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Your Opinion Please Sirs - 1/18/2004 8:21:49 AM   
MizSuz


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I have an account on alt (the screenname there is MizSuz1) which reads much the same as my profile here on collarme. I think that my profile is pretty clear about my orientation and desired forms of interaction (and especially what I don't wish to partake in).

I often get correspondence from dominant/top men. I am an equal opportunity corresponder and am quite willing to entertain some level of discourse with anyone who inquires in a polite way. It is not uncommon during the course of these interactions to be asked if I have any interest in switching, if I have interest in co-topping with them, or to inform me that THEY switch (for the right woman, of course). Again, I generally respond thoughtfully when I am approached using some form of polite social convention.

The following is an example of some of the 'drek' I often receive. To be fair I will post my response to this individual as well.

I am now asking you, as a dominant male, to please communicate to me what you think could possibly be happening in the mind of one who would initiate an interaction with a dominant woman in this manner.

I look forward to reading your thoughts and thank you in advance for your attention to this request.

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From [removal of a persons nickname] on alt.com

Know first that my initial attraction is too kiss your lovely face and engage in foreplay that makes your mind mine. Then get you all hot and bothered with my erostek remote the triggers various electro-stimulation toys to get you into expressing your feminine side.
I love whipping a woman... and it looks like you have plenty of them. The morgan single tail in your hand *note from Suz - the whip he is referring to is a Wheeler* belongs in my hands... and the stingy kiss thawks on your leather assed corset would be most delightful to my ears... and with your moans of pain and pleasure.

Meeting you at a brunch is a waste of my time... you're welcome to have a trusted female friend of yours chaperone our time together in your playspace. I will not be interested in her at all... I am attracted to your smug look... and a desire to wipe that look off your face and use you like a woman's meant to be used. Your friend needs to be very scene familiar or what I do to you will squick her out.

You can send me your website link if you so desire... but it definitly has limited interest to me. You look like a strong capable woman... one that has a good head of hair to grasp as I rip your feminine panties from you domme attire... forcing you in front of a mirror and showing you that your naked pussy means you're now going to experience the pleasure of being a very expressive bottom... and possibly become my exclusive slave.

Dare to bring up references of bad grammer with me and you will be harshly caned. Got it lil miss suzie.

I am interested in normal conversation and familiarity before I kiss you... or impart stingy kisses to your arse. Suggest a restaurant of your choosing... and some dates and times that work best for you.

Save the domme crap for the wimps. You know what I want from you.

Here is a pix of a girl that came as a domme and was made to switch clothes with her subby girl friend... she had it coming. She is now her girlfriend's capable and eager slave.

------ Profile Attached -------

A Dom/Top in the formal scene for 5 years. Being an engineer and sailor... technical bondage is one of my favorite scene activities. I use anything from ropes and chains, to shackles, suspension rigs, Danny's cuffs, etc. A woman in bondage... submits more deeply. I love making a woman vulnerable to sensations that will make her dewy wet with waves of building passion that fuels her desire to please me!

I love flagellation! To savor a woman's feminine whimpers and moans of prolonged pending surrender thrills my primal desires! I use floggers for warm-up, crops/dressage/single-tail whips for giving stingy kisses. If you love the cane... and wear short pleated skirts... I know what you need! I take time to map a woman carefully... testing your reactions to various
levels or intensity... till I find the right mix of sensations that make your Mistress my slave... your wonderful mind!

I am sensual, engaging all of a woman's senses. Grapes to strawberries, rabbit fur mitts, vampire gloves, ice phallus mixed with dripping wax, brass belled nipple and labia clips, warm almond massage oils, long stemmed red roses and bear grass, special fx, silcone dildos and astroglide, my cock/mouth/teeth and powerful hands... Kuma Sutra honey dust to lick, soft candle lit rooms, blue and red light bulbs, enya/enigma/peter gabriel enhancing the mood! Much more!

