RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs

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LookieNoNookie -> RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs (11/26/2012 6:35:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Id rather fuck a libertarian That's likely why I saw your phone number in Kent, just outside of the WalMart in Renton. Just south of Valley General off of 41st.

Lucylastic -> RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs (11/26/2012 6:42:34 PM)
resorting to phone numbers on walls eh?? Im soooo sorry

stef -> RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs (11/26/2012 6:45:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic resorting to phone numbers on walls eh?? Im soooo sorry He has to. His hand isn't returning his calls anymore.

Edwynn -> RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs (11/26/2012 10:32:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie It is beyond stunning how so few understand broad scope economics. For one who actually has taken (several) courses in the subject, it's not the least bit unexpected that those who haven't lack such understanding. No more than one should be 'stunned' at how few understand geology without ever having taken the first course in the subject at the uni. What is also not the least bit stunning (to me), given the environment over the last 30 years, is the plethora of antagonism-as-business-model political and ideological rant disinformation blogs trying to pass themselves off as "econ" blogs. I find nothing the least bit surprising, much less 'stunning' about any of it.

thompsonx -> RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs (11/27/2012 6:27:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl ~FR Required Fees There are different fees depending on the type of H-1B petition you are submitting. Please refer to H-1B Data Collection and Filing Fee Exemption Supplement (pages 17-19 of Form I-129) for detailed instructions on fees. The following fees may be required with an H-1B petition: Base filing fee: $325 American Competitiveness and Workforce Improvement Act of 1998 (ACWIA) fee: (see H-1B Data Collection and Filing Fee Exemption Supplement, Part B): $750 for employers with 1 to 25 full-time equivalent employees, unless exempt $1,500 for employers with 26 or more full-time equivalent employees, unless exempt Fraud Prevention and Detection fee: $500 to be submitted with a request for initial H-1B status or with a request for a beneficiary already in H-1B status to change employers (does not apply to Chile/Singapore H-1B1 petitions) Public Law 111-230: $2,000 to be submitted by a petitioner which employs 50 or more employees in the United States where more than 50 percent of its employees in the United States are in H-1B or L-1 nonimmigrant status. must be submitted with a request for initial H-1B status or a request for a beneficiary already in H-1B status to change employers Premium Processing fee: $1,225 for employers seeking Premium Processing Service http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=4b7cdd1d5fd37210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=73566811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD That does seem to be somewhat less than $15,000 as claimed in one of the more ignorant post on this subject.

thompsonx -> RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs (11/27/2012 6:29:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Id rather fuck a libertarian I would rather fuck a librarian named marian.[;)]

tazzygirl -> RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs (11/27/2012 6:29:39 AM)
It does, doesnt it.

DesideriScuri -> RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs (11/27/2012 6:30:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri quote: ORIGINAL: GoddessInanna Oh get off it. America is still a fat tinkie eating nation just most of it is eating from the food bank at the moment, that has a shortage by the way . Its not just hostess either. The teacher's union is responsible for us having one of the worst educational systems at the mometn. You can't even work if you have a masters and start because the unions wont let you take a normal starting wage and no school will hire. but according the teacher union our educational system is in shambles because they don't make enough so the teachers don't have enough incentive. Just recently the local metal workers union wouldn't take a new contract because the company couldn't afford a the current wage anymore. the workers had to strike against their union or all the metal workers would be with out a job. I think it has a lot to do with the union. While I'm not going to argue that Unions have some responsibility in the fall of Hostess, giving exec's raises/bonuses and then turning around and asking for concessions from the Union workers is bad business. Bud, I have to (respectfully) argue here....the execs were running the show, holding the reigns....they did what they felt best and gave the plebes a chance to join. They chose not to. Wanna sit in the big chair? Buy a ticket. Damn. Missed another in there. Should start out, "While I'm not going to argue that Unions don't have some responsibility..." Totally changes things. Unions have some responsibility for the fall. The Market has some responsibility for the fall. Management has some responsibility for the fall. Since the Market shouldn't be strong-armed into being changed (you know, mandated Twinkie purchases, for example), it comes down to Union and/or Management taking a hit. Since Management salary/benefits rose, shouldn't that be reversed right off the bat?

Moonhead -> RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs (11/27/2012 7:04:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Id rather fuck a libertarian I would rather fuck a librarian named marian.[;)] John Wayne?

Edwynn -> RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs (11/27/2012 7:05:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri ... Excellent post. It's difficult to go into details that others here could not understand, but you've at least got the gist of the matter of corporate governance gone awry. It's not this way at every company, in every sector, but the financial industry surely set the tone for financial incentives to take the greatest risks, for only purpose of short term gain. The other sectors that follow this scheme are suffering accordingly. They ain't Goldman Sachs, and they need to wake up to that fact.

thompsonx -> RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs (11/27/2012 7:34:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Id rather fuck a libertarian I would rather fuck a librarian named marian.[;)] John Wayne? The music man...shirley jones

Edwynn -> RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs (11/27/2012 7:40:35 AM)
Some people miss the intentional alliterative in "Marian the librarian."

mnottertail -> RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs (11/27/2012 7:41:23 AM)
Conan the Barbarian?

Moonhead -> RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs (11/27/2012 7:55:53 AM)
Conan the Librarian?

Hillwilliam -> RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs (11/27/2012 7:57:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead Conan the Librarian? My nickname during grad school.

Moonhead -> RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs (11/27/2012 7:58:23 AM)
I was forgetting you'd mentioned that. Mea culpa.

Hillwilliam -> RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs (11/27/2012 8:00:16 AM)
lol

thompsonx -> RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs (11/27/2012 8:03:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwynn Some people miss the intentional alliterative in "Marian the librarian." I rather appreciated her reference to balzac while harrold was trying to get into her knickers.

DesideriScuri -> RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs (11/27/2012 9:47:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx Jesus h. motherfucking christ, have you not been reading the thread in which you are posting ? It has been established how much these punk ass motherfuckers are paid and that their mismanagement has put the company into bankruptsy twice in the past ten years. Why are you trying to defend a bonus/salery increase for a bunch of asswipes who have proved that they have no managemet abilities what so ever? If they had been labor they would have been fired half way through their first shift. Why do you choose to fill your post with this moronic drivil? Jesus h. motherfucking christ, have you not been reading the thread in which you are posting? Have you not paid attention that I believe Management should have been forced to give back those raises (and possibly even more) before Labor was asked for concessions? You stated that they should not get bonuses for doing their job. I showed you how a bonus can be used to help people do a job better. I wasn't saying that Hostess' management did their job, or did their job well. Unless your idea is that they were supposed to tank the company , you even mistakenly inferred that they did their job.

FatDomDaddy -> RE: A few Labor Leader, cost 18,500 their jobs (11/27/2012 10:00:40 AM)
BTW FR.... just found out yesterday that the new CEO had only come in back in February... so it would seem management was changing and negotiated om good faith, laying it on the line the whole time and working hard to get an agreement.

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