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"private sector effinciency" explained - 11/2/2012 9:59:52 PM   
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Just for starters ...

US CEOs' pay rose 313% from 1990 to 2003. By contrast, the S&P 500 stock index rose 242%.

All that upon a foundation of actual corporate profits increasing by 128% in the same period.

So the CEOs decreased efficiency in any normal sense of the meaning by absconding with a 185%premium for themselves above actual performance in terms of actual profits by virtue of fluffing up the stock price by 114% beyond that warranted by actual performance.

Nice work if you can get it, etc, but "greater efficiency of the private sector" it most assuredly is not.


Of the ~ $160 to AIG from the US treasury, $33 billion went to bonuses for driving the company into the dirt and spewing financial toxic waste far and wide. Another $80 billion went to paying dividends, upon a trillion dollar loss, the rest, and more after that, went to Gildman Sachs and others who took the other side of the bet, which the government covered fully.

Lesson one in "private sector efficiency" and "hands off government>


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RE: "private sector effinciency" explained - 11/2/2012 11:24:45 PM   
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"Gildman Sachs" ... ha ha.

Nice Freudian slip, if I do say so myself. Honestly, it was a typo.




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RE: "private sector effinciency" explained - 11/2/2012 11:51:28 PM   
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My Kaiser dermatologist once noted that the nature of business is: to get away with everything you can. Is this really how we want to run our health care system? Or our government? Somehow the efficiencies of the private sector always move cash from the client/consumer/public to the owner/stockholder. Sam Walton sold a lot of Americans cheaper knick nacks. And a lot of those Americans are now out of jobs or working part time for minimum wage.
Electing a chief executive on the basis of his ability to finesse the system for extra profits of the top executives, investors and owners while avoiding indictment seems designed for voter remorse? It's not like when the robber barons were drafted in to write laws preventing others from imitating how they built their fortunes. NOBODY in Wall Street is seriously talking about restructuring the system to prevent more abuses. They are fighting for the jobs where they will design more clever abuses.
Accusations that Obama hasn't revived the economy and rebuilt employment are disingenuous. Competent economists have followed the financial meltdown and depression and noted how many companies survived by increasing employee workload and productivity. Those jobs aren't coming back! And the forces of robotization of the workforce are just now gathering steam. Structural unemployment is the largest dark cloud facing the working people of the country, not falsely labeled 'socialist' politicians. What hope we have is that the off-shored industries are getting pinched by rising transportation costs over ocean and the rising wage demands of Chinese and East Asian workers. Some of that work will return. Betcha the top executives make even more money on that process? And get wage concessions for any returning factories.

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RE: "private sector effinciency" explained - 11/3/2012 2:55:05 AM   
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I typed the OP literally in the dark, in my car. I hope people enjoy the stutter spelling of efficiency in the thread title.

On the surface, structural unemployment is due to off-shoring, etc. But if we look at the numbers, all the developed countries are ~ 70% service sector v. manufacturing sector, even Germany and Japan. The US is several percentage points higher, as of 2007 figures, because of the inflated profits of the financial sector, which constituted a grossly disproportionate 40% of GDP at the time. But again, subtract the asset bubble, ( not just housing, as the media persistently focus on), and in terms of any accurate accounting measure, (good luck with that in the US), ~70% service, 30% manufacturing is the norm for modern developed economies.

The problem is not so much loss of manufacturing as much as lack of preparedness for where things are going.

This why Germany, with ~27% the population of the US nevertheless has greater total exports than the US, not just per capita exports. They complain somewhat about the Chinese imports, but they cut it short and figure out how to adapt, instead of wanting to wage economic warfare. Their education system, government-corporate-worker agreements and negotiations, and understanding that the economy is ultimately in service to society (ordoliberalismus) is what keeps them ahead.

The "trinket capitalism," winner-take-all, who cares if the product or service is useful or not, just sell it, mentality in the US is not doing us any favors here.

Especially when almost 40% of the largest corporations pay no tax at least one out of three years. That is the norm.

The complaints about the US corporate taxes being higher than European corporate taxes (however marginally) are a joke, because the European corporations actually pay the taxes.

With all their 'socialism,' Germany, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Switzerland, kick the US' and UK's arse up and down the street in every meaningful economic measure. Even France does better in terms of output per worker. Oh, and they all work 2-3 hours less per week and have almost twice the avg. vacation time in the year.

But in the US, we must do what the CEOs say, being that they infiltrate the government on a regular basis, e.g. Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Henry Paulson, Robert Rubin, etc.

Adam Smith warned against idolatry of the rich, which inevitably results in their infestation into the government. The current infatuation, man-crushes, woman-crushes, etc. on the wealthiest, just for being the wealthiest (unless their name is Buffett or Soros) is fed by the mainstream media, the nut-job radio media, Fox, CNN, all of them.

This ain't going away anytime soon.




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RE: "private sector effinciency" explained - 11/3/2012 10:27:54 AM   
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Average CEO pay rose mostly from 1992 to 2000, since then it has gone down.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_pay_in_the_United_States
Guess who's administration was in charge of the process?

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