I love creating a special scene for a woman that has expressed her deepest desires to me! This sets me apart from most Doms. I love casting a spell of mastery that allow full expression of a woman's inner being! I am financially secure. Buying fetish attire for a slave girl of mine, or tickets to a house party across the country is not going to limit me!

Fetish attire. I love a feminine woman. High heels, short skirts. lacy blouses, Victoria Secret lingerie, thi-high nylons, ff-stockings (UK grade), corsets. I love a woman with renaissance spirit... chainmaile on a
woman really excites me. Latex is my favorite material for a woman to wear... it conducts heat, like a second skin, the material is so sexual and whippable!!! PVC is ok, spandex is great! I love northbound leather goods... a woman that wears leather and likes to smell and lick leather is most delightful! I love black attire, though a simple summer dress, white heels, pink hose... a stiff breeze that makes you hold the short hem down... as I twist and tug on your nipples leading you through a meadow
after I have chased and captured you for ravishment! Colorful attire, white for instance to me translates into ultra-feminine submissive... stripping away your vanillaness and transforming you into a dark angel
...I like that contrast.

I am safe, sane, and consensual. If your a novice, consider reading "Send me the thorns, screw the roses!" before we meet. I practice safe sex, know how to keep my quality toys properly cleaned, and I always have a safety plan that we discuss and agree to before we play. I have taken the time to properly educate myself via bdsm workshops DFP Galas, TES 25, BR98, and Boston’s BDS. I have integrated erotic activities that appeal to my sense of intimate expression from what I have learned and observed from experienced folk in the scene and other aspects of my life... such as meditation, yoga, and my love for the outdoors. I am disease free and healthy. I have never smoked and rarily drink. To me there is no greater rush than thrilling a woman to the very core of what she desires
and craves from me. I am open and nonjudgemental and expect the same respect from you when we meet. I prefer to meet socially first to become familiar with each other... far more efficient and more enjoyable
than virtual exchanges.

Much more. Looking forward to your response!

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My response:

William,

Thank you so very much for such a well thought out (and executed) comedy. I appreciate your efforts to amuse me while I drink my morning coffee.

To further amuse me I intend to post and share your email to collarme.com where some of the lifestylers there are sure to get as much amusement from it as I do now.

Good luck with your quest (I suspect you may need it).

Superlatively,
Suz
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Gentlemen, your thoughts?

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RE: Your Opinion Please Sirs - 1/18/2004 11:33:31 AM   
ProDomme


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Status: offline 		LMAO..Hey he amused me also ... Thanks for sharing!

;)


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RE: Your Opinion Please Sirs - 1/18/2004 11:49:13 AM   
MizSuz


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quote:

ORIGINAL: ProDomme

LMAO..Hey he amused me also ... Thanks for sharing!

;)




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It was my pleasure. :) His response was some sort of accusation regarding my 'running behind some silly website' followed by telling me that he expected a more wicked response.

I told him I knew where my power lay, didn't enjoy power struggles (particularly inane ones) and that I am not prone to rising to the challange of every rutting dog that howls in my direction.

I then bid him a good life and blocked him.

I do hope to hear some insight from the men, however. I'm afraid I just can't get my head around why anyone would initiate a conversation/interaction like this.

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RE: Your Opinion Please Sirs - 1/18/2004 12:43:19 PM   
DaddyGrey


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Status: offline 		Suz,
The letter you posted shows an attitude which seems to be far too endemic amongst het male dom-wannabes. The attitude that all women are actually submissive in their hearts and only need to properly taken to realize it
What utter crap::::laughing::::. I've heard the same BS from men who like to think that all lesbians are really straight and only go for other women because they have not been properly fucked.

IMO it shows a distinctly adolecent mind set and some fairly deep trouble with self esteem for one to need to believe such things in order to justify one's own proclivities.

