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CuriousFerret -> RE: BDSM in nature (10/18/2012 2:35:04 PM)
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I don't know where you get this conclusion but humans and dogs do NOT see sexual congress in the same light. They sure do.
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A human can reason, postulate, hell even birth control. The moment a dog walks into CVS and buys a condom, you'd win this one. That's just sophistication. It's still the same drive, same feelings, same chemistry.
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Fact is, procreation is an instinct, it furthers a species. The fact is, female dogs don't have sex to "further the species" at all, at least not from their perspective. They have sex because they are horny, and their cunts ache for attention.
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That is why females go into heat, to force males into seeking them out. We as humans have evolved past this, we can have sex for non-procreation reasons, even opt to not have sex at all. There are actually biological barriers to female dogs receiving a male when they are not in heat. The fact of the matter is that, when they are not in heat, it is difficult and probably painful for the male dog to try to get his penis into her, most likely for both parties. Some female dogs are built differently, but this is unusual.
However, dogs are a highly social animal, and they do engage in courtship behavior whether there is a heat in effect or not.
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And also humans tend to not mark their territory by musking, another side effect of sexual instinct You haven't met my redneck father, then.
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Dogs, cats, most animals simply make the connection from an action to an emotion. If you ever try to train animals, you know this quite easily. You want the dog to do something, you associate it with either positive or negative feedback. Eventually the dog will come to understand the link. And humans work in exactly the same way. There is really very little difference between the species in how we go about learning.
The difference, in the case of humans, is that we can take it to a more abstract level. Although there is a little bit of such activity in most placental mammals, humans have a special adaptation that enables us to engage in a more sophisticated level of abstract reasoning. It is a remarkable adaptation, and some of us seem to take it to incredible levels of sophistication.
The primal drives in our behavior, though, are identical to those of your pet dog. Your reasons for having sex are identical. It tickles your nucleus accumbens, and this makes you want to do it over and over and over again.
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Now does the dog "enjoy" getting swatted with a rolled up newspaper every time he poops on the rug? Not very likely, he was just trained not to. If you have to swat your dog with a rolled-up newspaper, you are failing your dog. Your animal is sufficiently capable of abstract moral reasoning that he ought to feel ashamed just because he knows you are not happy with him. If this is not developing, you are not giving the animal sufficient mental stimulation or emotional interaction.
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We also possesses a pineal gland and a coccyx bone, but these along with the hypothalamus evolved in humans to do more. You are confusing changes in the inputs with changes in what the glands do with those inputs. The glands don't really require any genetic adaptation. You can go on believing it to be otherwise, but that belief would be baseless.
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Sure, when we were primitive humans, sex was necessary to increase the species, as it is in all animals. But as the millenia passes, we no longer needed to. We no longer needed a tail or webbed feet, and we had to stop having so many children. So yes, the ability to NOT have sex is quite a major leap on the evolutionary scale, because it is hard-wired into every species. To not do it, to choose not to do it, shows some pretty sophisticated brain chemistry, not just bling
We are still beholden to our drives, no matter what kind of spin you try to put on it.
The experience of living in poverty and lacking the means of self-sufficiency puts a woman in a position of feeling powerless. She acts out these feelings by seeking out the company of a strong-looking male, which provides her with a sense of security. This initiates sexual chemistry, which leads to more reproductive opportunities, ergo higher birth rates in poverty-stricken countries.
Ultimately, we are not all that far removed from our ancestors. In fact, we are not all that different from wolves. To pretend otherwise is to forget how much our superiority depends on what we learn during our lifetimes and the environment that we have created to enable us to have such advanced ways of thinking.
Those things are what set us apart from the illiterate savages who make war in Southern Uganda. Our education system, our infrastructure, the philosophy that we grow up on, and all of the other inputs that make our lives different are the real difference.
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