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RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins - 10/11/2012 7:32:32 AM   
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After Gawker published its piece, they spoke to Siegel, who confirmed that he sent the email and that he based it off a chain email that went around before the 2008 elections. "It speaks the truth and it gives [employees] something to think about when they go to the polls," he told Gawker.

coercion is just what people need in their decision to vote who they wish for. NOT


I wonder if a case for plagiarism can be made... of course you have to know who the original author is.

But anyway, it is just an updated version of an Urban Legend... perpetuated by a man rather lacking in imagination and who probably fell victim to Internet Failure to Reflect Syndrome or IFRS (pronounced ifers). A condition in which someone sees something on the internet that produces strong emotion and causes them to furiously pound away on their keyboard as they write (or rewrite) and send off a missive before taking time to consider their actions.

By the way, I just made IFRS up... I'm feeling rather cleaver and smug about it and I hope it catches on so I can bask in people's awe at my cleverness. Then again maybe they won't. Maybe they mock me for pretentiousness and... ah, screw it, they'll love me, I know they'll love me.

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RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins - 10/11/2012 11:00:16 AM   
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Steve Wynn just put on hold a 2 billion dollar casino project in Las Vegas. He can't afford to move forward with the Chosen One as president.



You mean the lack of visitors to vegas had nothing to do with it?

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RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins - 10/11/2012 11:03:51 AM   
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Steve Wynn just put on hold a 2 billion dollar casino project in Las Vegas. He can't afford to move forward with the Chosen One as president.

He put the one in the US on hold because he was too busy opening a Casino in (and shipping jobs to..................guess wherrrrrrreeeeeeeee.................China)

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RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins - 10/11/2012 11:52:20 AM   
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Steve Wynn just put on hold a 2 billion dollar casino project in Las Vegas. He can't afford to move forward with the Chosen One as president.

He put the one in the US on hold because he was too busy opening a Casino in (and shipping jobs to..................guess wherrrrrrreeeeeeeee.................China)


If he builds a casino in China, and I would assume he would use Chinese employees once they were trained, how does this hurt the american job market? I assume you are smart enough to realize that foreign workers also have to have jobs if we hope to sell them goods. And US made goods would have to compete in quality and price for the Chinese to buy. A fact that seems to go over the heads of Union bosses who are still living in the 1940's. Somebody should explain it is a world market now. Or are you saying that people who normally go to Las vegas will now flock to China?

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RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins - 10/11/2012 12:02:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Uh, I am sure you have no credible citations for all this? Since we can look at the world around us and see it is not the case, I think we will indulge in reality.  You may continue to pretend with your demonstrably false fanatsy. 

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RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins - 10/11/2012 12:09:21 PM   
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It would be fucking shit to be working for such a dumbass.



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RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins - 10/11/2012 12:13:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: papassion


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Steve Wynn just put on hold a 2 billion dollar casino project in Las Vegas. He can't afford to move forward with the Chosen One as president.

He put the one in the US on hold because he was too busy opening a Casino in (and shipping jobs to..................guess wherrrrrrreeeeeeeee.................China)


If he builds a casino in China, and I would assume he would use Chinese employees once they were trained, how does this hurt the american job market? I assume you are smart enough to realize that foreign workers also have to have jobs if we hope to sell them goods. And US made goods would have to compete in quality and price for the Chinese to buy. A fact that seems to go over the heads of Union bosses who are still living in the 1940's. Somebody should explain it is a world market now. Or are you saying that people who normally go to Las vegas will now flock to China?

He's already built a couple and he's doing his best to lure international gamers (the big ones) away from Vegas.

http://multivu.prnewswire.com/mnr/wynn/43604/

"I am grateful to the People’s Republic of China and the Government of Macau who gave us this opportunity."

Ain't that cute? Cozying up to the Commies. If it was a Democrat doing that, you'd be calling for him to be tried for treason.

Yes, he IS taking jobs and money outside the US as a huge number of the gamblers there are international travellers and he is trying to lure them to Macau instead of Vegas.

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RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins - 10/11/2012 12:18:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: crazyml

Isn't it a shame that David Siegel is such a shit businessman that he can't run his business properly and profitably when there are thousands of other business owners that can?

It would be fucking shit to be working for such a dumbass.




He can only survive because of republican sponsored corporate welfare. HE isn't building it. 

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RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins - 10/11/2012 12:21:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Steve Wynn just put on hold a 2 billion dollar casino project in Las Vegas. He can't afford to move forward with the Chosen One as president.



