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Breast and Other Assorted Nailing - 11/29/2012 8:43:28 AM

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Sooooo....

I had a dream about this one the other night and the primordial ooze that is my brain has now voted to go for it in some long, down the road future. I am wondering about the appropriate equipment and sterilization needed as well as safe placement of said nails. Of course, any other safety and technique issues I should have on my radar, please throw those in here as well.

Also, I was wondering what kind of preparation can be done to ready for such a thing. I would assume most folks don't just start hammering away. And a really stupid, but very important question, does it really hurt as much as I am thinking it would? Fearful minds want to know.

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RE: Breast and Other Assorted Nailing - 11/29/2012 5:16:39 PM

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I think the more important issue is the cleanliness/sterility of the "nails" involved. The potential infection will be a lot more painful than anything they nail through you anywhere.

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RE: Breast and Other Assorted Nailing - 11/29/2012 5:47:02 PM

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Agreed. I had read that a pressure cooker or boiling would be the best way...barring and autoclave I'm sure.

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RE: Breast and Other Assorted Nailing - 11/30/2012 12:12:52 AM

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Nails tend to be made out of aluminum or mild steel but you can, if you look hard enough, find stainless steel nails. You can sterilize any of those by pressure cooker or dry heat (you would need to look up dry heat sterilization methods) Boiling does not sterilize.
The nails are designed to go through wood not skin and so don't have precision blades like needles. They are not as sharp and won't run smoothly through the flesh and so they have to be forced under pressure. Expect a little damage and possible scaring.
If you nail flesh into wood you may have problems with the healing. The problem with nailing to wood is that when you bang the nail in you will momentarily push the skin along with the nail into the wood. On extraction the nail will pull through fibers from the timber and inevitably some will be left in the skin.
One way of dealing with it is to chop the nail head off and pull it through (If you are going to do this use aluminum but remember to bang them into soft wood)
Another method (the one I have used) is to use a nylon block. You need hard nails for this (mild steel/stainless steel). Plastic is inert with the body and so pulling a little plastic back through the wound won't be as problematic as wood.
From his reaction, yes it was very painful but more painful coming out than going in. I nailed the flesh in between the forefingers and the thumbs

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RE: Breast and Other Assorted Nailing - 11/30/2012 7:00:54 AM

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Thank you! This was very helpful. I am not sure what you are describing when you say nylon block, so I am not quite sure where to look for one. Would you mind posting a picture or link? And definitely good to know they hurt more coming out than going in. I would imagine not knowing this could lead to overrunning the pain tolerance potentially leading to complications similar to shock. Knowing putting the nails in is not the climax of play seems pretty much essential.

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RE: Breast and Other Assorted Nailing - 11/30/2012 7:17:29 PM

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If I was you, I would shoot a c-mail to lady pact. I seem to remember her nailing someones scrotum a few years back...details are kind of fuzzy. Thinking when she was in GA?

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RE: Breast and Other Assorted Nailing - 11/30/2012 8:07:59 PM

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I'll give it a few and see if she stops by here and if not I may gather my courage and send her a note. I am in no hurry in particular to do this and am not even sure I have the right person in place to do it. Just learning for now.

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RE: Breast and Other Assorted Nailing - 12/28/2012 12:18:05 PM

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Having done both on more then one occasion with stainless steel nails I made myself and as well with standard steel nails the only major concerns is you need to make sure the nails have no rust on them and sanitize them using alcohol or beta dine works well. Sterilizing them is great,but the reality is by the time you use them they are already non sterile. Regular nails do work just requires slightly more pressure. Make sure you do not use galvanized or zinc coated nails. The more you bounce on the flesh the more pain and damage it does.

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RE: Breast and Other Assorted Nailing - 12/28/2012 5:03:52 PM

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/backs slowly out of the thread/

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RE: Breast and Other Assorted Nailing - 12/28/2012 5:14:02 PM

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*giggle* Yeah, this thread is a lil out there in the world of ouchies. Don't know what has possessed me lately, but this one fascinates and terrifies me.

So, am I understanding correctly that the more strikes you have to make to the nail, the more damage it will do to the tissues? I am not completely sure I understand what was said.

This has all been very helpful so far! I really do appreciate it.

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RE: Breast and Other Assorted Nailing - 12/31/2012 5:15:25 PM

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Boiling will indeed render it sterile--it has been used around the world as a means to clean instruments....the same way boiling water will render all parasites harmless

You would need to be careful when nailing your breast into wood. Although you may be able to sterilize the nail, after it penetrates the wood, it would no longer be sterile; thus pulling it out of the wood and breast would leave a "dirty tract". Nails are not designed to cut or separate--they are designed to crush; thus there will be tissue damage along the nails path

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RE: Breast and Other Assorted Nailing - 12/31/2012 5:21:59 PM

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Not exactly nails (Which are fun, no two ways about it), but if you really wanna err on the side of caution, use a surgical stapler.

