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Anonymous strikes - - 1/26/2013 8:31:15 AM   
Yachtie


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Status: offline 		The time has come to show the United States Department of Justice and its affiliates the true meaning of infiltration. The time has come to give this system a taste of its own medicine. The time has come for them to feel the helplessness and fear that comes with being forced into a game where the odds are stacked against them.

This website was chosen due to the symbolic nature of its purpose — the federal sentencing guidelines which enable prosecutors to cheat citizens of their constitutionally-guaranteed right to a fair trial, by a jury of their peers — the federal sentencing guidelines which are in clear violation of the 8th amendment protection against cruel and unusual punishments. This website was also chosen due to the nature of its visitors. It is far from the only government asset we control, and we have exercised such control for quite some time…


Can't really say I disapprove. Matter of fact, I don't.

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RE: Anonymous strikes - - 1/26/2013 8:41:23 AM   
Nosathro


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie

The time has come to show the United States Department of Justice and its affiliates the true meaning of infiltration. The time has come to give this system a taste of its own medicine. The time has come for them to feel the helplessness and fear that comes with being forced into a game where the odds are stacked against them.

This website was chosen due to the symbolic nature of its purpose — the federal sentencing guidelines which enable prosecutors to cheat citizens of their constitutionally-guaranteed right to a fair trial, by a jury of their peers — the federal sentencing guidelines which are in clear violation of the 8th amendment protection against cruel and unusual punishments. This website was also chosen due to the nature of its visitors. It is far from the only government asset we control, and we have exercised such control for quite some time…


Can't really say I disapprove. Matter of fact, I don't.


What are you babeling about now?
Blakely v. Washington (2004), Guidelines are now considered advisory only, on both the federal and the state levels. Judges must calculate the guidelines and consider them when determining a sentence but are not required to issue sentences within the guidelines. Those sentences are still, however, subject to appellate review. The frequency in which sentences are imposed that exceed the range stated in the Guidelines has doubled in the years since the Booker decision.

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RE: Anonymous strikes - - 1/26/2013 9:42:11 AM   
DesideriScuri


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie
The time has come to show the United States Department of Justice and its affiliates the true meaning of infiltration. The time has come to give this system a taste of its own medicine. The time has come for them to feel the helplessness and fear that comes with being forced into a game where the odds are stacked against them.
This website was chosen due to the symbolic nature of its purpose — the federal sentencing guidelines which enable prosecutors to cheat citizens of their constitutionally-guaranteed right to a fair trial, by a jury of their peers — the federal sentencing guidelines which are in clear violation of the 8th amendment protection against cruel and unusual punishments. This website was also chosen due to the nature of its visitors. It is far from the only government asset we control, and we have exercised such control for quite some time…
Can't really say I disapprove. Matter of fact, I don't.


I can say I disapprove. Regardless of whether or not their claims are valid, this is a type of terrorism. There are proper channels, and this is not one of them.

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RE: Anonymous strikes - - 1/26/2013 9:59:13 AM   
MrRodgers


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quote:

ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie
The time has come to show the United States Department of Justice and its affiliates the true meaning of infiltration. The time has come to give this system a taste of its own medicine. The time has come for them to feel the helplessness and fear that comes with being forced into a game where the odds are stacked against them.
This website was chosen due to the symbolic nature of its purpose — the federal sentencing guidelines which enable prosecutors to cheat citizens of their constitutionally-guaranteed right to a fair trial, by a jury of their peers — the federal sentencing guidelines which are in clear violation of the 8th amendment protection against cruel and unusual punishments. This website was also chosen due to the nature of its visitors. It is far from the only government asset we control, and we have exercised such control for quite some time…
Can't really say I disapprove. Matter of fact, I don't.


I can say I disapprove. Regardless of whether or not their claims are valid, this is a type of terrorism. There are proper channels, and this is not one of them.

The neo-fascists have won you over...truth is treason. When govt. decides eveything that is allowed the light of exposure...society is all done and we are getting closer everyday.

War on Terror ? War on a tactic ?
Too big to fail in a free market ?
Banks that can't go bankrupt ?

Federal (taxpayer) insurance for capital...little or none for you. (the taxpayer)

Shall I go on ?

So I disagree completely, there are no more 'proper channels' thay are corrupted by inertia. (see above)

The light of day and freedom of the press is all we have left. Even Nixon would have remained in power if the whitehouse tape recorder hadn't work or he had destroyed those tapes.

< Message edited by MrRodgers -- 1/26/2013 10:03:13 AM >

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RE: Anonymous strikes - - 1/26/2013 10:19:55 AM   
DesideriScuri


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers
quote:

ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie
The time has come to show the United States Department of Justice and its affiliates the true meaning of infiltration. The time has come to give this system a taste of its own medicine. The time has come for them to feel the helplessness and fear that comes with being forced into a game where the odds are stacked against them.
This website was chosen due to the symbolic nature of its purpose — the federal sentencing guidelines which enable prosecutors to cheat citizens of their constitutionally-guaranteed right to a fair trial, by a jury of their peers — the federal sentencing guidelines which are in clear violation of the 8th amendment protection against cruel and unusual punishments. This website was also chosen due to the nature of its visitors. It is far from the only government asset we control, and we have exercised such control for quite some time…
Can't really say I disapprove. Matter of fact, I don't.

