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SirMichealspeach -> Question for Dr's or nurses (6/19/2006 12:22:47 AM)

First of all :  I am allergic to  penicillan;
Master is  taking antibiotics  and i am curious as to whether or not antibiotics can be transfered through His semen.I have asked Him and He says He doesen't think so  but i would like the  opinion of  a profession in this matter..
Thanks  in advance
peach



liljoy -> RE: Question for Dr's or nurses (6/19/2006 12:34:40 AM)

Gosh that's something i'd never even thought about. so i can't really give you a firm answer. personally i'd say it's not worth the risk
lil_joy



sabswife -> RE: Question for Dr's or nurses (6/19/2006 3:20:22 AM)

i was curious on this, and figured most likely since it would be present in say breastmilk, why not semen?  so i looked it up and it appears its a yes :

"Dr. Solensky's comments:
I know I have seen a case report (probably in abstract form only) of a woman reacting to her sexual partner's semen due to the presence of trace amounts of penicillin. I don't recall how severe the reaction was. I don't recall the exact reference. So, while it is theoretically possible, I would see this occurring only in the most exquisitely pcn-sensitive individual. The vast majority of pcn-allergic women should not experience any reaction in such a situation. There is of course also the issue of whether the women is truly allergic, since, as you know, pcn-specific IgE antibodies are known to wane over time. Therefore, it would make sense to perform pcn skin testing on such a female patient (once we hopefully have PrePen back on the market next year), since overall only 5-10% of patients with a history of pcn allergy turn out to have positive skin tests. Lastly, if a women has reacted to her partner's semen, an allergy to the semen itself should also be evaluated. I hope that helps."



FangsNfeet -> RE: Question for Dr's or nurses (6/19/2006 8:50:04 AM)

Sorry to tell you but Penicillan does transfer through semen and urine. Infact, it transfers so well, that medics in WWI would have soldiers drink the urine as a method of not running out of rashions. If you don't belive me, ask your local pharmacist.



albear -> RE: Question for Dr's or nurses (6/20/2006 5:05:13 AM)

Hiya SirMichealspeach,

I'm a pharmacy student, and as far as I know, some antibiotics can be found in the semen of the man taking them. If you know the name of what he's taking I can tell you if it's related to penicillin. Otherwise just to be safe I'd avoid swallowing his cum and use a barrier contraceptive for the course and a couple of days after he's finished. [:)]



Royalton -> RE: Question for Dr's or nurses (7/9/2006 11:54:47 PM)

Unless the allergic reaction causes you respiratory difficulty (glottis edema) and unless the PCN was prescribed for urinary infection you should not worry.
The amount of PCN excreted in urine is about 1000 times less than a regular dose, and this in cases it is intended to be excreted (urinary infections)
Otherwise, for other types of infections (lungs, skin, etc.), PCN is usually paired with a compound that keeps it out of the kidney (so it is more effective) so the levels in urine are going to be smaller.
In any case, if you are worried, spit out until a wekk afte rthe last dose.  Peace of mind = better orgasms.



Curiossdragnlily -> RE: Question for Dr's or nurses (7/10/2006 4:52:00 PM)

wow...thank you for this thread...i never knew that or even thought of it....it makes me wonder about other medicines or perhaps even some foods...since they also pass thru breast milk...can they also pass thru other bodily fluids...
with respect,
lily, collared and owned slave of Master Curios
srn 308-692-331



Royalton -> RE: Question for Dr's or nurses (7/10/2006 10:03:30 PM)

onions and garlic are the classics.  Enter the bloodstream through the intestine, and exit through the lungs as the blood circulate through them.  that is why it is so difficult to get rid of that breath...it keeps coming...not to mention the flavor that they give to breast milk

eat lots of beets and your urine will be red

there are quite a few medications that are not to be used by lactating mothers because they are excreted in the breast milk

there is a medication for meningitis and tuberculosis called Rifampicin that colors the tears, so it is advised not to wear soft contacts because they can get stained.



justheather -> RE: Question for Dr's or nurses (7/11/2006 6:26:03 PM)

If you know the name of the drug you can easily find out how the drug is excreted from the prescribing information pamphlet or an online search for a copy of the same insert. Bear in mind that this drug is going to be metabolized by the liver and therefore will not be excreted as the same chemical compound it was when it was initially taken. Also, not all antibiotics are related to PCN. Still, unless he is on some extended antibiotic therapy, it might be wise to be safe rather than sorry.

