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metamorfosis -> RE: What would you have done in this situation? (11/11/2012 8:29:57 AM)
I'm glad you're okay. But, no, it doesn't change my mind about the gun issue. What I would have done, what I think you should have done, is to stay in your room, lock the door, and call the police. ETA: Although, in all fairness, the automatic weapon that the guy had must not have been legally obtained, and so tightening up the gun laws would have no effect. Pam

Duskypearls -> RE: What would you have done in this situation? (11/11/2012 8:36:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: metamorfosis I'm glad you're okay. But, no, it doesn't change my mind about the gun issue. What I would have done, what I think you should have done, is to stay in your room, lock the door, and call the police. Pam Thank you for your good wishes and advice, meta. Remember, my dear, keep in mind, for all intents and purposes, I thought it was an animal that "squeaked thru'" the cat door. It had happened before, and there was no reason for me to think otherwise. I would never call 911 for an animal break-in, and would be the laughing stock all over town (and in my own head) if I did. Had I a clue it was a human, that would've have been an entirely different story, and your advice would be most apropos.

Aynne88 -> RE: What would you have done in this situation? (11/21/2012 9:13:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven quote: ORIGINAL: Duskypearls quote: ORIGINAL: MAINEiacMISTRESS You are a very generous person to have not pulled the trigger, and he is a VERY lucky asshole. Funny you should say that. Several of the officers told me I should have, and they wished I had. I need to add something at this point. In Colorado, where Duskypearls and I both live, there is a law on the books called the Make My Day law. If a resident shoots and kills an intruder on their property who they have reason to believe could injure or kill them, no crime has been committed. In Dusky's case, she would not even have been charged or been subject to a trial. Good job, kiddo, and I'm glad you had such presence of mind. Same thing in Maine, the Castle Doctrine and he would have left in a bodybag. Good job Dusky. makes sure my .357 is riiiiight in arms reach In all seriousness, I'm glad it worked out ok and I'm proud of you.

Duskypearls -> RE: What would you have done in this situation? (11/21/2012 10:17:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Aynne88 quote: ORIGINAL: DarkSteven quote: ORIGINAL: Duskypearls quote: ORIGINAL: MAINEiacMISTRESS You are a very generous person to have not pulled the trigger, and he is a VERY lucky asshole. Funny you should say that. Several of the officers told me I should have, and they wished I had. I need to add something at this point. In Colorado, where Duskypearls and I both live, there is a law on the books called the Make My Day law. If a resident shoots and kills an intruder on their property who they have reason to believe could injure or kill them, no crime has been committed. In Dusky's case, she would not even have been charged or been subject to a trial. Good job, kiddo, and I'm glad you had such presence of mind. Same thing in Maine, the Castle Doctrine and he would have left in a bodybag. Good job Dusky. makes sure my .357 is riiiiight in arms reach In all seriousness, I'm glad it worked out ok and I'm proud of you. Thank you, dear Aynne. So you've got a .357 as well? Good going, girl! I was out looking at a Sig Sauer P250 today, and she was sweeeet looking/feeling. After this experience, I figure I need to up my firepower. Must do more research on it tho'.

oralfxtn -> RE: What would you have done in this situation? (11/22/2012 7:00:38 AM)
IMHO - you did the right thing and I would like to think I would have done the same thing except my gun would have been empty shortly after I screamed for the intruder to "halt". FAIK- in America, I've been told if someone is in your house at night without permission, you have a right to test their allergic reaction to lead and their ability to stop bleeding from multiple holes simultaneously. Although, I've also heard that if you pull the trigger you should aim to kill because if you don't you could be supporting that criminal's medical needs for a very long time. (not sure how true that is but it is advice I've heard more than once, but I'd verify with my lawyer next time I get a gallon of milk if I were a gun owner) On a different note... regarding gun control, knife control, any laws designed to control who has or carries what kind of weapon... I only have one term to share... M.A.D. - Mutually Assured Destruction - it works for more than just nuclear weapons, if everyone in the world owned a gun, carried it with them everywhere they go, and were trained to use it... people would be less likely to try to take advantage of each other.