You mean the lack of visitors to vegas had nothing to do with it?


Indeed.

Good for Steve Wynn, recognising where the money is and going after it.

The house always wins.

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RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins - 10/11/2012 12:22:33 PM   
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If he builds a casino in China, and I would assume he would use Chinese employees once they were trained, how does this hurt the american job market?


Obviously you have never been to vegas.


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I assume you are smart enough to realize that foreign workers also have to have jobs if we hope to sell them goods. And US made goods would have to compete in quality and price for the Chinese to buy. A fact that seems to go over the heads of Union bosses who are still living in the 1940's.


Which facts are you talking about? The fact that the less you pay your employees the more you make?
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Somebody should explain it is a world market now.


Are you suggesting that there was no world market before 1940?

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Or are you saying that people who normally go to Las vegas will now flock to China?


No...quite clearly he is saying that chinese who normally go to las vegas will now stay in china....was that not abundantly clear?

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RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins - 10/11/2012 12:26:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Steve Wynn just put on hold a 2 billion dollar casino project in Las Vegas. He can't afford to move forward with the Chosen One as president.



You mean the lack of visitors to vegas had nothing to do with it?


Indeed.

Good for Steve Wynn, recognising where the money is and going after it.

The house always wins.


The upside is that now I can cruise the strip at almost 12 mph and the wait for a table at the bellagio buffet is only an hour

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RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins - 10/11/2012 1:44:14 PM   
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He's already built a couple and he's doing his best to lure international gamers (the big ones) away from Vegas.

Yes, he IS taking jobs and money outside the US as a huge number of the gamblers there are international travellers and he is trying to lure them to Macau instead of Vegas.

Are you trying to say that the US has sole ownership to international gamers??? .. maybe its more of a situation of international gamers deciding to bypass the US entirely (ya know, due to the hassle of traveling into the US due to your US govts Police Act... er, I mean Patriot Act, etc) and going instead to places more travel friendly (& likely considerably more tax friendly as the IRS takes their cut out of all Vegas winnings.. how much is that? 30%? or so?).. and Wynn seeing that trend and simply capitalizing on it..

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RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins - 10/11/2012 1:47:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
He's already built a couple and he's doing his best to lure international gamers (the big ones) away from Vegas.

Yes, he IS taking jobs and money outside the US as a huge number of the gamblers there are international travellers and he is trying to lure them to Macau instead of Vegas.

Are you trying to say that the US has sole ownership to international gamers??? .. maybe its more of a situation of international gamers deciding to bypass the US entirely (ya know, due to the hassle of traveling into the US due to your US govts Police Act... er, I mean Patriot Act, etc) and going instead to places more travel friendly (& likely considerably more tax friendly as the IRS takes their cut out of all Vegas winnings.. how much is that? 30%? or so?).. and Wynn seeing that trend and simply capitalizing on it..

No, what I was saying is that Vegas is one of the more popular gambling destinations in the world. This means international money coming in. Monaco has always been there as a high end destination in Europe but Macao is emerging and this guy is doing his best to help the Chinese develop it and blaming Obama.

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RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins - 10/11/2012 1:50:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
He's already built a couple and he's doing his best to lure international gamers (the big ones) away from Vegas.

Yes, he IS taking jobs and money outside the US as a huge number of the gamblers there are international travellers and he is trying to lure them to Macau instead of Vegas.

Are you trying to say that the US has sole ownership to international gamers??? .. maybe its more of a situation of international gamers deciding to bypass the US entirely (ya know, due to the hassle of traveling into the US due to your US govts Police Act... er, I mean Patriot Act, etc) and going instead to places more travel friendly (& likely considerably more tax friendly as the IRS takes their cut out of all Vegas winnings.. how much is that? 30%? or so?).. and Wynn seeing that trend and simply capitalizing on it..

No, what I was saying is that Vegas is one of the more popular gambling destinations in the world. This means international money coming in. Monaco has always been there as a high end destination in Europe but Macao is emerging and this guy is doing his best to help the Chinese develop it and blaming Obama.

so what part are ya bitchin' about? the Chinese developing a casino? or that Wynn is blaming Obama?

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RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins - 10/11/2012 1:52:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tj444


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: tj444


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
He's already built a couple and he's doing his best to lure international gamers (the big ones) away from Vegas.

Yes, he IS taking jobs and money outside the US as a huge number of the gamblers there are international travellers and he is trying to lure them to Macau instead of Vegas.

