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RE: Now God intended rape to happen. - 10/24/2012 5:56:41 AM

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I'd also suggest a bit more time in church cause your Christian beliefs aren't what the truth is.....

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RE: Now God intended rape to happen. - 10/24/2012 5:57:44 AM

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But, couldn't it be that God's Will includes Conservatives fighting to end abortion?

If Life is so precious why doesn't God fix that miscarriage thingy . . . yanno, natural abortion. God is a mighty pain in the uterus.

Careful what you wish for. The surest way to prevent miscarriages is by preventing pregnancy. And, the surest way to prevent all non-Divine pregnancies is sterilization. Taking that one step further, sterilization of the species does not, generally, bode well for survival of that species.

But, there are many ways to sterilize, most of which can be done. Lorena Bobbitt comes to mind, as does castration, or genital mutilation. None of those things would seem very pleasant to me - it's okay if that's your kink, it's just not mine.

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RE: Now God intended rape to happen. - 10/24/2012 5:58:02 AM

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Maybe an ESL course would help you.

"I struggled with it myself for a long time, but I came to realise that life is that gift from God. And, I think, even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen," he said.

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For a few years after college, I was a volunteer ESL teacher, and I've been a professional wordsmith for a quarter of a century now. So I generally trust my comprehension skills, but I know they're not perfect. (Whose are?) What do you feel folks aren't grasping from the blue sentence, Kirata? What do you see as the antecedent of "it"?

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RE: Now God intended rape to happen. - 10/24/2012 5:58:42 AM

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See, I don't think you got the memo....The US is a Christian Nation that abides by nothing but Christian values. Sort of Sharia law in english is what they are after

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RE: Now God intended rape to happen. - 10/24/2012 5:59:46 AM

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Then why is a fool like you speaking?

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RE: Now God intended rape to happen. - 10/24/2012 6:00:24 AM

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"I believe life begins at conception. The only exception I have for to have an abortion is in the case of the life of the mother. I struggled with myself for a long time but I came to realize life is that gift from God, even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape. It is something that God intended to happen."

Well if rape is one of the gifts he is handing out, I wonder if the person raped needs to send a thank you card and a donation to the church??? Cause life created from rape is a really shitty gift to receive, I think all would prefer a toaster, than a rapist child.

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RE: Now God intended rape to happen. - 10/24/2012 6:01:33 AM

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Did you just call a woman's body property?!?!?!?

If we protect intellectual property why can we not protect our physical selves as property? Isn't the essence of Liberty the notion that we own our minds and bodies? Whereas the essence of slavery is that someone owns another's body.

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RE: Now God intended rape to happen. - 10/24/2012 6:04:38 AM

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But, couldn't it be that God's Will includes Conservatives fighting to end abortion?

If Life is so precious why doesn't God fix that miscarriage thingy . . . yanno, natural abortion. God is a mighty pain in the uterus.

Careful what you wish for. The surest way to prevent miscarriages is by preventing pregnancy. And, the surest way to prevent all non-Divine pregnancies is sterilization. Taking that one step further, sterilization of the species does not, generally, bode well for survival of that species.

But, there are many ways to sterilize, most of which can be done. Lorena Bobbitt comes to mind, as does castration, or genital mutilation. None of those things would seem very pleasant to me - it's okay if that's your kink, it's just not mine.

The Creator fucked up in designing the baby-making system then.

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RE: Now God intended rape to happen. - 10/24/2012 6:06:19 AM

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"I struggled with it myself for a long time, but I came to realise that life [that newly conceived life] is that gift from God. And, I think, even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen," he said.

For a few years after college, I was a volunteer ESL teacher, and I've been a professional wordsmith for a quarter of a century now. So I generally trust my comprehension skills, but I know they're not perfect. (Whose are?) What do you feel folks aren't grasping from the blue sentence, Kirata? What do you see as the antecedent of "it"?

I was an English major. The antecedent of "it" in that statement is "life," not rape.

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RE: Now God intended rape to happen. - 10/24/2012 6:11:25 AM

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Then why is a fool like you speaking?

That was Plato speaking. There's a clue hidden in the post, if you can find it.

