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"Hagel is supported by The Friends Of Hamas" - 2/15/2013 9:23:56 AM   
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"Friends Of Hamas"

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On February 7, Breitbart News's Editor-at-Large Ben Shapiro published an explosive-looking story under the headline "Secret Hagel Donor? White House Ducks Question on 'Friends of Hamas.'" Quoting "Senate sources," Shapiro claimed that crucial documents on Hagel's "foreign funding" might be kept from the Senate Armed Services Committe because "one of the names listed is a group purportedly called "Friends of Hamas."

It was a short item, three paragraphs, the third paragraph consisting of White House assistant communications director Eric Schultz blowing off Shapiro. It caught fire on the right in no time. "That is quite the accusation," wrote Moe Lane at RedState. "All they have to do to debunk it is to have Hagel reveal his foreign donors." In the National Review, Andrew Stiles reported that "rumors abound on Capitol Hill that a full disclosure of Hagel’s professional ties would reveal financial relationships with a number of 'unsavory' groups, including one purportedly called 'Friends of Hamas.'"...

Here's the problem: There's no proof that "Friends of Hamas" actually exists. At best, it's an organization so secret that nobody in government has thought to mention its existence. At worst, it's as fake as Manti Te'o's girlfriend. The Treasury Department, which designates sponsors of terror, has done so to many charities tied to Hamas. "Friends of Hamas" is not among them. The State Department doesn't designate it, either. And a bit less holistically, a Lexis search for the group reveals absolutely nothing...

The point of the accusation is that Hagel has criticized Israel, so it's only natural to ask if he's receiving laundered terror money...

But the "Friends" accusation goes further than that. It supposes that a pro-terror group exists, and further supposes that the non-existent group would back Hagel somehow.

Remember, conspiracy inventors & believers:

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Denounce skeptics who debunk your claims as tools of the conspiracy, and make it clear that anyone who doubts your theory is a moron human-sheep hybrid creature afflicted with narcolepsy. Tell them they need to, “Wake UP, SHEEPLE!”


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RE: "Hagel is supported by The Friends Of Hamas" - 2/15/2013 9:44:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Fightdirecto
"Friends Of Hamas"
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On February 7, Breitbart News's Editor-at-Large Ben Shapiro published an explosive-looking story under the headline "Secret Hagel Donor? White House Ducks Question on 'Friends of Hamas.'" Quoting "Senate sources," Shapiro claimed that crucial documents on Hagel's "foreign funding" might be kept from the Senate Armed Services Committe because "one of the names listed is a group purportedly called "Friends of Hamas."
It was a short item, three paragraphs, the third paragraph consisting of White House assistant communications director Eric Schultz blowing off Shapiro. It caught fire on the right in no time. "That is quite the accusation," wrote Moe Lane at RedState. "All they have to do to debunk it is to have Hagel reveal his foreign donors." In the National Review, Andrew Stiles reported that "rumors abound on Capitol Hill that a full disclosure of Hagel’s professional ties would reveal financial relationships with a number of 'unsavory' groups, including one purportedly called 'Friends of Hamas.'"...
Here's the problem: There's no proof that "Friends of Hamas" actually exists. At best, it's an organization so secret that nobody in government has thought to mention its existence. At worst, it's as fake as Manti Te'o's girlfriend. The Treasury Department, which designates sponsors of terror, has done so to many charities tied to Hamas. "Friends of Hamas" is not among them. The State Department doesn't designate it, either. And a bit less holistically, a Lexis search for the group reveals absolutely nothing...
The point of the accusation is that Hagel has criticized Israel, so it's only natural to ask if he's receiving laundered terror money...
But the "Friends" accusation goes further than that. It supposes that a pro-terror group exists, and further supposes that the non-existent group would back Hagel somehow.

Remember, conspiracy inventors & believers:
Build Your Own Conspiracy Theory
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Denounce skeptics who debunk your claims as tools of the conspiracy, and make it clear that anyone who doubts your theory is a moron human-sheep hybrid creature afflicted with narcolepsy. Tell them they need to, “Wake UP, SHEEPLE!”


Are foreign donors even allowed? If they aren't allowed, there should be a disclosure of all foreign donors. If they are allowed, then, let the story die with the wind.


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RE: "Hagel is supported by The Friends Of Hamas" - 2/15/2013 2:43:31 PM   
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The rightie whackos are trying to paint Hagel as a scary-brown-Muslimy-lover.....


Won`t matter much outside of the luniatic fringe.......


Or in other words.....won`t matter much.

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RE: "Hagel is supported by The Friends Of Hamas" - 2/21/2013 7:25:31 AM   
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UPDATE as of 2-21-2013:

'Friends of Hamas': My role in the birth of a rumor

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The revelation could have doomed President Obama’s nomination of Chuck Hagel to be secretary of defense: He gave a paid speech to a group called “Friends of Hamas.”

Fortunately for Hagel, this claim, which galloped across the Internet, was bogus. I know, because I was the unwitting source.

In the process, I became part of an inadvertent demonstration of how quickly partisan agendas and the Internet can transform an obvious joke into a Washington talking point used by senators and presidential wannabes.

Here’s what happened: When rumors swirled that Hagel received speaking fees from controversial organizations, I attempted to check them out.

On Feb. 6, I called a Republican aide on Capitol Hill with a question: Did Hagel’s Senate critics know of controversial groups that he had addressed?

Hagel was in hot water for alleged hostility to Israel. So, I asked my source, had Hagel given a speech to, say, the “Junior League of Hezbollah, in France”? And: What about “Friends of Hamas”?

The names were so over-the-top, so linked to terrorism in the Middle East, that it was clear I was talking hypothetically and hyperbolically. No one could take seriously the idea that organizations with those names existed — let alone that a former senator would speak to them.

