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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/8/2012 9:24:20 AM   
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My question would be who is calling America a 'racist country'?  Cuz I haven't heard that bandied about a great deal.

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/8/2012 9:30:06 AM   
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Oh, you're another of these people who thinks that the US saved Europe from Hitler single handed, rather than turning up three years late after Russia had already done most of the work, then.


Oh Please.... without lend-lease Russia would have been toast by the end of 1943.

Perhaps you could tell us what percentage of the russian arsenal was supplied by the u.s.?..I will give you a hint. St petersberg, which was under siege by the nazis, produced a similar quantity of war material as the u.s. lend lease and it came in the first 900 days of the war.
Perhaps you might also let us in on when that lend lease hardware started showing up in significant quantities and by which route?


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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/8/2012 9:33:47 AM   
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Oh Please.... without lend-lease Russia would have been toast by the end of 1943.


Had Britain and America thrown in during the mid to late 30's when Russia asked them for help....alot of things would have been different.




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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/8/2012 10:03:20 AM   
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You mean to tell me he is a foreigner? He should probably be reading up on Walter Laqueur then and figuring out his own continent's issues rather than bothering with ours unless he's a-packing.

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/8/2012 10:20:00 AM   
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Oh Please.... without lend-lease Russia would have been toast by the end of 1943.


Had Britain and America thrown in during the mid to late 30's when Russia asked them for help....alot of things would have been different.





You could even go back to 1935 and say if France and England would have responded differently to Hitler remilitarizing the Rhineland, things would have been different.

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/8/2012 10:26:13 AM   
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Hell, if you're going that far back, why resort to half measures?
The peace settlement of 1918 was a complete fucking joke and made Germany remilitarising and entering another expansionist phase inevitable. Everything else is just details after that.

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/8/2012 10:32:15 AM   
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In less than 100 years from today, Europe has given us Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Milosevic...and these are just the All-Stars since it could certainly go on if we name lesser lights than these. The only reason there haven't been more holocausts, purges, and the like is that the U.S. has had to go in and neuter military capability in multiple instances.



You said Socialism..... And we are speaking present tense........ You have scored nil points so far. Even in your list you only named two Socialist leaders, both from Russia.

Why dont you just answer my question and name all the current socialist EU nations.

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/8/2012 10:35:03 AM   
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Oh Please.... without lend-lease Russia would have been toast by the end of 1943.


Had Britain and America thrown in during the mid to late 30's when Russia asked them for help....alot of things would have been different.





You could even go back to 1935 and say if France and England would have responded differently to Hitler remilitarizing the Rhineland, things would have been different.


No you couldnt. The British forces at that time were no match for Germany. The Army wasnt ready, the RAF wasnt ready.

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/8/2012 10:42:16 AM   
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Even in your list you only named two Socialist leaders, both from Russia.

I'd question that even one of those is a socialist in anything like real terms.
Stalinist isn't just a diss among us decadent borgeousie scum, dig? It's about the worst thing a commie can call somebody over here, isn't it?


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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/8/2012 10:48:19 AM   
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Oh Please.... without lend-lease Russia would have been toast by the end of 1943.


Had Britain and America thrown in during the mid to late 30's when Russia asked them for help....alot of things would have been different.





If memory serves me the soviet union was allied with france. Churchill saw to it that poland would not allow russia to come to france's aid and thus germany was unchecked. Churchill appologized to stalin for this at the first meeting of churchill,roosevelt and stalin. Stalin told him essentially "that was then this is now." I doubt that I would have been so forgiving considering the number of soviets who had won the body bag lotto.

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/8/2012 10:52:18 AM   
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Oh Please.... without lend-lease Russia would have been toast by the end of 1943.


Had Britain and America thrown in during the mid to late 30's when Russia asked them for help....alot of things would have been different.





You could even go back to 1935 and say if France and England would have responded differently to Hitler remilitarizing the Rhineland, things would have been different.


No you couldnt. The British forces at that time were no match for Germany. The Army wasnt ready, the RAF wasnt ready.


The britts had troops around the world that they could have called on...hitler was a paper tiger...his tanks had to be towed into czechslovkia by horses.. Once he had the skoda arms factories things began to shift in his favor.

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/8/2012 10:53:25 AM   
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When one man dies it is a tragedy, when thousands die it's statistics.


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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/8/2012 11:10:42 AM   
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When one man dies it is a tragedy, when thousands die it's statistics.


25,000,000 body bags is a lot of body bags.

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/8/2012 11:14:57 AM   
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Yes, but it's still a statistic not a tragedy, by Stalin's lights.

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/8/2012 11:18:48 AM   
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Yes, but it's still a statistic not a tragedy, by Stalin's lights.


Perhaps a tragic statistic. It is possible that cold war rhetoric may have colored some of stalin's comments.

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/8/2012 11:25:41 AM   
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Oh Please.... without lend-lease Russia would have been toast by the end of 1943.


Had Britain and America thrown in during the mid to late 30's when Russia asked them for help....alot of things would have been different.





You could even go back to 1935 and say if France and England would have responded differently to Hitler remilitarizing the Rhineland, things would have been different.


No you couldnt. The British forces at that time were no match for Germany. The Army wasnt ready, the RAF wasnt ready.


In 1935? In 1935 the German forces were no match for the English and French. Rearming hadn't begun in full force as of that time. France could have responded with a battalion size force and Germany would have had no choice but to retreat from the Rhineland.

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/8/2012 12:01:37 PM   
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In Mississippi on business for a bit, I wouldn't bet on the non racist BS....

Around here when white people have to use the term Black to describe

someone....They whisper....(black)...


let's hope the South never rises again!


I am going to be in Mississippi tomorrow. I have been there before and in several other Southern states. I have never seen this happen. I am so going to be watching for it.



I've lived in Connecticut, New York, North Carolina, California, Texas, Ohio and Kentucky. The whisper of the "black" word was prevalent and indeed exists. Sometimes, it's more of a an outright roar than an impolite whisper. It is absolute hypocrisy to teach our children to "play nice", yet still live in a society where racism and intolerance of differences exists.

Don't you understand,they are supposed to "play nice" as children.
As adults they are supposed to do as we do.... separate completely and never,ever mingle.
Many a parent has had that whole"play nice" thing blow up in their face when little Debbie,or Bobbie Jr, come home with a date not of their kind.
Than the shit hits the fan

Heck, if Butterhead would just play WIiTH another child they could be green with two heads.

And I don't recall my parents reacting that way when I went on dates with those 'not of my kind.'

Sooner or later you will understand that these things are said in regards to the general population...and not directed at you specifically.
I am sure "Butterhead" will,sooner or later,start playing with other children,though I doubt they will be green or have two heads
By the way,you never did respond to my last letter.Did I upset you somehow ?

I know that you are speaking of the GP. And I am not that sheltered but those experiences have not been mine. As another example, we never had or have fights at Thanksgiving dinner. Yet this is very much a cultural meme that this is the way things are.

No greens with two heads? Dayum, that means no alien visitors.

I have now responded.

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/8/2012 12:37:31 PM   
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Oy....I leave this thread for a bit, and come back to discover that we are still debating the term "socialist".

And the OP still thinks "America" is no longer racist.

So laughable. And yet, not.


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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/8/2012 1:04:05 PM   
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I hear ya ftp...SOCIALIST vs SOCIALISM ~ TWO different concepts. There are some brilliant people here in the boards, and some really ignorant ones too.

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RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is... - 11/8/2012 3:07:03 PM   
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