Id probably not rely on medical advice from this forum, but rather ask your pharmacist for the prescribing information insert and check it out or contact the manufacturer for a copy.

Edited cause I apparently cant spell.
PS please fill us in when you find out the answer!



MistrssM -> RE: Question for Dr's or nurses (7/16/2006 6:48:52 AM)

wow good question! I think some drugs might transfer more then others...



popeye1250 -> RE: Question for Dr's or nurses (8/6/2006 10:26:46 PM)

Just Heather, um, wouldn't it be a little "awkward" to ask a pharmicist whether you can "swallow" or not if your guy is taking pcn? (lolol)
I can see if she gets a junior pharmacist with a bunch of people inline behind her; "Hey Charlie! This woman wants to know if she can swallow during a B.J. if her husband is taking pennicillin!"
"Huh?"
"CAN SHE SWALLOW DURING A BLOW JOB WITH PENNICILLIN???"
"Charlie's a little hard of hearing."



Noah -> RE: Question for Dr's or nurses (8/6/2006 10:37:59 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Just Heather, um, wouldn't it be a little "awkward" to ask a pharmicist whether you can "swallow" or not if your guy is taking pcn? (lolol)
I can see if she gets a junior pharmacist with a bunch of people inline behind her; "Hey Charlie! This woman wants to know if she can swallow during a B.J. if her husband is taking pennicillin!"
"Huh?"
"CAN SHE SWALLOW DURING A BLOW JOB WITH PENNICILLIN???"
"Charlie's a little hard of hearing."


You rock, Popeye!

Thanks for the laugh and another great humiliation play concept.

And I sure hope Charlie explains based on his medical expertise that swallowing afterward is one thing but if she can swallow during then she's just not applying herself properly.



Emperor1956 -> RE: Question for Dr's or nurses (8/6/2006 10:39:21 PM)

quote:

popeye1250 said:  Just Heather, um, wouldn't it be a little "awkward" to ask a pharmicist whether you can "swallow" or not if your guy is taking pcn? (lolol)


No, actually.  Grown ups who work in health care deal with this sort of question all the time.

JustHeather's intelligent answer was pretty much dead on.  The modern PCN derivatives are designed with "barriers" that keep them in the body longer (the most common I think of is Augmentin, or amox/clav, which is pcn blended with clavunlanate acid to enhance the "bug fighting" characteristic.  It is powerful and is prescribed for just about any non-viral, non-fungal infection).  As a PCN allergy can be very serious, I wouldn't risk it -- use a barrier, or at the least, don't swallow.

Most drugs have a shedding effect through urine or feces, breast milk, and semen.  We rarely notice this effect as the dosages are low, and the effects of the drugs are usually beneficial.  Vaccination theory in fact relies on shedding effect -- the truly effective vaccine programs (polio and smallpox for instance) rely on the idea that vaccinated persons (usually children) will shed the vaccine and secondarily vaccinate their families and friends.  This becomes a major public health problem when we have a population of immuno-suppressed persons (like in 21st C. USA) who can develop polio (for example) from contact with a recently vaccinated child.  In light of the relatively large numbers of HIV+, or chemotherapy patients, or Hep C patients, or even diabetics in our society, shedding of vaccine becomes a real issue.

E.



justheather -> RE: Question for Dr's or nurses (8/7/2006 5:41:43 AM)

Yes, that might be terribly awkward, if I felt obligated to explain the circumstances surrounding why I wanted something every time I wanted it from a person who is paid to give it to me anyway.

You may feel that obligation. I do not.

Are you also accustomed to asking the waitress if you and your lovely lady friend can please have your check now because you are about to go home and fuck for twelve hours like wanton dogs in heat on the coffee table?

People are not required to give out any more information than they choose.

Here's an idea:
You: Hi, there Ms. Pharmacy-lady.
Pharmacist: Hi there, Popeye.
You: Tell me Ms. Pharmacy-lady...this new drug Im taking. How exactly is that excreted from the body?
Pharmacist: Well, Popeye, that's a great question! I have the package insert right here. It says it is excreted through the ________ and the __________.
You: Thank you, Pharmacy-lady! Say, does it happen to list any other ways this drug may be excreted or are they the only two?
Pharmacist: Well, let's see. No, it just lists those two.
You: Thank you, Pharmacy-lady.
Pharmacist: You are welcome, Popeye.

