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Should atheists participate in Thanksgiving? - 11/21/2012 6:28:46 PM

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Now we know that atheists get their panties in a bunch over Christmas, but shouldn't a holiday established specifically to give thanks to the Divine bother them even more?

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RE: Should atheists participate in Thanksgiving? - 11/21/2012 6:56:10 PM

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Well let's not be hasty. First we need to find out what do they know, and when did they know it?

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RE: Should atheists participate in Thanksgiving? - 11/21/2012 7:00:20 PM

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Turkey and all the fixings is good eats! I dont care what your religion is... or isnt.

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RE: Should atheists participate in Thanksgiving? - 11/21/2012 7:34:33 PM

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Most of them sre probably liberal anyway, so they are out for a free dinner paid for by the 1 percenters..

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RE: Should atheists participate in Thanksgiving? - 11/21/2012 7:37:01 PM

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George Washington's 1789 Thanksgiving Proclamation

Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor; and Whereas both Houses of Congress have, by their joint committee, requested me to "recommend to the people of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer, to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness:"

Now, therefore, I do recommend and assign Thursday, the 26th day of November next, to be devoted by the people of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being who is the beneficent author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be; that we may then all unite in rendering unto Him our sincere and humble thanks for His kind care and protection of the people of this country previous to their becoming a nation; for the signal and manifold mercies and the favorable interpositions of His providence in the course and conclusion of the late war; for the great degree of tranquility, union, and plenty which we have since enjoyed; for the peaceable and rational manner in which we have been enable to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national one now lately instituted for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed, and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and, in general, for all the great and various favors which He has been pleased to confer upon us.

And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech Him to pardon our national and other transgressions; to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually; to render our National Government a blessing to all the people by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed; to protect and guide all sovereigns and nations (especially such as have shown kindness to us), and to bless them with good governments, peace, and concord; to promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the increase of science among them and us; and, generally to grant unto all mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as He alone knows to be best.

Given under my hand, at the city of New York, the 3d day of October, A.D. 1789.

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RE: Should atheists participate in Thanksgiving? - 11/21/2012 7:39:13 PM

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The liberals will not like two words. ' Almighty God '...

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RE: Should atheists participate in Thanksgiving? - 11/21/2012 7:39:31 PM

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Most of them sre probably liberal anyway, so they are out for a free dinner paid for by the 1 percenters..

I am a liberal and so is the man. We are going out and paying for our own.

Allow me to remind you that many of those old christian/catholic folks are republicans... and snagging up the free meals at every chance.

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RE: Should atheists participate in Thanksgiving? - 11/21/2012 7:42:48 PM

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Most of them sre probably liberal anyway

Nonsense. Belief in a higher power has nothing to do with political persuasion.

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RE: Should atheists participate in Thanksgiving? - 11/21/2012 7:52:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Now we know that atheists get their panties in a bunch over Christmas, but shouldn't a holiday established specifically to give thanks to the Divine bother them even more?

Interesting OP Rich.
I never considered Thanksgiving a religious holiday.

Christmas celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ, is another kettle of fish.

Happy Thanksgiving Rich! and to everyone here!

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RE: Should atheists participate in Thanksgiving? - 11/21/2012 7:52:58 PM

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Even the GODLESS fake it for a big helping of my Peppered venison & Quahog stuffing (recipe is certified to have been in the family and IN Rhode Island since before the civil war, though it was originally for New Years and has migrated to the other holidays).
Dad does this every year and we average 30 guests. 3 Big Birds, 1 Smoked Shoulder, 1/2 bushel shucked little necks on ice. All Island veggies, except for the potatoes, which we have to get from the store because Dad has become a Yukon Gold junkie.

Now, I can't be sure that we ever had a real live atheist at the table, but Dad always got into this big and comical discussion with his boyhood school chum Spalding. He was a writer and an actor whom Dad persecuted for his "heathen upbringing in Christian Science". I miss that guy, he was the only man I've ever seen try to spar with Dad and not end up ticked off.