Are you trying to say that the US has sole ownership to international gamers??? .. maybe its more of a situation of international gamers deciding to bypass the US entirely (ya know, due to the hassle of traveling into the US due to your US govts Police Act... er, I mean Patriot Act, etc) and going instead to places more travel friendly (& likely considerably more tax friendly as the IRS takes their cut out of all Vegas winnings.. how much is that? 30%? or so?).. and Wynn seeing that trend and simply capitalizing on it..

No, what I was saying is that Vegas is one of the more popular gambling destinations in the world. This means international money coming in. Monaco has always been there as a high end destination in Europe but Macao is emerging and this guy is doing his best to help the Chinese develop it and blaming Obama.

so what part are ya bitchin' about? the Chinese developing a casino? or that Wynn is blaming Obama?

Wynn's whining and blaming others to distract.

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RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins - 10/11/2012 1:54:57 PM   
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Bravo to him. The government already decides to take more than 50% of what many make. When is enough enough?
Its time for Atlas to Shrug.



Who exactly pays 50%?
When is enough enough? That is a question one might address to the capitalist as well.

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RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins - 10/11/2012 2:02:09 PM   
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Wynn's whining and blaming others to distract.

well,.. thats the great thing about the right to free speech.. he has the right to whine and you have the right to whine about his whining..

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RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins - 10/11/2012 2:24:36 PM   
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But anyway, it is just an updated version of an Urban Legend...

Just so we're clear: The urban legend is what Siegel said in his (largely lifted) email, not the fact, which he confirmed to Gawker, of his sending it. Am I understanding you right?


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who probably fell victim to Internet Failure to Reflect Syndrome or IFRS (pronounced ifers). A condition in which someone sees something on the internet that produces strong emotion and causes them to furiously pound away on their keyboard as they write (or rewrite) and send off a missive before taking time to consider their actions.

I love "IFRS" and have, alas, fallen victim to it myself now and then. Bravo, Marc!

You may want to submit it to Urban Dictionary.

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RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins - 10/11/2012 6:58:25 PM   
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HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Yes, I'm SURE that's the reason he's holding it.
Did he not know Obama was President?
So let me get your reasoning straight here...There is a billionaire who decides to build a casino during the admin of a Pres he hates then, right before the election, he proclaims wait, I can't build this while he is still in office! Does that REALLY make sense to you? What do you think the investors would think if this was serious? Wynn is a prick anyway.
Are people REALLY stupid enough to think a BILLIONAIRE is going to hold a casino being built for that reason?
Interest rates are at an all-time low, Wall Street has record profits, there is a cheap and plentiful work force in Vegas and they are complaining about what? I know my stocks/401 is kicking as right now and has been for about 18 months.
PLEASE give me an explanation.


#1, Steve Wynn was very public about voting for Obama in 2008 and gave him nearly 200 grand.

#2, He is now essentially saying he was wrong.

#3, He is also now saying....having had enough time to discern a few things (and what do you want to bet....with a 3 - 5 billion dollar net worth, he's got a few fairly sharp economists working for him) that..."this shit ain't working".

and finally....#4. "Are people REALLY stupid enough to think a BILLIONAIRE is going to hold a casino being built for that reason?"....yeah actually....people are that stupid, because, he (someone with shitloads more money than you) understands that, at any price....even if they paid him to borrow money, it's foolish to do so if there aren't any customers.

Yep...he's the dumbest motherfucker on the planet.

Yeah.

(That's why he's worth billions).

The clue store is open....there's a sale....get yours before they're gone.

Hurry.

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RE: CEO to Workers: I May Fire You if Obama Wins - 10/11/2012 7:04:39 PM   
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The cons couldn`t care less about jobs or embassy security........

It`s about hating President Obama.


It doesn't have a gawdamn thing to do with hating Obama...it has to do with despising what he's doing to our economy.

As I've said before....I don't give a shit who gets in, I know how to make money regardless of the Prez or his politics, but the people in the middle class are going to have a sorry and scary awakening if Obama is re-elected.

Those people don't have the tools to crawl up from the sludge.

Romney actually wants to give them those tools.

I'll tell you a secret. If Obama gets elected, mark my words....I have no idea what the number is but if he does, the stock market is going to take a horrid swing towards negative territory.

And then it'll bump up after everyone calms down.

If Romney gets elected, the stock market will jump and then, like the other, it'll settle down.

In the end, if Romney gets elected, the net gain will be a positive.

And guess what happens when people who own stock suddenly "feel" wealthier?

They spend.

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