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prove them wrong! - 11/8/2004 9:17:00 AM   
zuchtstute1969


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this is a second posting, she wanted it here, so that slaves can read what the Dom/mes are saying...

slave zuchtstute has a had over 20 Doms/Domme commenting on her journal entry that her Master posted,

i browse through these profiles, and must bitterly realize that quiet an amount of people who write they want this or want that, are truly not what they write they are. I've contacted quiet a few of "i want to be a true slave"-females, who turned silent after they were big on promises and showed interests. If you're not into what your profile declares, then you do not belong here. For me it is like you're lieing to your car-dealer where you're byuing your next car from when they ask you for your personal info's. That ruins quiet a lot your creditability. This website is intended to find each other in the S/M-LIFESTYLE scene, and not for some vanilla's. about how true it is here on collareme. I'm going to post the entry...If there are subs out there that feel the same way please respond back...
she is needing slaves to prove to these Doms/Dommes, that there are REAL slaves/Subs looking for REAL ownership. Theses Dom/me, are looking for the same thing most slaves are looking for, NOT players, Most of U/us want the real thing! and yes i will be sending this link to all the Dom/mes that have contacted me....so please if you see one that looks interesting, let them know it. Right now this slave has about 15 Doms looking for a real time slaves...and reason why they contact me is that collarme and other web sites have failed them so now they are trying the one-in-one approach, and slave doesn't have that many friends! Please comment, and help!
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RE: prove them wrong! - 11/8/2004 9:48:43 AM   
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I'd suggest finding your local munch crowd zuchtstute. Although i can't guarantee that your local munch won't have players in it, at the very least, it seems to filter out the "online fantasy" crowd that we find here.

It should be known too, that patience is something that is required when looking for a compatible match in any lifestyle. Even the vanilla community complains of finding matches a hard thing and the numbers are definitely on their side. Our picking pool is a little smaller i'd say.

Good luck. Don't let the cross section of profiles on here give you a false impression, there are real people out there looking for compatibility.

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RE: prove them wrong! - 11/8/2004 9:48:50 AM   
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Please clarify more about your post. Are you complaining that there are not enough "true" slaves out there? And that these Doms are writing to you because they have no one else to turn to? They are wanting you to hook up your friends to them? It was a little confusing to me.

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RE: prove them wrong! - 11/8/2004 10:46:52 AM   
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I am a littel confused since zuchstute is the one who started a post back awhile about breeder slaves, and how her dom kept her pregnant all the time. How is your August baby doing anyway?
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RE: prove them wrong! - 11/8/2004 10:53:29 AM   
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what is a REAL slave/sub.... isn't that decided by the two that are getting involved. just because i may not be someone's definition of a sub doesn't mean i'm not a sub......it just means i'm not the type of sub that person is looking for...and perhaps they're not the type of Master i'm looking for. this lifestyle means different things to different people and part of what i like about it is the ability to have the choice to decide what is right for me. only i know what my needs, wants and desires are, no one else does unless i tell them...its up to me to find the one that matches those so that i can submit and be the best that i am.....

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RE: prove them wrong! - 11/8/2004 11:22:05 AM   
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ok usually i post in slave mode, but today this has this slave a bit riled up. for one: I am a REAL SLAVE, 2, I HAVE A MASTER AND AM HAPPY SERVING HIM, 3 I DON'T MAKE PROMISES I KNOW I CAN'T KEEP, 4I SERVE Him to the BEST OF MY ABILITIES, 5, ONLY MASTER KNOWS WHAT I NEED WANT AND DESIRE AND IT'S BECAUSE HE HAS TAUGHT ME TO BE OPEN, HONEST AND SPEAK MY MIND.

MY PROFILE HERE SIMPLY STATES I AM TAKEN BUT THAT DUE TO A LONG DISTANCE RELATIONSHIP WITH MY MASTER I AM SEEKING LOCAL DOM/DOMME'S WHOM I MAY SERVE OR HAVE A "PLAY" SESSION WITH ON OCCASION TO KEEP ME ON MY TOES AND READY FOR THE NEXT VISIT I HAVE WITH MY MASTER.

ONLY SLAVES/SUBS TRULY KNOW WHAT THEY WANT, NEED, DESIRE AND THEREFORE IT'S UP TO THEM TO TELL THE DOM/DOMME OF THEIR CHOICE AFTER GETTING TO KNOW EACH OTHER WELL ENOUGH TO DECIDE IF THERE IS SOMETHING BETWEEN THEM OR NOT.

SORRY FOR GOING OFF ON A TANGENT BUT THIS SLAVE HAS HER BELIEFS, WANTS, NEEDS AND DESIRES TOO AND HER NEED WAS TO RESPOND TO THIS POST.

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RE: prove them wrong! - 11/8/2004 11:54:08 AM   
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quote:


I am a littel confused since zuchstute is the one who started a post back awhile about breeder slaves, and how her dom kept her pregnant all the time.


as always, thanks for the link(!!!!) to zuchstute's previous posting and the ensuing discussion about "breeders". it has definitely helped in understanding her Master's post and why they are having such a difficult time understanding the lack of what they consider to be "true slaves" here at CM.

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RE: prove them wrong! - 11/8/2004 12:48:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: zuchtstute1969
Right now this slave has about 15 Doms looking for a real time slaves...and reason why they contact me is that collarme and other web sites have failed them so now they are trying the one-in-one approach, and slave doesn't have that many friends! Please comment, and help!


Not that many friends who are willing to spend the rest of their fertile lives as breeders?? Ummmmm, no offense, but that can only be a good thing, if you ask me... There is something highly disturbing to this girl about a woman being referred to as a breeder. I thought that was exclusively the realm of farm animals (yes, seriously).

