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ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess
My point is how could a representative EVER think that the law only applied to Christian schools. How can you not be aware, as a state rep, that the U.S. Constitution contains the Establishment Clause?

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Now that some conservatives have FINALLY figured this out, maybe we really will get some church/state separation on the issue of parochial schools. Maybe now conservatives will push for more strict separation when it comes to schools now that these laws can be used to fund, gasp, Islamic schools, Buddhist schools, Hindu schools, etc.

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Can anyone on this thread name ONE single law in the U.S. that operates to give government support to one religion's parochial school, but not parochial schools of other religions? I would like to know if there has ever been even one law on the books, ever in the history of the country, that did that???

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
I believe that the SCOTUS will beg to differ in the near future. Lets just start with equal protections...they are giving it to 'religious' schools, this voucher system...not to 'private' schools.  There had better be some overarching reason why the equal protections are not being met.
It is a piece of shit teabagger end run that is extremely inept (per usual) and so far, the SCOTUS has blown every one of these out.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
You sure they do? Why don't you find out and let us know?

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Republican Gov. Bobby Jindal says the voucher program will spur school competition and expand parental choice and has made it the cornerstone of his bold effort to reform public education in the state. But critics are concerned about funding and fairness -- vouchers would cover the full cost of tuition at more than 120 private schools, including small, Bible-based church schools.

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Louisiana is embarking on the nation's boldest experiment in privatizing public education, with the state preparing to shift tens of millions in tax dollars out of the public schools to pay private industry, businesses owners and church pastors to educate children.
Starting this fall, thousands of poor and middle-class kids will get vouchers covering the full cost of tuition at more than 120 private schools across Louisiana, including small, Bible-based church schools.

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By law, the value of each voucher can't exceed the sum the state would spend educating that child in public school -- on average, $8,800 a year. Small private schools often charge as little as $3,000 to $5,000 a year.

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But in the second part of his ruling, Kelley declared the diversion of funds from the Minimum Foundation Program (MFP) -- the formula under which per pupil public education funds are calculated -- to private entities was unconstitutional.

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Applies to all private schools


• Private schools may seek state approval, but are not required to do so. Schools not seeking state approval must
register with the state each year by the thirtieth day after the school session begins, submitting a signed letter registering the school year, the name of the school, contact information and the total number of students enrolled.

• The state Board of Education must appoint an advisory committee of private school representatives to advise the
board on standards and guidelines affecting these schools.


Applies only to approved private schools


• To receive state and federal funds, a private school must be “approved” by the state. Schools may be “provisionally
approved” if there are minor deficiencies in meeting state requirements, such as class size, or “probationally approved” if the school has more serious deficiencies, such as matters related to the credentials and experience of faculty and administrators. Each school is re-evaluated annually. A school that is provisionally or probationally approved for more than one consecutive year loses its approved status and its eligibility for state funding.

• Diplomas issued from approved private schools carry the same privileges and recognition as those issued by a
state public school.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
That already the court has struck it down in LA, and will probably be headed to SCOTUS to be gutted?

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
There is no acknowledgement that you were right, since you never said anything, and you provided nothing but commentary on side issues, not the actual law that was struck down and for what reason. 

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MN: I believe that the SCOTUS will beg to differ in the near future. Lets just start with equal protections...they are giving it to 'religious' schools, this voucher system...not to 'private' schools.

Me: You sure the vouchers don't apply to non-religious private schools?

MN: You sure they do? Why don't you find out and let us know?

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You sure the vouchers don't apply to non-religious private schools?
If every question you dishonestly ask is a statement, I am awaiting about 1200 I was wrongs from you and you were rights from you, before we get down to me.  All things in good order.
Secondly, and let me repeat this because it bears repeating, I see no credible citation on what the law actually said.  I see interpretations of it by suspect sources.  It aint the same.
Because if it was not a matter (and it would be deeper than the little blurb, APPROVED) of something that is a violation then under what grounds could it be illegal (as judged by their in state courts)? 
Oh, yeah...here is a hint, I already knew the answers to all this stuff at the beginning of the thread.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
what a waste of oxygen.  There is no clear proof of anything, you said nothing, you asked your cheesy dishonest questions, as you always do.
In any case, the idea is laughable, since it never made it out of the starting gate, typical teabagger incompetence, and unconstituionalism.
That is the entire point.  

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