I can say I disapprove. Regardless of whether or not their claims are valid, this is a type of terrorism. There are proper channels, and this is not one of them.

The neo-fascists have won you over...truth is treason. When govt. decides eveything that is allowed the light of exposure...society is all done and we are getting closer everyday.
War on Terror ? War on a tactic ?
Too big to fail in a free market ?
Banks that can't go bankrupt ?
Federal (taxpayer) insurance for capital...little or none for you. (the taxpayer)
Shall I go on ?
So I disagree completely, there are no more 'proper channels' thay are corrupted by inertia. (see above)
The light of day and freedom of the press is all we have left. Even Nixon would have remained in power if the whitehouse tape recorder hadn't work or he had destroyed those tapes.


Neo-Fascists haven't won me over by any stretch.

Sadly, I do believe the "War on Terror" will effect the same results as the "War on Poverty" or the "War on Drugs."

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RE: Anonymous strikes - - 1/26/2013 10:22:35 AM   
jlf1961


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Status: offline 		Why cant Anonymous do something useful for us, like giving each of the decent members of Collarme the access codes for the Federal Reserve and the tools to hide our tracks?

Baring that, I would like them to hack in the DoD database and release the number of black ops missions ordered by Saint Ronald of Hollywood.

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RE: Anonymous strikes - - 1/26/2013 10:29:01 AM   
kdsub


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quote:

Can't really say I disapprove. Matter of fact, I don't.


I'd like to see the assholes butt fucked in a federal pen... There are ways to protest in this country and these fuckers with a little bit of knowledge think they are gods... eventually like all punks they will learn.

Butch

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RE: Anonymous strikes - - 1/26/2013 10:39:28 AM   
jlf1961


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quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

quote:

Can't really say I disapprove. Matter of fact, I don't.


I'd like to see the assholes butt fucked in a federal pen... There are ways to protest in this country and these fuckers with a little bit of knowledge think they are gods... eventually like all punks they will learn.

Butch



Actually, on one hand I agree with you, but I think their abilities would be best served getting information the american public deserves to know, as in the number of and nature of the Black Ops ordered by Reagan, among other things.

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RE: Anonymous strikes - - 1/26/2013 11:05:56 AM   
kdsub


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Status: offline 		It is not that I think our government is above hiding their actions from the American people but blackmail is just as bad...and with the American people in the middle.

Nothing can be hidden forever in this country and eventually the truth always comes out...we don't need a bunch of pimply faced kids dictating to our government…and me

Butch

< Message edited by kdsub -- 1/26/2013 11:08:36 AM >

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RE: Anonymous strikes - - 1/26/2013 1:26:32 PM   
Powergamz1


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Status: offline 		This is a form of illegal protest.
Agree with their ideology or not, it doesn't fit any standard definition of terrorism.
What was destroyed? What apalling level of violence took place? Who has been left in terror?
Where is the concrete damage and the scars?



quote:

ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie
The time has come to show the United States Department of Justice and its affiliates the true meaning of infiltration. The time has come to give this system a taste of its own medicine. The time has come for them to feel the helplessness and fear that comes with being forced into a game where the odds are stacked against them.
This website was chosen due to the symbolic nature of its purpose — the federal sentencing guidelines which enable prosecutors to cheat citizens of their constitutionally-guaranteed right to a fair trial, by a jury of their peers — the federal sentencing guidelines which are in clear violation of the 8th amendment protection against cruel and unusual punishments. This website was also chosen due to the nature of its visitors. It is far from the only government asset we control, and we have exercised such control for quite some time…
Can't really say I disapprove. Matter of fact, I don't.


I can say I disapprove. Regardless of whether or not their claims are valid, this is a type of terrorism. There are proper channels, and this is not one of them.



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RE: Anonymous strikes - - 1/26/2013 2:02:50 PM   
DesideriScuri


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Powergamz1
This is a form of illegal protest.
Agree with their ideology or not, it doesn't fit any standard definition of terrorism.
What was destroyed? What apalling level of violence took place? Who has been left in terror?
Where is the concrete damage and the scars?
quote:

ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie
The time has come to show the United States Department of Justice and its affiliates the true meaning of infiltration. The time has come to give this system a taste of its own medicine. The time has come for them to feel the helplessness and fear that comes with being forced into a game where the odds are stacked against them.
This website was chosen due to the symbolic nature of its purpose — the federal sentencing guidelines which enable prosecutors to cheat citizens of their constitutionally-guaranteed right to a fair trial, by a jury of their peers — the federal sentencing guidelines which are in clear violation of the 8th amendment protection against cruel and unusual punishments. This website was also chosen due to the nature of its visitors. It is far from the only government asset we control, and we have exercised such control for quite some time…
Can't really say I disapprove. Matter of fact, I don't.

