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BenevolentM -> Why should we preserve Iran (11/6/2012 7:32:57 PM)
Why should we preserve Iran? Apart from the WMD wild card, Iran hates liberals as much or more than conservatives. What country in the Middle East has been as kind as Iran to conservative administrations? It is one of those ironies of life and perhaps a basis on which a peace could be forged.

Owner59 -> RE: Why should we preserve Iran (11/6/2012 7:34:09 PM)
Oh No....not again...

BenevolentM -> RE: Why should we preserve Iran (11/6/2012 8:55:24 PM)
If Obama should win, it could mean war and not peace for the aforementioned reason. They will do what they can to embarrass the administration because it is liberal and they hate liberals.

BenevolentM -> RE: Why should we preserve Iran (11/6/2012 9:18:32 PM)
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-india-china-ufos-20121107,0,5138335.story Bad Omen?

BenevolentM -> RE: Why should we preserve Iran (11/6/2012 9:48:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BenevolentM Bad Omen? It begs the question, does ET know something we don't? Does ET favor liberals or conservatives?

YN -> RE: Why should we preserve Iran (11/6/2012 10:31:20 PM)
Utter madness.

BenevolentM -> RE: Why should we preserve Iran (11/7/2012 3:02:33 AM)
In Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace is depicted a race. During this race the sand people fire with rifles at the futuristic race cars. The sand people are the Iranians.

Politesub53 -> RE: Why should we preserve Iran (11/7/2012 3:36:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BenevolentM In Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace is depicted a race. During this race the sand people fire with rifles at the futuristic race cars. The sand people are the Iranians. Beam me up, Scotty. [8\|]

BenevolentM -> RE: Why should we preserve Iran (11/7/2012 3:40:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BenevolentM In Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace is depicted a race. During this race the sand people fire with rifles at the futuristic race cars. The sand people are the Iranians. You have the liberal notion that sand people will be sand people. No one is going out to arrest them and there is an asymmetric battle involving harassment. The recent attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi suggests that Islamic terrorists still think Bush is in office. This suggests to me that the terrorists are ambitious in that they hope to utterly destroy the moral authority of the Presidency piece by piece. The Islamic terrorists won something important in Benghazi. They proved that you don't need to be a domestic terrorist in order to wage an effective military campaign against the United States. The liberals including Europe are fully vested in the notion that if you prevent domestic terrorism an aggressive Bush doctrine is unnecessary. How long will the liberals manage to hold out against the harassment before they completely lose face? Apparently, it wasn't enough this time, but there is always a next time. If we follow the logic that foreign terrorism means that we should cease being a global police force, the terrorists will have clearly won. Even if we cease to have a military presence globally, our economic presence will remain. So if we follow the liberal argument further, does this mean that we must collapse the economy and return to basics? If we do that, who then is to fill the void? Perhaps the Islamic terrorists are vying for the position. If that is the case, kiss your liberal paradise good bye.

Politesub53 -> RE: Why should we preserve Iran (11/7/2012 3:45:06 AM)
FFS Scotty.....I said beam me up......Now.

BenevolentM -> RE: Why should we preserve Iran (11/7/2012 4:56:13 AM)
Ok, let's take the opposite position and see what we get. Suppose Benghazi was a spontaneous event like some people currently suspect that Pearl Harbor was a spontaneous event. First of all, you would be taking a needless risk. A response that saved the life of the ambassador would have been optimal. Such an operation need not involve killing everyone. Such thinking is a wee bit extremist and disconnected. Ok, suppose there are no people out there who want to kill Americans for political reasons. Suppose if they do it is because some wrong had been done them and if you fail to continue the cycle of abuse the problem will end. Such thinking too is a wee bit extremist and disconnected, because people often go to war and kill each other over ideological differences that have nothing to do with any actual wrongs done them. An insult can be easily dismissed as the final straw and not the cause. The avalanche (I'm making a reference to chaos theory here) was inevitable. The final straw only determines the precise timing of the event, not whether the event will occur. Around election time the government is vulnerable to public opinion. But isn't the why things happen inherently mysterious and has no logic? If we do not exacerbate the matter, we will be alright. That would be true if your response to the situation was optimal which it was not. The response was one typical of an extremist, one that was entirely lacking in temperance. The rule is keep it small. It isn't be derelict in your duty. If dereliction of duty were a crime, it would suggest that the President is a criminal. Is dereliction of duty a crime?

