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RE: Gun Control and mass murder, one does not eliminate... - 12/19/2012 4:53:39 PM

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Correct me if I am wrong but 8 people got hit when cops in NYC opened fire on a suspect recently. Would more people firing have helped any ?

Would those be the police that are always lauded as "trained professionals" in comparisons designed to portray the ordinary CCW holder as a dangerous dumbass?

Which does nothing to alter my point.

Okay fine then. I agree that it wouldn't help to have more idiots with guns who don't know how to use them. I think both sides can agree that idiots with guns who don't know how to use them are undesirable, uniformed or otherwise. Was that your point? If so, then we have other areas of agreement too. For example, bubonic plaque is bad, and the sun sets in the West.

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My point was, that as per normal you are talking nonsense. Or are you suggesting allowing everyone to own a gun suddenly makes them expert marksmen. ?

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RE: Gun Control and mass murder, one does not eliminate... - 12/19/2012 5:02:02 PM

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How many times have american hunters had to rescue gun hating europeans?

The NRA helped arm britian in wii. Seems they didnt have enough guns to save their freedom.
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Dont worry about the dead kids, just spout of nonsense about how America saved the world and pretend the problem doesnt exist.

Hunters of America armed Britain..... Really ?

Errr....... You do know that your revolutionaries were armed by the French, right ?

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RE: Gun Control and mass murder, one does not eliminate... - 12/19/2012 6:06:58 PM

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We inspect homes when additions are built.. when selling a home.. when buying a home.. when electrical work is performed.. we inspect homes for all sorts of reasons and no one complains then their rights are gone or they are being treated as convicted felons.

To enforce your idea the police would have to be able to inspect without notice any time they wanted and it would have to be a search not just a check to see if you hsd the safe.
They would have to search any place you might have a gun.
As a member of the BDSM community I would think you would see the problem.

Why would it have to be the police?

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Somewhere I wrote that to buy any more weapons, one would have to have a letter from the state clearing you for security purposes. If you are found not to be compliant when you have a gun stolen, you are legally screwed... you would be just as liable as the killer.

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RE: Gun Control and mass murder, one does not eliminate... - 12/19/2012 6:10:34 PM

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Effectively banning blacks, mexicans, and poor people from owning guns.

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RE: Gun Control and mass murder, one does not eliminate... - 12/19/2012 6:16:32 PM

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Effectively banning blacks, mexicans, and poor people from owning guns.

Do you think the US State would be so racist...... I give them more credit myself.

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RE: Gun Control and mass murder, one does not eliminate... - 12/19/2012 6:21:44 PM

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We inspect homes when additions are built.. when selling a home.. when buying a home.. when electrical work is performed.. we inspect homes for all sorts of reasons and no one complains then their rights are gone or they are being treated as convicted felons.

To enforce your idea the police would have to be able to inspect without notice any time they wanted and it would have to be a search not just a check to see if you hsd the safe.
They would have to search any place you might have a gun.
As a member of the BDSM community I would think you would see the problem.

Why would it have to be the police?

Amended to add...

Somewhere I wrote that to buy any more weapons, one would have to have a letter from the state clearing you for security purposes. If you are found not to be compliant when you have a gun stolen, you are legally screwed... you would be just as liable as the killer.

So what do you propose a new agency which justifies it funding by the number of gun owners it messes over? And regarless of the angency the reat of my post stands.

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RE: Gun Control and mass murder, one does not eliminate... - 12/19/2012 6:26:10 PM

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Effectively banning blacks, mexicans, and poor people from owning guns.

Do you think the US State would be so racist...... I give them more credit myself.

Silly me, welfare can pay for it!

The point is that its fine and dandy to say "just buy a safe" but if you arebpoor you are the.most threatened by crime and that law would effectivrly prevent you from.oening a gun

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RE: Gun Control and mass murder, one does not eliminate... - 12/19/2012 6:29:09 PM

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Got it now Michael.......

Yes, I can see that being a problem.

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RE: Gun Control and mass murder, one does not eliminate... - 12/19/2012 6:30:23 PM

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So what do you propose a new agency which justifies it funding by the number of gun owners it messes over? And regarless of the angency the reat of my post stands.

Actually, they would not have to search any other place. The placement of an approved safe would settle the issue for the government and make the gun owner liable if they dont utilize it.

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RE: Gun Control and mass murder, one does not eliminate... - 12/19/2012 6:38:44 PM

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This stuff isnt easy. I dont like gun crime and if atf wanted to end.it they could.but wont. Writing effective gun.laws is a nightmare.