Duskypearls -> RE: What would you have done in this situation? (11/22/2012 9:26:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: oralfxtn IMHO - you did the right thing and I would like to think I would have done the same thing except my gun would have been empty shortly after I screamed for the intruder to "halt". FAIK- in America, I've been told if someone is in your house at night without permission, you have a right to test their allergic reaction to lead and their ability to stop bleeding from multiple holes simultaneously. Although, I've also heard that if you pull the trigger you should aim to kill because if you don't you could be supporting that criminal's medical needs for a very long time. (not sure how true that is but it is advice I've heard more than once, but I'd verify with my lawyer next time I get a gallon of milk if I were a gun owner) On a different note... regarding gun control, knife control, any laws designed to control who has or carries what kind of weapon... I only have one term to share... M.A.D. - Mutually Assured Destruction - it works for more than just nuclear weapons, if everyone in the world owned a gun, carried it with them everywhere they go, and were trained to use it... people would be less likely to try to take advantage of each other. Yep, I'm sure that's the only reason he left and every-so-politely closed the door behind him. An armed society is a polite society! An idiot's not likely to shoot if he knows he runs the risk of getting shot back at. Personally, I do believe in gun control. When leveling a weapon, I make damned sure I use both hands on it!

MasterJohnSteed -> RE: What would you have done in this situation? (11/22/2012 9:49:12 AM)
I know I am coming late to the party, but I would have double tapped his sorry ass the minute I saw him in my house. I wouldn't have given him the chance to see another sunrise! While I don't own a gun, I guarantee you, He would have been bleeding out on the floor. I keep a 8 inch bowie knife and my switch blade right next to the bed and a 3 foot long sword with in easy reach. I keep a Kukri knife next to my computer. I keep a range of edge weapons through out the house. You come to my house, and I can lay my hands on one, I promise you they won't be calling 911 for you they will be calling the meat wagon. I don't hesitate! The old saw is, never bring a knife to a gunfight but here's the thing, if the guy with the gun hesitates and the guy with the knife doesn't. It won't matter!

Uplift -> RE: What would you have done in this situation? (12/7/2012 5:00:52 AM)
First, I would like to thank you for sharing your story and state that I am very glad you have your wits about you. Second, you definitely put something positive in my mind in terms of guns. Though I am still wary of being near one (even if I owned it), I will remember that there is a lot of good in having one around when used responsibly.

theRose4U -> RE: What would you have done in this situation? (12/7/2012 6:45:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Uplift First, I would like to thank you for sharing your story and state that I am very glad you have your wits about you. Second, you definitely put something positive in my mind in terms of guns. Though I am still wary of being near one (even if I owned it), I will remember that there is a lot of good in having one around when used responsibly. Most gun ranges have either female instructors or men good at teaching women fire arms safety. Worth some phone calls toget over the fear. Sadly the difference between dusky being alive & not is TO HIM she looked like she had no problem shooting thus the quiet sneak out. He knew as soon as she got a shot off his hiding place was done & he would become a blood donor.

lovmuffin -> RE: What would you have done in this situation? (12/7/2012 12:24:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: descrite My impressions. 1) You are a badass. Remind me not to piss you off. 2) Holy shit. 3) Never, ever, leave your bedroom if you even suspect something may be amiss in the house. Pick up the gun, your cell phone, lock the door, and call 911. Tell them you think there is an intruder in the house, and that you are armed. Stay on the phone and in the room until officers force entry. Scream "I have a gun and police are coming." Wait for the cops to come to you-- be prepared to be a bit rousted and roughed up, as they ensure you are the caller and not a threat and secure your gun. There is zero reason to search the house yourself....and about 80 why you shouldn't. The Numero Uno is what prosecutors call "house hunting": if you leave the room, with a gun, expecting to find someone, you have created premeditation: you fully expected to kill someone, upon leaving the room. This doesn't help you (depending on the state). It is not worth saving your life if you're going to spend it in prison. 4) Also, turning on the light is bad tactics: you illuminate yourself, and kill your night vision. You know your home better than anyone else; move through it silently in the dark. If you can't adhere to #3, I mean. 5) Please, please accept my gratitude that you are healthy, happy, and whole. From the few of your posts I've read, you're a quality person, and I would be loathe to think something untoward had befallen you. I think I can safely speak for everyone here: we're very glad you're hale and sound. What he said but I would not have cocked the hammer. Your S&W has a smooth double action and it would be easy to have an accidental discharge with that hair trigger. I'm guessing its a model19. Glad you're ok.