And Im pretty sure that what I suggested was: "ask for the manufacturer's insert", not "tell them you want your boyfriend to cum in your mouth and is that ok".

(Edited for bitchiness. Unable to guarantee there is no trace residual.)






tasha_tart -> RE: Question for Dr's or nurses (8/7/2006 12:35:16 PM)

Excerpt from Research Findings Unveiled on Common and Unusual Allergies:
 

2:45 pm, Nov. 15: “Anaphylaxis to Ingestion of Cephalexin-Containing Semen” (Abstract #63) - A. J. Ham Pong, Ottawa, Canada, et al - Researchers document what they believe is the first case report of systemic reaction to ingested semen occurring in an atopic, penicillin-sensitive woman likely caused by cephalixin excreted in the semen or through urine contamination.

Excerpt from Allergy & Asthma Disease Management Center: Ask the Expert:
 

9/19/2005   RE: Reactions to penicillin in semen




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Can a person who is allergic to a drug (i.e. penicillin) have an allergic reaction from having sexual intercourse with a person who is taking the drug? It seems this might be plausible since drugs are excreted in breast milk, sweat, tears, etc.

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To help respond to your question, I obtained input from Dr. Roland Solensky, an expert in penicillin allergy reactions. His response is enclosed below. I should emphasize the importance of determining whether the woman has had a reaction to the semen of her partner when the partner had not taken any medications for several days. If a reaction has occurred, she could well be reacting to a component in the fluid portion of the semen itself.

Dr. Solensky's comments:
I know I have seen a case report (probably in abstract form only) of a woman reacting to her sexual partner's semen due to the presence of trace amounts of penicillin. I don't recall how severe the reaction was. I don't recall the exact reference. So, while it is theoretically possible, I would see this occurring only in the most exquisitely pcn-sensitive individual. The vast majority of pcn-allergic women should not experience any reaction in such a situation. There is of course also the issue of whether the women is truly allergic, since, as you know, pcn-specific IgE antibodies are known to wane over time. Therefore, it would make sense to perform pcn skin testing on such a female patient (once we hopefully have PrePen back on the market next year), since overall only 5-10% of patients with a history of pcn allergy turn out to have positive skin tests. Lastly, if a women has reacted to her partner's semen, an allergy to the semen itself should also be evaluated. I hope that helps.


So, it would seem that it is a possibility.  Most prudent course would be to avoid performing oral sex while the male receiving oral sex is on penicillin, or similar antibiotics, and for a few days after.
 
However, posting a question on here should not be the first resort for medical questions.  Embarassing though it may be, one should be directing medical questions to his or her medical practitioner: OB-GYN, allergist, family doctor, cardiologist, etc.  They have almost certainly had questions from patients (or seen/treated things) that are far "stranger" than yours.
 
Tasha



tasha_tart -> RE: Question for Dr's or nurses (8/7/2006 1:09:46 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

Sorry to tell you but Penicillan does transfer through semen and urine. Infact, it transfers so well, that medics in WWI would have soldiers drink the urine as a method of not running out of rashions. If you don't belive me, ask your local pharmacist.


Penicillin was not developed in commercial quantities until the 1940s, and was not available at all in WWI. (Penicillin history)
 
During clinical trials, unmetabolized penicillin was distilled from the urine of test subjects. (Penicillin: Medicine's Wartime Wonder Drug and Its Production at Peoria, Illinois)
 
During World War Two penicillin was apparently extracted from urine as well, at least on an experimental basis.(Stretching Penicillin)
 
As for drinking the urine, I have come across anecdotal evidence of this on the net, but it is mostly of the "we were told that medics in the XYZ sector were doing this" variety.
 
Tasha
 
 



SexyRed -> RE: Question for Dr's or nurses (8/7/2006 2:01:38 PM)

It must be true; it was on the TV show House a few weeks ago. [;)]



StrongButKind -> RE: Question for Dr's or nurses (8/8/2006 7:09:10 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SirMichealspeach

First of all :  I am allergic to  penicillan;
Master is  taking antibiotics  and i am curious as to whether or not antibiotics can be transfered through His semen.I have asked Him and He says He doesen't think so  but i would like the  opinion of  a profession in this matter..
Thanks  in advance
peach


Yes. The danger level is dependent on many factors which cannot be adequately summer up in this forum -- it would be a mistake to expose yourself without advice of a physician.



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