Unlike before we now have major narcoterrorist groups who can.throw uzis on top of coke but that is the least.problem.

Partly due to stupid drug laws people hsve ignored for decafes people dont see.it as a.big deal to ignore whatever they feel are stupid laws. Couple that with manu sering the 2nd as a god given right, there is a.lot of peolle who ate going to say fuckit.

Unlike before, cnc milling machines are toys in a lot of garages and are .prevelent in schools and industries. Making guns and magazines is childs play. Lots of people legally make guns now, google atf citizen making guns to find out more.

The genie is out of the bottle. Montana already told atf they have no jurisdiction over guns in their state.

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RE: Gun Control and mass murder, one does not eliminate... - 12/19/2012 6:46:18 PM

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So what do you propose a new agency which justifies it funding by the number of gun owners it messes over? And regarless of the angency the reat of my post stands.

Actually, they would not have to search any other place. The placement of an approved safe would settle the issue for the government and make the gun owner liable if they dont utilize it.

You should know the gov doesn't work that way. Ps See the michigan school bombings to see what lack of guns accomplish, they were worse than any of the shootings.

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RE: Gun Control and mass murder, one does not eliminate... - 12/19/2012 6:54:43 PM

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So what do you propose a new agency which justifies it funding by the number of gun owners it messes over? And regarless of the angency the reat of my post stands.

Actually, they would not have to search any other place. The placement of an approved safe would settle the issue for the government and make the gun owner liable if they dont utilize it.

You should know the gov doesn't work that way. Ps See the michigan school bombings to see what lack of guns accomplish, they were worse than any of the shootings.

Didnt happen, bombs are banned.

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RE: Gun Control and mass murder, one does not eliminate... - 12/19/2012 7:11:37 PM

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So what do you propose a new agency which justifies it funding by the number of gun owners it messes over? And regarless of the angency the reat of my post stands.

Actually, they would not have to search any other place. The placement of an approved safe would settle the issue for the government and make the gun owner liable if they dont utilize it.

You should know the gov doesn't work that way. Ps See the michigan school bombings to see what lack of guns accomplish, they were worse than any of the shootings.

LOL

What "lack" of guns?

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RE: Gun Control and mass murder, one does not eliminate... - 12/19/2012 7:16:27 PM

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Gee, the Michigan school bombings happened in 1927.

Speaking of which, would anyone get real upset if I used a fire fighting plane to drop a load of liquified bovine produced fertilizer on John Boehner's house? And maybe the Porn Actor's Guild building

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RE: Gun Control and mass murder, one does not eliminate... - 12/19/2012 7:43:53 PM

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Gee, the Michigan school bombings happened in 1927.

Speaking of which, would anyone get real upset if I used a fire fighting plane to drop a load of liquified bovine produced fertilizer on John Boehner's house? And maybe the Porn Actor's Guild building

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RE: Gun Control and mass murder, one does not eliminate... - 12/19/2012 8:38:39 PM

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Ahhh, you noticed the elephant poop on the rug too, did ya?

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Effectively banning blacks, mexicans, and poor people from owning guns.

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RE: Gun Control and mass murder, one does not eliminate... - 12/19/2012 8:40:41 PM

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Effectively banning blacks, mexicans, and poor people from owning guns.

Do you think the US State would be so racist...... I give them more credit myself.

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RE: Gun Control and mass murder, one does not eliminate... - 12/20/2012 1:30:57 AM

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Gee, the Michigan school bombings happened in 1927.

Speaking of which, would anyone get real upset if I used a fire fighting plane to drop a load of liquified bovine produced fertilizer on John Boehner's house? And maybe the Porn Actor's Guild building

As long as you do a fly by over Pelosi's house I won't mind.

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RE: Gun Control and mass murder, one does not eliminate... - 12/20/2012 5:12:47 PM

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Gee, the Michigan school bombings happened in 1927.

Speaking of which, would anyone get real upset if I used a fire fighting plane to drop a load of liquified bovine produced fertilizer on John Boehner's house? And maybe the Porn Actor's Guild building

As long as you do a fly by over Pelosi's house I won't mind.

It would leave her alone, perfesional curtesy

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RE: Gun Control and mass murder, one does not eliminate... - 12/20/2012 7:44:51 PM

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Got it now Michael.......

Yes, I can see that being a problem.

Similar problem exists up here, where only homeowners can realistically own a gun, because of the particular rules that apply to gun safes.

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