Or so I thought.

The aide promised to get back to me. I followed up with an e-mail, as a reminder: “Did he get $25K speaking fee from Friends of Hamas?” I asked.

The source never responded, and I moved on.

I couldn’t have imagined what would happen next. On Feb. 7, the conservative web site Breitbart.com screamed this headline:

“SECRET HAGEL DONOR?: WHITE HOUSE SPOX DUCKS QUESTION ON ‘FRIENDS OF HAMAS’”

The story read: “On Thursday, Senate sources told Breitbart News exclusively that they have been informed one of the reasons that President Barack Obama’s nominee for Secretary of Defense, Chuck Hagel, has not turned over requested documents on his sources of foreign funding is that one of the names listed is a group purportedly called ‘Friends of Hamas.’”

The author, Ben Shapiro, wrote that a White House spokesman hung up on him when he called for comment. That went in the story — to buttress the assertion that the White House didn’t deny the claim.

Shapiro tweeted the link to his nearly 40,000 Twitter followers. Blogs like RedState.com and the National Review’s The Corner linked to it. In Israel, Mike Huckabee said “rumors of Chuck Hagel’s having received funds from Friends of Hamas,” would, if true, “disqualify him.”

Somehow, I was not aware of the firestorm until Sunday, when I glanced at my phone and saw a Slate.com story raising big doubts whether “Friends of Hamas” even exists.

On Monday, I reached my source. The person denied sharing my query with Breitbart but admitted the chance of having mentioned it to others. Since the source knew we spoke under a standard that my questions weren’t for sharing, that’s a problem.

But there was another fail-safe. Since the “Friends of Hamas” speech was imaginary, it was not like another reporter could confirm it, right?

Not quite.
Reached Tuesday, Shapiro acknowledged “Friends of Hamas” might not exist. But he said his story used “very, very specific language” to avoid flatly claiming it did.

“The story as reported is correct. Whether the information I was given by the source is correct I am not sure,” he said.

I am, it seems, the creator of the Friends of Hamas myth. Doing my job, I erred in counting on confidentiality and the understanding that my example was farcical — and by assuming no one would print an unchecked rumor.

If anyone didn’t know already: Partisan agendas, Internet reporting and old-fashioned carelessness can move complete crocks fast. If you see a story on Hagel addressing the Junior League of Hezbollah, that’s fake too.


However, Ben Shapiro of Breitbart.com is still claiming the story is true:

Breitbart Editor Believes Hoax About Hagel’s Ties to ‘Friends of Hamas’

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After getting suckered into reporting a fake story that Chuck Hagel, President Obama’s nominee for secretary of defense, had ties to a terrorist organization, Breitbart.com editor-at-large Ben Shapiro is refusing to admit his error, choosing instead to stick by the false piece...

Still, despite Friedman’s acknowledgment that he invented the groups, Shapiro is standing by the story. The Breitbart editor claims he was citing a different Senate source from the one Friedman spoke with when he reported that “one of the reasons that President Barack Obama’s nominee for Secretary of Defense, Chuck Hagel, has not turned over requested documents on his sources of foreign funding is that one of the names listed is a group purportedly called ‘Friends of Hamas.’ ”


Partisans refuse to believe uncomfortable facts

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Recently, a few political scientists have begun to discover a human tendency deeply discouraging to anyone with faith in the power of information. It’s this: Facts don’t necessarily have the power to change our minds. In fact, quite the opposite. In a series of studies in 2005 and 2006, researchers at the University of Michigan found that when misinformed people, particularly political partisans, were exposed to corrected facts in news stories, they rarely changed their minds. In fact, they often became even more strongly set in their beliefs. Facts, they found, were not curing misinformation. Like an underpowered antibiotic, facts could actually make misinformation even stronger.


From "Build Your Own Conspiracy": "Denounce those who debunk your claims with facts as tools of a conspiracy”

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RE: "Hagel is supported by The Friends Of Hamas" - 2/22/2013 9:45:16 AM   
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Mark Twain - "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled"

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RE: "Hagel is supported by The Friends Of Hamas" - 2/22/2013 4:02:41 PM   
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Haven't heard from John McCain or Lindsey Graham on this embarrassingly fake story. Too busy planning the attack on Iran, maybe.

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RE: "Hagel is supported by The Friends Of Hamas" - 2/22/2013 4:18:48 PM   
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whats the matter government conspiracies getting too much traction for ya? LOL


The Plan:
In 1933, group of wealthy businessmen that allegedly included the heads of Chase Bank, GM, Goodyear, Standard Oil, the DuPont family and Senator Prescott Bush tried to recruit Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler to lead a military coup against President FDR and install a fascist dictatorship in the United States. And yes, we're talking about the same Prescott Bush who fathered one US President and grandfathered another one.


Prescott Bush

How did that work out?
A good rule of thumb: never trust a man named Smedley to run your hostile military coup for you. Besides being no fan of fascism, Smedley Butler was both a patriot and a vocal FDR supporter. Apparently none of these criminal masterminds noticed that their prospective point man had actively stumped for FDR in 1932.

Smedley spilled the beans to a congressional committee in 1934. Everyone he accused of being a conspirator vehemently denied it, and none of them were brought up on criminal charges. Still, the House McCormack-Dickstein Committee did at least acknowledge the existence of the conspiracy, which ended up never getting past the initial planning stages.

Though many of the people who had allegedly backed the Business Plot also maintained financial ties with Nazi Germany up through America's entry into World War II. But at least the United States never ended up becoming a fascist dictatorship (unless you ask Ron Paul supporters).

The lesson here? Fascist or not, you don't fuck around with guys named Smedley or Dickstein.


almost as big of a conspiracy as the judicial system and the bar association!



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