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RE: Should atheists participate in Thanksgiving? - 11/21/2012 7:56:52 PM

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Enough turkey, stuffing and pumpkin pie.. and who cares who is religious or not?

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RE: Should atheists participate in Thanksgiving? - 11/21/2012 8:03:01 PM

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Now we know that atheists get their panties in a bunch over Christmas, but shouldn't a holiday established specifically to give thanks to the Divine bother them even more?

I dont believe in religion, not exactly the definition of an atheist but close.. and I DO NOT get my knickers in a bunch over Christmas at all.. I like Christmas just fine (as long as not subjected to religion).. Its a holiday and special event to cook a meal I wouldnt normally cook.. well, when I have a boyfriend.. dont have one at the moment so I dont cook all that stuff.. and I like having a green tree with that great pine smell and hanging ornaments and stuff like that..

so the only thing that get my knickers in a bunch is people that tell me what I have my knickers in a bunch about!

Just sayin'

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RE: Should atheists participate in Thanksgiving? - 11/21/2012 8:03:26 PM

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Christmas is specifically to remember the birth of Jesus but this country (which some believe has a seperation of church and state) has celebrated a day devoted to giving thanks to a divine being for 200+ years.

Rich, more to your OP, for a lot of people, this holiday has become about eating like pigs and watching football. It's sad but true. This is the first year in over a decade that I won't be volunteering my time on Thanksgiving because the place I usually do so doesn't have the funding to do so, this year.

Four more years of this shit might just see a lot more disease and death right at our front door. Who needs a combat war on foreign shores. This socialist in the Whitehouse has brought a war of attrition right to our front doors.

Peace and comfort,

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RE: Should atheists participate in Thanksgiving? - 11/21/2012 8:09:28 PM

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I never considered Thanksgiving a religious holiday.

Christmas celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ, is another kettle of fish.

Now that's an odd thing, Mari. Christmas as a Christian holiday is an overlay on a much older tradition, and the US cultural holiday bears little relationship to anything faith-based, beyond the faith in Santa.

Thanksgiving, on the other hand, is a creation of the government, instead of the church, devoted to recognizing the role and importance of God in our lives.

You'd think the atheists would have an issue with that, woudn't you?

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RE: Should atheists participate in Thanksgiving? - 11/21/2012 8:16:03 PM

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I am sorry to hear that whatever this organization is, they have no money. Is this due to funds being diverted by Sandy?

And to everyone else Happy Thankgiving!

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RE: Should atheists participate in Thanksgiving? - 11/21/2012 8:16:24 PM

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Happy Thanksgiving to allllllll who celebrate it
From a godless heathen who isnt american

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RE: Should atheists participate in Thanksgiving? - 11/21/2012 8:17:09 PM

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You'd think the atheists would have an issue with that, woudn't you?

Nope, the thing is Rich, people want to celebrate holidays.

I haven't seen the endless threads started by atheists expounding on why they don't believe in GOD, lately!

What's up with that? Are they too busy celebrating?

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RE: Should atheists participate in Thanksgiving? - 11/21/2012 8:18:53 PM

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Whassamatta, Rich, you trying to crash the economy? Yer proposing to kill the turkey industry if only theists get to buy them.

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RE: Should atheists participate in Thanksgiving? - 11/21/2012 8:23:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

You'd think the atheists would have an issue with that, woudn't you?

It's just like those fantasies where Pamela Anderson is blowing you. You open your eyes and "poof"... she wasn't there. Maybe this "atheist uprising" is like that.

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RE: Should atheists participate in Thanksgiving? - 11/21/2012 8:26:53 PM

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Actually both Thanksgiving and Christmas were Pagan holidays - Harvest Feast and Samhain, or yule, respectively. Like everything else, the Christers filed the serial numbers off and claimed them as part of their show in their effort to suppress competing beliefs. Ya gotta love religious fanaticism, eh?

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