lovmuffin -> RE: What would you have done in this situation? (12/7/2012 12:31:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: needlesandpins bloody hell Dusky, i'm very glad to hear you are still in one peace! i don't have a gun, and i'm not sure what i would have done in your situation. here in the uk there is a farmer; he shot a robber in his house and killed him. the farmer was charged with murder and sent to prison. this happened after his home had been broken into numerous times, and he'd been threatened/attacked. this is how our stupid law system works. thankfully for the farmer he was realeased in the end, but as far as i am concerned it should never have got to court in the first place. for me....you break into my home then i should have the right to defend myself, and mine from some arsehole who has made the choice to break the law. even with a gun i'm still not sure how i would react though. all credit to you Dusky! needles Those who don't like stand your ground laws should take note.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: What would you have done in this situation? (12/7/2012 3:09:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: VideoAdminTheta My thoughts are that I am thankful you are here posting. That must have been quite the shocker to you. I hope you can rest and get some sleep tonight. Ditto....second amendment be damned (if it ever changes)...now go and get a few guns that aren't registered. I have 3 behind my pillow/mattress and 17 others throughout the house. Hollow points. Loooove hollow points. There isn't a place in my house where I can't say "mind if I get some clothes on?" that I can't duck, roll and grab a .38 and blow their (%%$#@@%) heads off, starting at their bowels or knee caps....with 17 rounds :).

thishereboi -> RE: What would you have done in this situation? (12/7/2012 4:03:14 PM)
I am glad you are ok. Thank god you listen to your instincts.

Uplift -> RE: What would you have done in this situation? (12/7/2012 10:16:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: theRose4U quote: ORIGINAL: Uplift First, I would like to thank you for sharing your story and state that I am very glad you have your wits about you. Second, you definitely put something positive in my mind in terms of guns. Though I am still wary of being near one (even if I owned it), I will remember that there is a lot of good in having one around when used responsibly. Most gun ranges have either female instructors or men good at teaching women fire arms safety. Worth some phone calls toget over the fear. Sadly the difference between dusky being alive & not is TO HIM she looked like she had no problem shooting thus the quiet sneak out. He knew as soon as she got a shot off his hiding place was done & he would become a blood donor. I think I would like that, seeing how my husband seems pretty intent on owning a firearm in the near future. Is this a fear that you also shared at some point? It's fortunate that she didn't get nervous, and it's very admirable. Many people would crumble in that situation, despite extensive training. I know it's an obvious statement, but I am still in awe at her strength.

CharmingKitty -> RE: What would you have done in this situation? (12/8/2012 1:28:25 AM)
I will be living in a country where civilians cannot even touch a gun legally. My concern will be perfecting my knife fighting skills.

LizDeluxe -> RE: What would you have done in this situation? (12/8/2012 6:36:49 AM)
So very glad that you were not hurt. Also very glad that you were armed and able to defend yourself. I likely would have opened fire in your position. My cousin returned home unexpectedly one afternoon to find a burglar in her house. At first she just saw the open back door that had been kicked in. He heard her come in and had time to exit through that door. When he saw her he began to approach her. She was already reaching in her purse for the handgun she carried with her. She fired twice. One round hit the refrigerator and the other hit him in the chest. He stumbled out the door and fell into the yard. That's where the police found him. He didn't make it. That is the reason I carry a handgun today. I was never interested in it before that day. I'd have shot him. He'll do this again and the next person may not be so fortunate. That's why the police wish you had pulled the trigger. I'm going to sidestep the gun rights discussion as it is a waste of time. I'd love to hear Bob Costas' thoughts on your ordeal.

ServosCor -> RE: What would you have done in this situation? (12/8/2012 9:30:53 PM)
Dusky... That's a scary situation you found yourself in. As a life long gun owner and now a ccw holder I commend you for your clear headedness and stable thinking in what easily could have turned into a tragic situation. Guns are great in the right hands and I';m very comfortable in handling mine but I also have 5 German Shepherds and a Doberman on the premises. Quite an alarm system if I do say so. However, if they get passed the K9's........there's a loaded Sig 9MM waiting..................... ~servos cor~

Duskypearls -> RE: What would you have done in this situation? (12/8/2012 10:28:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ServosCor Dusky... That's a scary situation you found yourself in. As a life long gun owner and now a ccw holder I commend you for your clear headedness and stable thinking in what easily could have turned into a tragic situation. Guns are great in the right hands and I';m very comfortable in handling mine but I also have 5 German Shepherds and a Doberman on the premises. Quite an alarm system if I do say so. However, if they get passed the K9's........there's a loaded Sig 9MM waiting..................... ~servos cor~ Thanks, Servo, that's very sweet. I know I was very blessed in how it went down and turned out. Couldn't have been better. I am sure many angels were looking out for me that night. And as for an alarm system, well, I have only a silly C9....my cat, Weenie. She was the one who alerted me. Good for you having a Sig 9mm. I was actually looking at a compact Sig P250 recently, and may consider taking it on. It's small enough it should easily conceal in my pant waist, like my S&W .357, feels wonderful in my hand, is incredibly inexpensive, and offers more firepower. BTW, I got a letter today inviting me to the moron's hearing. Haven't figured out yet if I'll go.

