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RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! - 6/19/2006 7:37:34 PM   
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For a while I had the same thoughts, then I realized that chivalry and BDSM go together. When me and my slave met we were vanilla and I treated her with chivalry and she loved it, now I still do (I might bang her like an animal in the bedroom, but I treat her like a lady otherwise).

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RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! - 6/19/2006 8:38:46 PM   
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I haven't met a submissive yet, nor a slave, who doesn't love it when s/he is wined dined and romanced. The simple things, like opening the car door, pulling out the chair, telling me to go soak in the tub while he finishes up the dishes. For me, those are the moments that touch my heart equally as much as the moments I see the pleasure in his eyes from being well served by me. Maybe a little bit more, because they are not routine and they indicate my specialness to him.

I have read here and spoken to friends who have difficulty when they are sick or hurt and their Dominant/Master " takes care " of them. I have no frame of refernce to that. I am keenly aware that when I am ill, I am of little * use* to him and that my service to him at that time is to get well. And to that end, it is my obligation to follow his rules to make that happen.
I have no idea where my last paragraph came from.. just popped into my head as I was posting. I hope it has some relavance.
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RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! - 6/19/2006 8:55:27 PM   
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In my opinion it doesn't make You less Dom Sir. i feel charished and appricated when my Master does random things like that to show how much He appricates what i do.

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RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! - 6/19/2006 9:41:35 PM   
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More often than not, Master opens doors for me, pulls out my chair, etc. In no way does it take away the fact that I am there to serve him. He does these things because HE  wants to, not because I expect them.

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RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! - 6/20/2006 12:05:37 AM   
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My question is, does that make me a less dominate from the submissive perspective? (Like in the vanilla relationship… when a woman disrespects a man when he wears her pantyhose… she looks at him as a less masculine.)

Thanks,
Master,


Honestly, I think that would be a good question for your slave. Personally, I'm not sure how I'd feel about Master putting on a pair of hose ... he's awfully hairy.. just can't picture it being a good look for him.  

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RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! - 6/20/2006 2:58:28 AM   
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From a subs point of view, I think it is summed up in one word.  "Respect".  And that works both ways in a relationship whatever type it may be.  As a sub I would hope a Mistress would respect who I am and what I am, just as much as I would respect her.

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RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! - 6/20/2006 3:00:52 AM   
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Um... One of my slave pets has been known to have a complete breakdown over me deciding to wash my own dishes!

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RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! - 6/20/2006 10:46:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: missalice

Um... One of my slave pets has been known to have a complete breakdown over me deciding to wash my own dishes!

The third time Master came to visit me ( this was before I moved to be nearer to him ), after dinner, he got up to help me wash the dishes. He said the look on my face was more than worth it. I was so shocked and upset that he was going to do that, I spent 10 minutes arguing with him about it before I realized what I was saying.
It was quite an interesting insight, and one that I have never forgotten. Now, when he does things like that, I just accept it for what it is. Something that HE feels good doing.

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RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! - 6/20/2006 11:05:47 AM   
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Greetings,

Maybemaybenot, Daddyscologirl and Taylore… I was touched by your posts.

Thank you everyone for your time and effort in replying to my question.

Take care,
Master96,

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RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! - 6/20/2006 11:09:57 AM   
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No.. It just makes you a more wonderful dominant :)

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RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! - 6/20/2006 11:14:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: yourbadgal

No.. It just makes you a more wonderful dominant :)



Thank you yourbadgal...

Master96,

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RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! - 6/20/2006 12:04:32 PM   
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now thats a question huh .... let me first state my own case .. I am a believer in public the slave is MY lady she will conduct herself and act as such . in the bedroom she is my slut .. thats just my outlook tho .... and to the rest of this thread . I firmly believe in doing something caring and nice for the slave .... I personally like to see them taken care of too .... and in doing that I find she will want even more to take care of MY needs.