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RE: Breast and Other Assorted Nailing - 1/3/2013 10:52:54 AM

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A few dozen amps through the nail for a while will make it red hot, at which point you can pretty much forget about organic life surviving on the surface of the thing. Car batteries are fairly traditional for this, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you know the battery can handle the abuse, seeing as it can explode if it doesn't.

Unlike a scalpel, whose edge is actually sharp and needs to stay sharp, a nail is pretty blunt and won't deform appreciably if you're careful.

Yes, this solution beats an autoclave, even destroying prions (which an autoclave won't do reliably).

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RE: Breast and Other Assorted Nailing - 1/3/2013 10:54:11 AM

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quote:

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Boiling will indeed render it sterile--it has been used around the world as a means to clean instruments....the same way boiling water will render all parasites harmless

You would need to be careful when nailing your breast into wood. Although you may be able to sterilize the nail, after it penetrates the wood, it would no longer be sterile; thus pulling it out of the wood and breast would leave a "dirty tract". Nails are not designed to cut or separate--they are designed to crush; thus there will be tissue damage along the nails path

Not quite, boiling under pressure like canning, also called autoclaving medically.

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RE: Breast and Other Assorted Nailing - 1/3/2013 1:27:28 PM

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I still suspect a good lighter, blowtorch or lithium iron phosphate battery is going to beat an autoclave for sterilizing a nail.

Pressure cooking as in an autoclave reaches a temperature of 130°C or so, for a long time.

The blue flame of a good lighter hits 1100°C (2000°F) or so.

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RE: Breast and Other Assorted Nailing - 1/3/2013 2:27:37 PM

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One thing i thought about was you might want to use a scalpel to knick the skin before banging the nail in. It would make a nicer scar. And pulling it through rather than out the way it went in is definitely the way to go.
Besides , cutting the head off the nail will probably hurt too, adding to the "fun".

The thing about the breast is that there are some large vessels in it. And they can bleed like stink. So whoever does this needs to make sure they do a bit of reseach, and try to avoid those areas. Having assisted in a few mastectomies, you really don't want to put a nail through them.

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RE: Breast and Other Assorted Nailing - 1/10/2013 9:46:09 AM

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Google this subject. I have seen photos and videos of it being done. I can be a bit of a sadist, but this is much farther out there than I care to go.
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RE: Breast and Other Assorted Nailing - 1/11/2013 8:20:39 PM

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only major concerns is you need to make sure the nails have no rust on them and sanitize them using alcohol or beta dine works well.

Not that rust would be a good thing (because it indicates neglect) but rust, in and of itself, is merely iron oxide. Nothing that the body can't handle.

Of course, the fact that a nail had rust indicates it wasn't kept very dry - so - that's an indication of poor handling - but it isn't an indication of anything else.

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RE: Breast and Other Assorted Nailing - 1/11/2013 9:09:58 PM

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RE: Breast and Other Assorted Nailing - 1/11/2013 9:38:02 PM

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I thought you were talking to pam there for a moment, Missokyst.

If you honestly want to do this, there are a few things that I have to recommend to you. First, you need to become very familiar with breast tissue and blood flow. If your insertion point is in the wrong place, you're going to have one hell of a mess. I'd be saying the same thing if you were nailing a scrotum. The veins might not look big, but rupture one of those and you might buy yourself a trip to the ER.

Sterilization. I would go autoclave. Yes, direct heat produces a greater temperature and would kill the nasties. However, how do you keep the nail sterile while it's cooling down? This is something that the autoclave provides that direct heat does not.

Getting the person ready to be the receiver. Surgical staples were mentioned but I'm inclined to think the "to the wood" part isn't the issue here. It's more the size of what is going through the skin. For that, I'd work with progressive sizes of needles. Start with fourteen gauge and work your way down. Get to at least eight. I don't think I'd want to attempt it until somebody could take something that size.

Removal. I would have to say the more sanitary would be removing the nail head and pulling out from the same direction rather than contaminate the path by pulling through. That should be easy enough depending on the size of the nail.

Whoever said that rust was ok to insert into the body has never heard of tetanus. Promise Me that you won't listen to that kind of idiocy. Do your research and don't listen to clueless fucks who don't understand simple biochemistry.

Wound preparation and treatment. Sterile field as much as possible before and after. You are creating a puncture wound. Treat accordingly.

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