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RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? - 2/9/2013 9:46:27 PM

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the askenazis arespread thoughout europe so having a german name is meaningless

It is a common trope in religion threads for the usual suspects to equate Christianity (and sometimes religion in general) with its worst examples, and nobody would deny that Judaism has its own share. But to equate Judaism and being Jewish with those bad examples committs the same logical fallacy. Certain people seem prone to finding a Christian under every bed, you appear to be looking for Jews.

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RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? - 2/9/2013 10:04:12 PM

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Ancestors of Dwight David Eisenhower

Here is his family tree, he was not Jewish, his family was never Jewish, and you can see that in this .pdf

Now strangely enough, I can find one reference to the quote by a "journalist" however it also has a biography of Dwight D. Eisenhower that is wrong in both assignments after the Pearl Harbor attack and his rank at the time of the start of the war.

As far as your quote, first it cannot be verified anywhere in his writings, his letters personal and official, no where... Except various sites promoting the myth that he was Jewish.

His letters to his wife were used in a PBS special, "The American Experience" and the quote attributed to him according to you and unreliable sources and Bob Jones never showed up.

Want to prove it was actually written by Ike, surely you can find a source for this quote somewhere that is not in violation of the TOS.

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RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? - 2/9/2013 10:11:26 PM

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well this is a holocaust = antisemite thread in reference to and resulting from jew v german ideologies

when discussing the term holocaust in reference to the loss of life that is jewish in origin, and based on claims of jews of mistreatment payments are going to israel from many countries for reparations.

The whole premise of this thread is directly related to the jew/german interactions of that era and if denial of a holocaust offering to G-D is antisemetic.

I went through a lot of trouble to highlight all for Jeff and he pretends it was never posted and walks this down every red herring argument he can to defer from rather than addressing my holocaust response to his own OP.

So its clearly not a case of looking for jews but making the necesay distinctions to come to reasonable conclusions if holacaust denial is antisemitic?

So far as I have concluded from this discussion as it stands is that the word Jew is slang, denying the holocaust cannot be antisemite because semites include tribes that hate jews, that holocaust is not genocide but a religious jewish saficial offering to G-D and could be said to be judaic but not generally semitic without a proper qualifier of a specific religion or the like.

yeh this is totally about jew v german religious/political war.

any reasonable person after reviewing the posts I made should be leaving this thread with newly opened eyes how governments do not work for you but for their own benefice while you get to fight over the crumbs and being forced to give even that back. It should help people to realize that the common folk are being terrorized by their own governments with propaganda tactics.

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RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? - 2/9/2013 10:13:50 PM

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Ancestors of Dwight David Eisenhower

Here is his family tree, he was not Jewish, his family was never Jewish, and you can see that in this .pdf

Now strangely enough, I can find one reference to the quote by a "journalist" however it also has a biography of Dwight D. Eisenhower that is wrong in both assignments after the Pearl Harbor attack and his rank at the time of the start of the war.

As far as your quote, first it cannot be verified anywhere in his writings, his letters personal and official, no where... Except various sites promoting the myth that he was Jewish.

His letters to his wife were used in a PBS special, "The American Experience" and the quote attributed to him according to you and unreliable sources and Bob Jones never showed up.

Want to prove it was actually written by Ike, surely you can find a source for this quote somewhere that is not in violation of the TOS.

yeh I dont have to look its been around for years. there is other documentation that is more forensic. You said the same shit about htler and I had to show you but this is getting tedious and I am getting bored frankly since I have already proven your whole premise to be seriously flawed.

now you apologize for school records.

they always call chinese jewish too when they have nothign better to do.

I showed you the school record and that is as far as I am going to spend my time on it.

give it a rest I am bored.

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RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? - 2/9/2013 10:25:52 PM

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RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? - 2/9/2013 10:51:44 PM

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So when you use the word holocaust you no longer have a definite meaning, and its meaning is dependent on the education level of the person you are conveying the information.

So Merriam Webster doesn't properly identify the word? I posted this before, but apparently reading it really depends on the education level of the person I am conveying the message too.

Definition of HOLOCAUST

1
: a sacrifice consumed by fire
2
: a thorough destruction involving extensive loss of life especially through fire <a nuclear holocaust>[/b]
3
a often capitalized : the mass slaughter of European civilians and especially Jews by the Nazis during World War II —usually used with the
b : a mass slaughter of people; especially : genocide

Further, just to be as clear as possible for the less educated readers, the synonyms for "holocaust:"

Related Words bloodletting, bloodshed, foul play, homicide, killing, manslaughter, murder, slaying; mortality; annihilation, decimation, demolishing, destruction, devastation, [i]eradication, extermination; genocide, pogrom; assassination, execution

ETA: In order for Hitler to have been performing "holocaust ritual burnings," he would have had to be present and there would have been more to the ritual than simply burning bodies.

You pick and choose from the above definition only what suits you. Ignoring the other definitions simply shows your compulsive desire to keep pushing your own agenda.

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RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? - 2/9/2013 11:03:37 PM

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just lost credibility with me. If yo do not understand how countries view these matters you should not be arguing them.

An English paper, one that is considered a tabloid now, not sure back then, states the Jews have declared war on Germany through a boycott.

Sorry, toots, I dont need you to find me credible.

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I would go a step further I would be very worried if he DID find me credible.

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RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? - 2/10/2013 5:48:19 PM

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Folks....when you water weeds....they grow.....

The old school members here learnd years ago to ingore the creepiness....

The newer members are seeing why......

Stop watering the weeds....

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RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? - 2/10/2013 6:48:58 PM

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