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RE: Now God intended rape to happen. - 10/24/2012 6:31:02 AM

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Then why is a fool like you speaking?

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RE: Now God intended rape to happen. - 10/24/2012 6:35:12 AM

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Well if rape is one of the gifts he is handing out, I wonder if the person raped needs to send a thank you card and a donation to the church??? Cause life created from rape is a really shitty gift to receive, I think all would prefer a toaster, than a rapist child.

Well, if you'd put your demagoguery away, you'd see that the rape isn't the gift, but the result of that rape, the life is the gift. Dude even said that rape is a horrible situation. We can discuss if a pregnancy is a gift or not, but we'll get nowhere, as I can not get pregnant and, judging from your profile pic, you can not get pregnant either. It being a gift or not is up to the person receiving it.

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RE: Now God intended rape to happen. - 10/24/2012 6:38:27 AM

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Did you just call a woman's body property?!?!?!?

If we protect intellectual property why can we not protect our physical selves as property? Isn't the essence of Liberty the notion that we own our minds and bodies? Whereas the essence of slavery is that someone owns another's body.

I thought the essence of slavery (non BDSM slavery) was one person controlling the freedom and liberty of another, without the other's consent. While that will include the physical body, it goes further.

And, you are ignoring the "

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RE: Now God intended rape to happen. - 10/24/2012 6:39:31 AM

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He doesn't have a clue, but luckily god gave his mother the gift of life, regardless of how foolish.

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RE: Now God intended rape to happen. - 10/24/2012 6:40:09 AM

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The Creator fucked up in designing the baby-making system then.

How so?

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RE: Now God intended rape to happen. - 10/24/2012 6:46:13 AM

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"I believe life begins at conception. The only exception I have for to have an abortion is in the case of the life of the mother. I struggled with myself for a long time but I came to realize life is that gift from God, even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape. It is something that God intended to happen."

Well if rape is one of the gifts he is handing out, I wonder if the person raped needs to send a thank you card and a donation to the church??? Cause life created from rape is a really shitty gift to receive, I think all would prefer a toaster, than a rapist child.

A nice gift for you would be the ability to quote accurately.

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RE: Now God intended rape to happen. - 10/24/2012 6:47:10 AM

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It [pregnancy] being a gift or not is up to the person receiving it.

What happens to a woman's body, including what happens inside the woman's body is up to the woman concerned to define and decide for herself. No one else has the right. It is up to the woman concerned herself and no one else, except her partner in cases of voluntary pregnancy.

If men were faced with decisions like this, I doubt very much there would be controversy or even any discussion about it. I can't see men putting up with these kinds of pressures and control over their own bodies for an instant - indeed why should they? But women are expected to sit mutely while others (who won't ever have to live with the consequences) make decisions for them.

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RE: Now God intended rape to happen. - 10/24/2012 6:48:38 AM

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Isn't there something in the bible about some evil spirit which used to be Goddies right hand MAN, and is he not iresponsible for all the evil thoughts, like sex.

Which would kind of make him also responsible for rape and it is only those who follow the true teaching of God, thou shall not etc. who will be destined for salvation.

DomYngBlk was right on the money, it is a charter to do whatever the fuck you like either with yourself or others, because Goody Goddy has already mapped out your life down to the minutest detail.

You even crap to his command like infantile Senators trying justify their own sexually deviant thoughts.

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RE: Now God intended rape to happen. - 10/24/2012 6:50:55 AM

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Despite their insistence that the woman should suffer for being raped by being condemned to keep any child that results, I have never heard one of them suggest that all the rapist's property be taken off them to pay for that child's upkeep, education etc. Would that be interfering with the right to private property? Which bit of rape isn't interfering with the woman-victim's private property?

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RE: Now God intended rape to happen. - 10/24/2012 6:53:04 AM

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Predestination: The Great Doctrine of Comfort

Predestination does not mean that God has charted out every detail of our lives beforehand so that we are programmed robots, forced to obey. In fact, such a teaching cannot be found in Scripture. Whenever the Bible speaks about predestination, it is concerned only with salvation. According to sacred Scripture, what God has predestined is not every detail of our lives; He has predestined our eternal salvation and everything that pertains to it.

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