And, truly, how could a person believe that such a response would be attractive anyone? Dominance does NOT equal boorish, clueless arrogance. Yet so many seem to think it does.

Gad, I'm glad I was brought up in queer Leather, not het BDSM.

In Leather,
Daddy Grey

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RE: Your Opinion Please Sirs - 1/18/2004 3:17:21 PM   
Erusvi


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Status: offline 		You know, I'm a human... part of the human race. When I was young, I looked around at my fellow humans. I thought to myself, "Hey, the human race is alright! Glad to part of it!"

Then I found the internet.

Then I started to read the uncensored thoughts of my fellow humans.

Then I just wanted to cry.

I cannot fathom why people so eagerly embrace idiocy. It's almost like the mirror of self-evaluation isn't present in their psyche. They are seemingly unaware of the reflection their words and attitudes will leave with those that view them. (Unaware? No, in this case... horribly misled, rather). It's the virtual equivalent of a fat man in a speedo. Don't these people think before they step out into the view of the rest of the world???

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Dare to bring up references of bad grammer with me and you will be harshly caned. Got it lil miss suzie.


I nearly laughed myself to tears at that. Why would a 'Dom' so readily set themselves up to be humiliated? I mean, seriously, what did he expect? Were you to buckle under the onslaught of his virtual dominance? Were you to quake and tremble in the aura of his awe-inspiring virility?

It makes me sad.

My fellow men.

I wish I could fix them.

I really do.

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RE: Your Opinion Please Sirs - 1/18/2004 4:20:58 PM   
MizSuz


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quote:



Suz,
The letter you posted shows an attitude which seems to be far too endemic amongst het male dom-wannabes.




When I read this first sentence my knee jerk reaction was to say "naaaaa, it's pretty much the same across the board, kink/'nilla, dom/sub - this is a gross generalization that is unfair to het male 'tops'" (I'll agree that I don't find my exampled email exchange to qualify for "dominant").

Then it occurred to me that I've never been spoken to by a gay dom in the way I exampled, and I've experienced more of it than I wanted to be exposed to with the het doms (and some fem dommes, as well). So my personal experience bears your statement out (and took the wind out of my knee jerk reaction sail).


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The attitude that all women are actually submissive in their hearts and only need to properly taken to realize it
What utter crap::::laughing::::. I've heard the same BS from men who like to think that all lesbians are really straight and only go for other women because they have not been properly fucked.


It's true, I've seen much of these same behaviors. I've seen similar things from gay people, too. "He's not really straight, he's just afraid" and the like. There is some element of truth to my first thought that there will almost invariably be this kind of behavior in a cross section of almost any subculture.

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IMO it shows a distinctly adolecent mind set and some fairly deep trouble with self esteem for one to need to believe such things in order to justify one's own proclivities.

And, truly, how could a person believe that such a response would be attractive anyone? Dominance does NOT equal boorish, clueless arrogance. Yet so many seem to think it does.



Oh, I do personally agree with your hypothesis regarding self esteem and mindset (and echos some agreement with ErusVI's sentiment in a later post on this thread "It's almost like the mirror of self-evaluation isn't present in their psyche."

Something did occur to me since posting this original question (and the associated correspondence). I suppose I can envision some women that would enjoy a 'take charge and demand what he wants' guy. I can imagine someone who has a similar fantasy and is pitifully inept at being able to make it happen in the real world - perhaps that email was an early attempt at manifesting 'take charge'?

What strikes me as odd is that he would choose me to send it to. Meaning, why a dominant woman if you want a woman who would swoon at that sort of behavior? Perhaps for someone out there that sort of email would be a god send or titillation or eroticism. The chances of that being likely with a dominant woman are greatly diminished.

Not even addressing the presumption that ANYBODY would immediately fall to their knees and acquiesce due to a single verbose but poorly written email...why specifically a dominant woman?

Do dominant men fantasize about "taking a dominant woman down?"