BenevolentM -> RE: Why should we preserve Iran (11/7/2012 5:08:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BenevolentM Is dereliction of duty a crime? Not according to modern economic theory, the one that resulted in our present financial dilemma. Hence, is Obama delivering on his promise of change or did we get Bush III?

BenevolentM -> RE: Why should we preserve Iran (11/7/2012 6:02:07 AM)
quote: "I so wish that I had been able to fulfill your hopes to lead the country in a different direction," Romney told a few hundred supporters and staffers in a stunned convention center ballroom. "But the nation chose another leader, and so Ann and I join you to earnestly pray for him and for this great nation." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/mitt-romney-election-results-2012_n_2036422.html Romney is indeed a Christian and for this I praise him.

BenevolentM -> RE: Why should we preserve Iran (11/7/2012 6:14:26 AM)
What I don't understand is why Romney pursued such a clearly flawed argument. Obama inherited the depression from Bush. According to http://miseryindex.us/ Obama hasn't done all that badly.

DarkSteven -> RE: Why should we preserve Iran (11/7/2012 6:19:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BenevolentM quote: "I so wish that I had been able to fulfill your hopes to lead the country in a different direction," Romney told a few hundred supporters and staffers in a stunned convention center ballroom. "But the nation chose another leader, and so Ann and I join you to earnestly pray for him and for this great nation." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/mitt-romney-election-results-2012_n_2036422.html Romney is indeed a Christian and for this I praise him. He's a Mormon. I don't consider Mormons Christians because they are polytheists.

vincentML -> RE: Why should we preserve Iran (11/7/2012 6:42:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven quote: ORIGINAL: BenevolentM quote: "I so wish that I had been able to fulfill your hopes to lead the country in a different direction," Romney told a few hundred supporters and staffers in a stunned convention center ballroom. "But the nation chose another leader, and so Ann and I join you to earnestly pray for him and for this great nation." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/mitt-romney-election-results-2012_n_2036422.html Romney is indeed a Christian and for this I praise him. He's a Mormon. I don't consider Mormons Christians because they are polytheists. Christians, though they deny it, are polytheists: Father, Son, Holy Ghost, Mother Mary and the Host of Saints in Heaven we pray for deliverance

BenevolentM -> RE: Why should we preserve Iran (11/7/2012 6:44:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven He's a Mormon. I don't consider Mormons Christians because they are polytheists. Mormons certainly have many of the same disciplines. Personally, Romney would not be my ideal choice for a candidate. He was too much of a business man for my taste, not sufficiently skilled as a politician. Obama is a highly skilled politician. Mastery of a subject is a thing worthy of praise. You just hope the skill is used for the good. The Mormons are not lacking in mastery of the subject of what it is to be a Christian. Are they Christians in the full sense of the word in a way that a Catholic is a Christian? This conflict is one that the Church tried to avoid without complete success. Concerning Mormonism what I want to know is whether or not Mormons acknowledge the Mother of the Church since my authority derives from her. Above her is naturally her Son who was born to be the King of Kings. Christians believe in the ultimate Divinity of Man in that we will be made Kings. God, however, shall continue to preside over us for all eternity. Is this polytheist? In a sense it could be so argued.

chainedandgagged -> RE: Why should we preserve Iran (11/7/2012 6:45:39 AM)
the agree with obama...destruction of isreal. you have no concept of what liberal means.....here is a hint, it doenst mean freedom here in america.

Fellow -> RE: Why should we preserve Iran (11/7/2012 7:56:14 AM)
quote: Why should we preserve Iran? What a question, it shows some totally flawed ideology many Americans are infected with. Who are WE to preserve or not preserve? Should we preserve USA?

mnottertail -> RE: Why should we preserve Iran (11/7/2012 7:59:12 AM)
It may be a moot point, I am not sure with their religion that pickling or smoking or corning is an option.

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