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RE: If they know you're armed, you're safer - Bad guys ... - 12/27/2012 7:15:27 AM

punisher440

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Maybe *you* need to read a little about war in general, and also gain at least a bit of grip on reality. Propaganda and psychological warfare has always been an integral part of every war. Leaflets, radio transmissions, and even loudspeakers in the barricades of each side blasting demoralizing messages to the barricades of the other side were very common in all theaters of the WWII, targeting both civilians and soldiers. In virtually every case of this kind, the only reasonable thing to do for each side was to ignore them, of course.

But even if an exception was to be somehow made to those particular propaganda messages that you are referring to, just think: the article you pointed to admits that the leaflets were dropped on 35 cities, and that this was done just 5 days before the bombings. Here comes the hard part, the one which requires the thinking: Where was the population of 35 cities supposed to go? How could the evacuation of entire cities be accomplished in 5 days? And how could the authorities of Japan, or of any country in their shoes, possibly permit such a massive panicky exodus of civilians from urban centers in response to propaganda? The only thing those leaflets accomplished was to make those who dropped them feel better. Just as dropping the bombs a few days later made them feel better. If you want to feel better, suit yourself, but oh, what a poor excuse for self-exoneration!

Way to try and back peddle once again,you first try saying the bombing was a sneak attack then try blowing the warnings off by throwing out the propaganda flag.Of course propaganda is used by every side...but it isn't propaganda per se when you are telling the truth and you can see your enemy is not losing the war.So instead of laying the blame at the feet of the Japanese and their government,you want to blame the U.S. for the civilians not leaving Hiroshima and Nagasaki? I do not claim to be an expert on WW2,but I have read and studied numerous books on war with many being about WW2.Am I one that thinks the U.S. won WW2 all by themselves? No,for I know the Russians did much to take down Germany but they had supply help from the U.S. while it was mostly the U.S. fighting Japan.You might try reading about the Japanese and how they fought during WW2,especially on Saipan and Okinawa and about the "Divine Wind".Maybe read how the Japanese government was training school children to fight the coming U.S. invasion with bamboo spears..read a little on the planned ketsugo defense of the Japanese homeland.Predictions by most knowledgable sources say the U.S. would have had 500,000 casualties and a virtual wiping out of every Japanese given the ratio of killed vs. captured in other battles.And please don't try to say the civilians would have surrendered,they would be defending their "sacred homeland".Look up Marpi Point in Saipan to see just how willing the civilians were to surrender.

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Before making such fanciful accusations as calling me a "history rewriter", please do bother to read the entire thread, or at least all of my previous comments

I have read the entire thread and still say you are like some trying to rewrite history.

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Uh-oh! I guess I better shut up now, lest my careless talk spares my people from some future "Operation Greek Freedom" or something. We would not want to miss the chance to have some Usaian "defense and liberation" raining down on us, as has happened to so many others so close to us here, that you could smell their bodies burning.

I guess you would rather be calling your fellow Greeks товарищи [comrades in Russian].And I am quite sure that in the past the grateful civilians the ancient Greeks conquered in countries reaching as far away as Afghanistan were happy that the Greeks were welcome guests in their countries.I guess the smell of all those bodies the Greeks killed is so far in the past the stench is no longer there.So spare us your whining because Greece is no longer a world power and you want to act like your past did not mirror ours.

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