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RE: Your Opinion Please Sirs - 1/18/2004 4:38:32 PM   
MizSuz


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Erusvi

You know, I'm a human... part of the human race. When I was young, I looked around at my fellow humans. I thought to myself, "Hey, the human race is alright! Glad to part of it!"

Then I found the internet.

Then I started to read the uncensored thoughts of my fellow humans.

Then I just wanted to cry.



The first time something like that ever happened to me it was a deeply scary moment of light flashing over my head and the thought "I've always known I was 'above average' but I had no clue what 'average' actually meant." There was a radio tune playing a lot at the time and the lyric "been around the world and found that only stupid people are breeding, the cretins clone and feeding, and I don't even own a tv" and try as I might I could not get that lyric out of my head. I found the entire insight to be quite alarming (perhaps similar to your wanting to cry but manifest in a 'fear for humanity' kinda way).

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I cannot fathom why people so eagerly embrace idiocy.



I had a thought that I expressed on a reply to Daddy Grey that I thought I'd post it here for your comment. Please pardon the direct cut and paste:

Something did occur to me since posting this original question (and the associated correspondence). I suppose I can envision some women that would enjoy a 'take charge and demand what he wants' guy. I can imagine someone who has a similar fantasy and is pitifully inept at being able to make it happen in the real world - perhaps that email was an early attempt at manifesting 'take charge'?

What strikes me as odd is that he would choose me to send it to. Meaning, why a dominant woman if you want a woman who would swoon at that sort of behavior? Perhaps for someone out there that sort of email would be a god send or titillation or eroticism. The chances of that being likely with a dominant woman are greatly diminished.

Not even addressing the presumption that ANYBODY would immediately fall to their knees and acquiesce due to a single verbose but poorly written email...why specifically a dominant woman?

Do dominant men fantasize about "taking a dominant woman down?"


quote:


It's almost like the mirror of self-evaluation isn't present in their psyche.


Absolutely beautiful, that! In all fairness, I went through a considerable ringer with myself before I had the skills to do the looking required in what your statement suggests. Also alarming is how often I encounter people in which it seems that the capacity to learn those skills are not present.

quote:

Dare to bring up references of bad grammer with me and you will be harshly caned. Got it lil miss suzie.



quote:


I nearly laughed myself to tears at that. Why would a 'Dom' so readily set themselves up to be humiliated? I mean, seriously, what did he expect? Were you to buckle under the onslaught of his virtual dominance? Were you to quake and tremble in the aura of his awe-inspiring virility?


I got a good chuckle out of the entire email, as well. I even thanked him for same. I just thought it was rather ironic that he would insist I not speak of grammatical errors (I had not) in light of recent posts regarding protocols and grammar.

Why would one dominant approach another from a perspective of 'throwing down the gauntlet' in this manner?
Care to answer the above questions re: doms approaching dommes?

< Message edited by MizSuz -- 1/18/2004 4:47:39 PM >

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RE: Your Opinion Please Sirs - 1/18/2004 4:47:46 PM   
DaddyGrey


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Status: offline 		Suz,
I'm certain you are correct that there are boors in all walks of life, it's just that I see so many MORE of them of a specific type in a specific strata. Every woman I know, be she gay, straight, Domme or sub, has recieved numerous approches from straight wannabes, both online and in person, that reflect the letter you copied in your initial post. *I've* never gotten approched this way, from male or female, nor have I heard of many men who have, beyond a couple isolated instances of pushy Fem Doms at a party now and then. This does lead me to believe that there is a predominance in one area of the population over others.

As to why they would approch a person who clearly states she is a Domme, "shrug" I might chalk it up to the perviously mentioned ego-centric gender steriotyping of women by men. But you are right, some gay folks do the same thing.
There certainly are those who find the take down of a strong person to be thrilling. An affirmation of one's own strength. I can understand this, somewhat. I am quite attracted to strong women. But I do not approch Dommes with the foolish intent of 'turning' them. :::laughing:::: I may be vain, but I'm not THAT hot!

