IQ isn't a measure of ability. That would be an abilities test, or an aptitude test. IQ can be used as a predictor. Simply having a high IQ means little if it isn't applied. Sorting people by IQ is about as accurate as using just weight as a predictor for obesity.

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RE: 7.8% and I have a bridge to sell too - 10/5/2012 9:12:02 AM   
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Greetings,

First, let me apologize to all, the free anyway, for perhaps high jacking this thread a little bit. Well, perhaps I had some help.

To get back on track. Here are the facts...

The unemployment rate is now below the magic 8.0 percent.
The unemployed are down 456,000 from last month to get to this 7.whatever number.
The jobs added last month were 114,000.

So, we added 114,000 jobs to reduce the unemployment by 456,000 and according to the White House this is the right direction. Of course I and "many" others are asking, where did the rest of the unemployed go?


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RE: 7.8% and I have a bridge to sell too - 10/5/2012 9:14:28 AM   
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Gee you would think that everyone would be happy things are turning around, but NOOOOOO....it's only good when the USA fails under Obama according to some


Greetings,

I' don't understand this thought. Does anyone actually believe the Right wants the U.S.A. to "fail" under any circumstance? I, speaking for the Right and I can because I am Right, do not hate Obama, he is a brilliant professor and a sorta ok senator and the worst President ever, he lost the debate by a margin larger than any President in history. We are frankly scared he will do something we may never recover from.

Well wishes,
Arturas


Oh yes, I do think that. When the Leader of the party has vast sums of his resources employed in other lands and not benefitting the USA then yes. Republicans hope and pray we go down the tubes.

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RE: 7.8% and I have a bridge to sell too - 10/5/2012 9:44:54 AM   
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Gee you would think that everyone would be happy things are turning around, but NOOOOOO....it's only good when the USA fails under Obama according to some


Greetings,

I' don't understand this thought. Does anyone actually believe the Right wants the U.S.A. to "fail" under any circumstance? I, speaking for the Right and I can because I am Right, do not hate Obama, he is a brilliant professor and a sorta ok senator and the worst President ever, he lost the debate by a margin larger than any President in history. We are frankly scared he will do something we may never recover from.

Well wishes,
Arturas


Oh yes, I do think that. When the Leader of the party has vast sums of his resources employed in other lands and not benefitting the USA then yes. Republicans hope and pray we go down the tubes.

quote:

When the Leader of the party has vast sums of his resources employed in other lands and not benefitting the USA then yes.



Greetings,

He has 74 percent in USA investments and 26 percent in foreign investments; So, most at home and much less overseas. He also pays taxes to the USA for those foreign investments. So this is bad?

Well wishes
Arturas


P.s. I bet you are starting to feel like Obama on Wednesday night.

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