I can say I disapprove. Regardless of whether or not their claims are valid, this is a type of terrorism. There are proper channels, and this is not one of them.



Terrorism
    quote:


    noun
    1.the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
    2.the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
    3.a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.


Now, let's see if we can finger out just how this could be terrorism...

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RE: Anonymous strikes - - 1/26/2013 2:30:35 PM   
Powergamz1


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Status: offline 		You just proved yourself wrong on every point, even with that homemade quote... there was no violence, no one is in fear, no one has submitted, Anonymous isnt governing anyone, etc.

http://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/terrorism/welcome.htm


Why don't you call it 'rape' or 'genocide' instead?

< Message edited by Powergamz1 -- 1/26/2013 2:32:41 PM >

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RE: Anonymous strikes - - 1/26/2013 2:37:36 PM   
Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

Neo-Fascists haven't won me over by any stretch.

Sadly, I do believe the "War on Terror" will effect the same results as the "War on Poverty" or the "War on Drugs."



whats that being in an eternal state of war so the emergency war powers act is in full effect forever allowing them to use to the extent of their own discretion?

when has this country been officially at peace allowing the constitution to go into full force, not that I advocate that rag either.



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Democracy; The 'People' voted on 'which' amendment?

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RE: Anonymous strikes - - 1/26/2013 2:40:54 PM   
Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

You just proved yourself wrong on every point, even with that homemade quote... there was no violence, no one is in fear, no one has submitted, Anonymous isnt governing anyone, etc.

http://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/terrorism/welcome.htm


Why don't you call it 'rape' or 'genocide' instead?



The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) defines terrorism as “the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.”


ah so there is an acknowledged distinction!

make that 2 sets of distinctions






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"We the Borg" of the us imperialists....resistance is futile

Democracy; The 'People' voted on 'which' amendment?

Yesterdays tinfoil is today's reality!

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RE: Anonymous strikes - - 1/26/2013 10:12:36 PM   
DesideriScuri


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Powergamz1
You just proved yourself wrong on every point, even with that homemade quote... there was no violence, no one is in fear, no one has submitted, Anonymous isnt governing anyone, etc.
http://www.nij.gov/topics/crime/terrorism/welcome.htm
Why don't you call it 'rape' or 'genocide' instead?


I wonder when I took control of dictionary.com...



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RE: Anonymous strikes - - 1/27/2013 8:34:23 AM   
leonine


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quote:

ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie
The time has come to show the United States Department of Justice and its affiliates the true meaning of infiltration. The time has come to give this system a taste of its own medicine. The time has come for them to feel the helplessness and fear that comes with being forced into a game where the odds are stacked against them.
This website was chosen due to the symbolic nature of its purpose — the federal sentencing guidelines which enable prosecutors to cheat citizens of their constitutionally-guaranteed right to a fair trial, by a jury of their peers — the federal sentencing guidelines which are in clear violation of the 8th amendment protection against cruel and unusual punishments. This website was also chosen due to the nature of its visitors. It is far from the only government asset we control, and we have exercised such control for quite some time…
Can't really say I disapprove. Matter of fact, I don't.


I can say I disapprove. Regardless of whether or not their claims are valid, this is a type of terrorism. There are proper channels, and this is not one of them.
So it's OK to resist the government with guns, but not with hacking?


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RE: Anonymous strikes - - 1/27/2013 9:13:55 AM   
DesideriScuri


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ORIGINAL: leonine
quote:

ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie
The time has come to show the United States Department of Justice and its affiliates the true meaning of infiltration. The time has come to give this system a taste of its own medicine. The time has come for them to feel the helplessness and fear that comes with being forced into a game where the odds are stacked against them.
This website was chosen due to the symbolic nature of its purpose — the federal sentencing guidelines which enable prosecutors to cheat citizens of their constitutionally-guaranteed right to a fair trial, by a jury of their peers — the federal sentencing guidelines which are in clear violation of the 8th amendment protection against cruel and unusual punishments. This website was also chosen due to the nature of its visitors. It is far from the only government asset we control, and we have exercised such control for quite some time…
Can't really say I disapprove. Matter of fact, I don't.

I can say I disapprove. Regardless of whether or not their claims are valid, this is a type of terrorism. There are proper channels, and this is not one of them.
So it's OK to resist the government with guns, but not with hacking?


Big difference. We have the right to petition our Government for redress of grievances. That right, however, is to peaceably assemble to that end. We have options that do not include illegal activities, too. It would take quite a situation for it to be right to resist Government with firearms, and that would entail more of a defensive stand. Now, if you could show that the illegal hacking activity is taking a defensive stand and isn't on the offensive, it might be a better analogy.


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  • Help for the truly needy
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RE: Anonymous strikes - - 2/1/2013 3:44:11 PM   
Owner59


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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Why cant Anonymous do something useful for us, like giving each of the decent members of Collarme the access codes for the Federal Reserve and the tools to hide our tracks?

Baring that, I would like them to hack in the DoD database and release the number of black ops missions ordered by Saint Ronald of Hollywood.



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