On the other hand, many slaves are truly quite strong, even dominant in nature and can satisfy that desire to have a strong and capable person at one's feet. Also the sharing of Top energy while co-Topping with other dominant friends is quite sweet. Perhaps this person suffers from the common misconception that subs and slaves are weak little mindless nothings and searches for stronger meat without knowing where to hunt it?

I think what was 'off' in this fellows letter, to my mind was the arrogance and the subsequent denigration of you for having the temerity to know who you are and not jump to his hand.

Just my .02

In Leather,
Daddy Grey

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RE: Your Opinion Please Sirs - 1/18/2004 5:26:58 PM   
druidic


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Status: offline 		This is what happens when a person becomes lost in a fantasy world.

You view everything through those rose colored glasses, and totally miss connecting with people in thier actuality.

Had this person actually showed some respect and made polite inquiries I'm sure the outcome of your interactions with him would have been far different.

As it was, He was hamstrung by his own arogance, and simply appeared self serving, clueless, and comical.

I pity Him. He will have a hard road ahead until he overcomes his denial,many, many, more rejections to come.

I feel this sort of thing comes from deep seated self doubts that result in acting out to try and gain approval.

But it's going to be a mistake to try and conform to some silly ass macho steretype to impress people.

And subs tend to be very good *idiot detectors*. Thier lives depend on it.

Just be yourself, and suggest you have something to offer, and you do much better.

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RE: Your Opinion Please Sirs - 1/18/2004 11:22:39 PM   
Voltare


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Status: offline 		I can't believe I missed this post earlier, but I will gladly offer my thoughts.

My first reaction was "oh wow, how funny" but after a moment, something occured to me - this ploy probably works.

When we open our email and see half a dozen responses from a specific type of person (i.e. a female dominant getting emails from self-declared submissives or dominants, requesting their services as a dominant) the occasional email they get that does not fit the 'mold' tends to get more of a look then not. Another interesting notion I've found is that many people who self-identify themselves as dominants, tend to be VERY defensive of their dominance in a public situation - almost to the point of refusing to acknowlege to anyone, including themselves, that there may be a submissive trait or interest. While the persons clearly did not suggest any sort of activity you would enjoy, if that same letter was sent to nineteen other women who consider themselves dominant, there's a good chance one or two will respond positively.

I am not suggesting that the man's approach was either acceptable or respectful - clearly it was not. Rather, I am trying to point out that online, people are often more likely to give voice to fantasies and desires that they might not ordinarily be willing to voice to their real life friends, or more 'public' image.

The stigma to be 'dominant' at all costs is very strong, and even stronger online where such labels are sometimes held at all costs.

To answer your question as to what might have been in his mind, I would simply suggest that perhaps he gets kicks off of dominating self-identified dominant women. While it sounds like a paradox, it actually goes to the heart of many non-consensual sex fantasies, the 'taking' of power forcibly by the man (in this persons case) from a reluctant female 'victim.' It's a power trip in his mind, but probably doesn't work in real life.

In any case, it was certainly worth a chuckle.

Stephan

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RE: Your Opinion Please Sirs - 1/19/2004 5:25:04 AM   
MizSuz


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ORIGINAL: Voltare

I can't believe I missed this post earlier, but I will gladly offer my thoughts.

My first reaction was "oh wow, how funny" but after a moment, something occured to me - this ploy probably works.

<snip>

The stigma to be 'dominant' at all costs is very strong, and even stronger online where such labels are sometimes held at all costs.

To answer your question as to what might have been in his mind, I would simply suggest that perhaps he gets kicks off of dominating self-identified dominant women. While it sounds like a paradox, it actually goes to the heart of many non-consensual sex fantasies, the 'taking' of power forcibly by the man (in this persons case) from a reluctant female 'victim.' It's a power trip in his mind, but probably doesn't work in real life.