Duskypearls -> RE: What would you have done in this situation? (12/8/2012 10:46:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LizDeluxe So very glad that you were not hurt. Also very glad that you were armed and able to defend yourself. I likely would have opened fire in your position. My cousin returned home unexpectedly one afternoon to find a burglar in her house. At first she just saw the open back door that had been kicked in. He heard her come in and had time to exit through that door. When he saw her he began to approach her. She was already reaching in her purse for the handgun she carried with her. She fired twice. One round hit the refrigerator and the other hit him in the chest. He stumbled out the door and fell into the yard. That's where the police found him. He didn't make it. That is the reason I carry a handgun today. I was never interested in it before that day. I'd have shot him. He'll do this again and the next person may not be so fortunate. That's why the police wish you had pulled the trigger. I'm going to sidestep the gun rights discussion as it is a waste of time. I'd love to hear Bob Costas' thoughts on your ordeal. Wow, what a story! Lucky gal. I'd worry about having a handgun in my handbag, that'd it'd take too long to get it out in some situations. I understand you would have shot if it had been you, and I support you in that. Prior to this happening to me, I would've thought I'd have done the same, but that's just not how it turned out in real life this time. Maybe I need to re-examine myself and the situation, and convince myself that if such a thing ever happened again, I would/should shoot. Who knows why it went the way it did?! Crime is more rampant, and coming closer to all of us these days. Some may need to consider whether to arm themselves or not. You just never know what may happen or when. I understand why many won't ever consider having/using such a weapon, and don't begrudge them their feelings/beliefs. I've carried that gun every day for seven years (except when in Federal buildings), just in case. That "just in case" finally happened, and I sure am grateful I had it when I needed it. I'm even more grateful that although my mind said, "It's probably just an animal that got in through the cat door," my spidey sense said "Cock it," and make/take protective stances/actions. I must say, we sure surprised each other! Obviously neither of us expected to see a gun leveled at each other. To think that the tips of our barrels were no more than two and 1/2 feet from each other. Mama mia, that's crazy stuff!

Duskypearls -> RE: What would you have done in this situation? (12/8/2012 11:04:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Uplift quote: ORIGINAL: theRose4U quote: ORIGINAL: Uplift First, I would like to thank you for sharing your story and state that I am very glad you have your wits about you. Second, you definitely put something positive in my mind in terms of guns. Though I am still wary of being near one (even if I owned it), I think it is very wise to be wary AND respectful of guns. They're a serious business! I will remember that there is a lot of good in having one around when used responsibly. Most gun ranges have either female instructors or men good at teaching women fire arms safety. Worth some phone calls toget over the fear. Sadly the difference between dusky being alive & not is TO HIM she looked like she had no problem shooting thus the quiet sneak out. He knew as soon as she got a shot off his hiding place was done & he would become a blood donor. Yep, I'm sure the very last thing he expected was to encounter someone w/a loaded, cocked .357. No doubt he knew I meant business AND, as you said, he and his hiding place would be toast. That's funny about him becoming a blood donor! I think I would like that, seeing how my husband seems pretty intent on owning a firearm in the near future. Is this a fear that you also shared at some point? It's fortunate that she didn't get nervous, and it's very admirable. Many people would crumble in that situation, despite extensive training. I know it's an obvious statement, but I am still in awe at her strength. I have no extensive training, per se, but am blessed to have been born with a nature that affords me the ability to become extremely focused and effective in emergency situations, which up until now, had only been of a medical nature; car accidents, injuries, illnesses, etc. This was the first of its kind for me, and hopefully the last. The thing for which I am MOST grateful about the situation, other than its positive outcome, is that other than a bit of an adrenaline rush when it actually happened, I felt/remained completely cool, calm and collected during and after it. No great fear, trauma or hysteria. No worries about being alone that night or sleeping (I actually slept like a rock!). Friends were falling over themselves offering me support and a place to sleep if I felt too scared to remain home, but it wasn't at all necessary, and that's VERY comforting to me. In spite of, or actually because of it, I felt so secure and relieved, and was actually grateful it happened, for it proved to me I could safely handle such a situation. Until it actually happens to you, you never really know how you'll react. I did good. That gives me great comfort, strength, confidence and trust in myself. How can you beat that? People laugh and think I'm crazy when I tell them it's about the best thing that's happened to me, but it really is. I've always known I'm a strong gal, but it let me know, more deeply, about an even stronger part of me, and that's a win/win in my book. I now know I can keep my head, and come out of it laughing and joking about it, with no adverse effects. Good to know.

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