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RE: prove them wrong! - 11/8/2004 2:08:03 PM   
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"she is needing slaves to prove to these Doms/Dommes, that there are REAL slaves/Subs looking for REAL ownership. "

I think many people you approach may see this as a red flag, as I would. To me, anyone who declares that there is one true way to live and experience slavery is not someone I would want to be with.

"If you're not into what your profile declares, then you do not belong here."

Maybe they're into what their profile states, but not in the way you imagine? To me, I can see this as a fault of reception as well as one of misrepresentation. Don't get me wrong, I've met my share of flakes who talk a good game but balk at real contact. However, perhaps your owner enjoys acts in a certain way, and the people he approaches enjoy them another way.

Additionally, I know I'm mostly hesitant to respond to anyone who states that they are looking "for someone else." This is probably just personal preference.

Oh, and seconded what cariad said, 'cept I live with my partner and our dynamic is very non-traditional. Still, I am his, and other's perceptions of our situation won't change that.

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RE: prove them wrong! - 11/8/2004 2:27:12 PM   
Laura


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I don't think a "real" Dom would ask a sub to be his pimp.

I also don't believe I have to prove anything. I know who I am.

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RE: prove them wrong! - 11/8/2004 5:33:21 PM   
zuchtstute1969


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This is what people, who have profiles on this site have come said to me...i have also read similiar postings/journal entries from others on her too. that they are tired of emailing prospective sub/slaves and never getting a reply back. They are tired of talking with someone thinking that they are buliding a relationship that is going to somewhere, then all of the sudden nothing, they drop off the face of the earth. also, why can't a sub, play matchmaker? as a sub/slave i have friends that are seeking/searching....and being part of the scene i have Dom/Domme friends looking...if it works out great, and if it doesn't there are more fishies in the sea. But after about the 30th person, emailing stating i understand your journal entry it made me put this up on a message board...what is highlighted in blue is what the journal entry reads.... it is not about proving who you are..it is proving to a lot of people on this site, that there are true, single lifestylers availible and looking for real time relationships. What i want to see, is sub/slaves saying! Yes i'm real, and i'm having a hard time because of ...... also would like to hear about success stories...share them too....let them know this site works....and they should keep coming back.

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RE: prove them wrong! - 11/8/2004 5:36:30 PM   
zuchtstute1969


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THANK YOU this is what i want to hear!! and i couldn't agree with you more....but like you said needs/wants/desires after getting to know the person. building trust..yes...but also having a enough since if it is not a right fit, to stand up to the person and say, hey no this is NOT going to work...YOU GOT IT!

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RE: prove them wrong! - 11/9/2004 1:48:06 AM   
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Back when I was in a 24/7 relationship, my mistress would often rebuke me for automatically doing things for other people. "Will you quit subbing for everybody!" she would demand of me. The fact was, and is, if I like someone, I want to make them happy, and thus my submissive nature peeks out in a variety of ways. That being said, I am actually very picky about who I sub for, and people who are unnessesarily demanding, pushy, or opinionated (as is implied by the tone of your master's commentary) will often get me to forget even simple manners when dealing with them.

As my mistress taught me, so I repeat frequently to many subs I meet here: "I am a submissive, not a doormat. I serve because it completes me to do so. I am a human being with my own thoughts and desires. I want, I need, I think, I feel. If you can not handle this fact, I can find someone to replace you".

In general, anyone who comes here complaining about the lack of "real submissives" has my respect and admiration for the fakir-like degree of body control nessessary for such an intimate level of rectal self-examination. Such masters of yoga should be admired and put on display for the edification of the general public. I've been considering starting a road show of human oddities. Would your master be interested in headlining as the human oroborus?

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RE: prove them wrong! - 11/9/2004 5:33:51 AM   
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ok.. I'm lost, for the life of me I can't determine what the purpose of this thread is. Is is about?:

1. The perils of getting communication going between Dom/mes and subs?
2. The accpeptance or lack there of of the term "Slave"?
3. The pimping of slaves for thier master?
4. Inconsistentcies in the original posters story?
5. All of the above?

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RE: prove them wrong! - 11/9/2004 6:04:59 AM   
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MaitresseEden:

I believe the only purpose of this thread was to elicit Sulieman's amusing response about the "road show of human oddities" and also so we could learn the word "oroborus".

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RE: prove them wrong! - 11/9/2004 7:06:45 AM   
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Actually.. "oroborus" isn't a word. Perhaps he meant:

op·pro·bri·ous ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-prbr-s)
adj.
Expressing contemptuous reproach; scornful or abusive: opprobrious epithets.
Bringing disgrace; shameful or infamous: opprobrious conduct.



Sorry, the linguist-o-phile in me couldn't resist a trip to dictionary.com over that one.

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RE: prove them wrong! - 11/9/2004 7:16:05 AM   
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lol, happypervert, you crack me up!! I love Suleiman's posts. They make me get out a dictionary and they are very literary. I'd love to get you two in a coffee shop some time. I'm such a hedonist.

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RE: prove them wrong! - 11/9/2004 8:03:28 AM   
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*Bites her tongue*

but would like to know about that Aug. baby also...


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RE: prove them wrong! - 11/9/2004 8:06:24 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MaitresseEden

Actually.. "oroborus" isn't a word. Perhaps he meant:

op·pro·bri·ous

I'm fairly certain he meant ouroboros. Context is everything.

~stef


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RE: prove them wrong! - 11/9/2004 8:12:54 AM   
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I'd like to know what happened to the baby also. Did she keep him/her? Or, put up for adoption?

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