In any case, it was certainly worth a chuckle.

Stephan


Stephan,

These are some great thoughts and I appreciate your insight. It didn't occur to me until after I had made this post that the person who sent that email may have actually been trying to play out a 'take the dominant down' fantasy and, while his approach was pitiful, that there are some women who may have responded either positively to the approach itself or may have "risen to his challenge" and would have engaged him on his terms and therefore he would have been moderately successful anyway.

I'm too hung up on consent. TAKING things from people isn't a part of my make up. In fact one of the reasons I like begging so much is because it keeps the lines of responsibility very clear. Even if I did have submissive proclivities it never would have occurred to me to respond positively to his inquiry. I do not find "dominant who aren't afraid to take what they want" in first time interactions attractive, positive, or even marginally intelligent.

I'm glad you got the chuckle too. hahaha I know I did and, as I said in the my original response to him, I thought some folks on here may have found it amusing (while also finding it rather sad).

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RE: Your Opinion Please Sirs - 1/19/2004 5:32:40 AM   
MizSuz


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ORIGINAL: druidic

This is what happens when a person becomes lost in a fantasy world.

You view everything through those rose colored glasses, and totally miss connecting with people in thier actuality.


Ya know, it's very easy for me to see this coming with submissives (lost in the fantasy) I tend to be surprised when it comes (towards me) from dominants.

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Had this person actually showed some respect and made polite inquiries I'm sure the outcome of your interactions with him would have been far different.



Quite true indeed. As I said, I have no problem carrying on a discourse with anyone, provided some of the usual rules of polite interaction prevail. The did not, in this instance.

My thought was that he must have a difficulty in finding people to interact with, then I had the thought that perhaps some people actually go for this kind of thing and I didn't want to take that thought too much farther.

Thanks for your insight!

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RE: Your Opinion Please Sirs - 1/19/2004 7:18:49 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MizSuz

I'm too hung up on consent. TAKING things from people isn't a part of my make up. In fact one of the reasons I like begging so much is because it keeps the lines of responsibility very clear. Even if I did have submissive proclivities it never would have occurred to me to respond positively to his inquiry. I do not find "dominant who aren't afraid to take what they want" in first time interactions attractive, positive, or even marginally intelligent.


Suz,

I COMPLETELY agree with your feelings on this. I absolutely refuse to so much as pat a woman's cheek unless I feel have have her express consent, not just for moral but legal reasons. Having said that, when you simply rejected his advance, you made it clear you had no intention of consenting. As a general thought, I don't believe attempts to coerce a person through email is quite the same as attempting to physically coerce. To do so in email amounts to poor manners, to do so in person amounts to 25 to Life in prison.

I often say that meeting people online is a lot like meeting them in a crowded, and popular bar. People are more likely to speak on matters there then they would at work, on the street, or even in their own homes in the afternoon. The ability to 'be' anyone they wish to appear to be online is as powerful an intoxicant as any one might imbibe. The individual who sent you this email, odds are, is probably married to a woman who thrashes his ass on a daily basis, and this is the only way he knows how to get back

Stephan

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RE: Your Opinion Please Sirs - 1/19/2004 8:17:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Voltare

The individual who sent you this email, odds are, is probably married to a woman who thrashes his ass on a daily basis, and this is the only way he knows how to get back

Stephan[/font]



BAHAAAHAHAHAHAHA Ya know, I actually hadn't thought of that, but now that I have I find it pitiful, but hysterical.

So this fool has amused me again. hahahahaha

Thanks for that one, Stephan!