Like Sab .. I dare anyone to question my manliness or Dominance .. I just like seeing a women smile and be happy she is who she is and doing what she is doing to make me happy so I give a little back to her

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RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! - 6/22/2006 3:56:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Master96

Dear slaves and submissives,

The nature of D/s lifestyle tells us that the slave cares for one thing… her/his owner’s pleasure and satisfaction.

On the other hand, me as a Dom wants to show my appreciation to my slave, I enjoy using her as I want, and to tease her and torture her… but from time to time I want to treat her as a Lady…for example taking her to a fancy restaurant on dinner… I love her, she is giving so much to me… she do anything to me.. (Still I want her to call me Sir and to know her place)

Don’t get me wrong… I’m not a switch, and I don’t submit... with all my respect to male-subs and Dommes.

My question is, does that make me a less dominate from the submissive perspective? (Like in the vanilla relationship… when a woman disrespects a man when he wears her pantyhose… she looks at him as a less masculine.)

Thanks,
Master,


In my submissive eyes, absolutely not. That's like asking whether it makes you less of a dominant to take care of your submissive after you scene; instead of just letting her lay there, or standing there, depending on the situation.

My dominant tucks me in, cuddles, and makes sure i'm not hurt too badly after we scene. This doesn't make him any weaker or 'less of a dominant' than any other one.

However, this doesn't mean you won't get the randon dominant who thinks they should be uncaring of what their submissives think, and look down on any dominant who does. Don't listen to these guys.

Listen to your submissive and go from there.


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RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! - 6/22/2006 6:39:57 PM   
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Dear litleone8620,

You have such beautiful submissive eyes…

Thank you very very much.

Master96,


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RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! - 6/22/2006 8:52:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: hizgeorgiapeach

Less masculine?  Less dominant??  Ummmmmm.... what have you been doing, listening to the twits who think  you have to be a complete jerk and absolutely self absorbed or you aren't "dominant enough"????
 
I fully EXPECT my dominant to treat me like a lady, to show me as much affection and respect as I show him, and to remain a Gentleman.  This is not a one way street, and if he doesn't treat me well I get unhappy.  If I get unhappy, he starts finding that I'm neither obedient nor subservient to his will.  There are times and places for everything, and if he wants to grab me by the hair and toss me to the bed or his feet while we're at home, or spank me until my butt is the shade of a coke can, then that's a great place for the caveman routine.  Out in public, I expect him to show  pride in and care for me - and to let those around us see that he has that pride in having me at his side.  If he is incapable of showing pride in me being with him, then I probably don't really want to be with him - in public, OR in private.


About sums up my response as well.... excellent post.


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RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! - 6/22/2006 9:46:13 PM   
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In my new eyes, any Master/Dominant must be a Gentleman 1st, and no kind gesture could ever be percieved as "weak".....more a sign of your own self-confidence, and very admirable.

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RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! - 6/23/2006 6:56:27 PM   
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Would not consider spending time with a Dom that did not know how to treat me like a lady.  Does not mean i don't also want the opportunity to be His slut as well.  Just timing i think is what is important lol and that is apparently up to individual taste.

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RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! - 6/24/2006 5:16:17 AM   
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As a chivalrous sub, i don't think treating every Woman properly makes any of us less sub or Dom.  There are customs of respect that go beyond D/s, especially when you have a parralell vanilla relationship. althalus.

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RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! - 6/24/2006 6:08:12 AM   
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Speaking as a slave, and possibly in the minority, the only way it would not make me uncomfortable is if I knew that Master was doing it for His own pleasure. If he were doing it because it was what I wanted, I dont know if I would be so comfortable, but then perhaps making me uncomfortable might make Him happy.. so.. hmmm.... vicious circle?  LOL

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RE: Master.... in slaves' eyes! - 6/24/2006 8:45:07 AM   
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...if i may, let me equate this to productivity in the workplace...
it is the managers who treat their people not just fairly, but very well who get the best productivity and loyalty from their staff.  wouldn't the same hold true for a Dominant who treated His/Her submissive very well get the most "productivity" and loyalty from them?
 
i know when i am treated well, the person doing so gets it returned......ten-fold.

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