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RE: Your Opinion Please Sirs - 1/19/2004 8:04:17 PM   
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RE: Your Opinion Please Sirs - 1/19/2004 9:33:16 PM   
DocHolliday


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Joined: 1/10/2004
Status: offline 		Uhhhh, yeah. I read that and got the distict mental image of that one little dog...you know? The smallest runt on the block following around a pack of Dogs behind a bitch in heat, dry humping air cuz he cant reach...lol
Thanks for sharing this. It was good for a laugh. Some men almost make me ashamed of My gender. But then again, maybe he is yet a boy...even inquiring minds are too bored with him to care.
I wonder how he keeps his blow-me-up-fuck-me-Suzie doll's attention?

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RE: Your Opinion Please Sirs - 1/21/2004 6:57:24 AM   
MrDom


Posts: 36
Joined: 1/8/2004
From: Tampa Bay, FL
Status: offline 		Thank you MizSuz for a hilarious way to start my mnrning. although I must say idiots like that make me ashamed of what I am.

There do seem to be a numbre of 'wannabe's on alt. Maybe they figure that by becoming a paying Silver/Gold member, it automatically makes them credible/what they want to be?
Nothing against the site, it has it's uses. But experiences such as yours have made me reconsider paying membership there.

No doubt once collarme gets more knows, they'll flock over here as well...

Dominic

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RE: Your Opinion Please Sirs - 1/21/2004 12:51:03 PM   
MarkTheDark


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Joined: 1/15/2004
Status: offline 		Suz,

This interaction you posted for our amusement is something that untill recently I was somewhat unfamiliar with. I have lived the life of a Dom for 15 years now, married and collared My sub for 7 years untill that light was extinguished. I allowed My sub to "surf" the net and I'm sure she'd have known the type immediately, but in My life and in the groups I travelled in, there were only Dominants, true, firm and confident Dominants. We did not doubt ourselves, we did not have a need to prove ourselves through conquest. We are what we are, period. Since the loss of My sub I have begun to explore the online world of BDSM and I am appalled and amazed at the incredible mass of pretenders, "wannabes" and insecure Dominants. And to My mind, while wannabes and pretenders can often wreak emotional havoc with their false relationships, it's the insecure ones that can cause the true damage, it seems that somewhere within them lies the soul of a Dominant, but for whatever reason it's inarticulated and in order for them to feel the surge of power that Dominance can provide they must lash out, express needlessly violent and hostile longings so that their power craved ego can feel fulfilled. To My mind this fellow is of the latter type, the very fact that he could presume to punish for pointing out his inability to remain cohesive grammatically, speaks of insecurity. You're responce was right on, the cretin isn't worth serious consideration, and honestly, most Male Doms who feel this way about Female Doms, are hiding a secret fear that they can't hang with the big girls, so rather than try to be an equal, it'd be easier to beat the daylights out of the woman in an attempt to break and thus sublimate her, violence is the weak and ignorant Mans method of Dominance. If you can't win a battle through force of will and presence, then you simply cannot win a battle.

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RE: Your Opinion Please Sirs - 1/22/2004 10:25:01 AM   
DaddisGrl


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Joined: 1/11/2004
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MarkTheDark

violence is the weak and ignorant Mans method of Dominance. If you can't win a battle through force of will and presence, then you simply cannot win a battle.


Well said, Mark.

< Message edited by DaddisGrl -- 1/22/2004 10:26:41 AM >

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RE: Your Opinion Please Sirs - 1/22/2004 7:26:30 PM   
CentralDom


Posts: 2
Joined: 1/1/2004
Status: offline 		I think I was at first amazed by all the "stuff" he wanted to do to you. I really have to get out more...

You posed an interesting question that had to do with a Dom finding it more challenging to 'seduce' a Domme.
The first thing I think is "What's the point"? I personally like strong people, men or women. However my taste in a Domestic situation is always a slave.
I tend to accept people for what they say they are until they prove differant. I do not secretly or publicly think Domme's are subs in disguise or vice versa unless they say so. I have read many sub profiles that scream Domme. I have not read so many Domme profiles that scream sub.
I will take the slave any day. I have daily challenges enough in life without needing more. Especially pointless ones.
Robert

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