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adding sweeteners to milk without labeling - 2/28/2013 9:16:07 PM

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OMG.. now they wanna add artificial sweeteners to milk and not have to label that its been added.. I am glad i dont drink it but I find this very offensive.. cuz if they can get away with this, then other food producers will want to be able to pull the wool over consumers eyes by doing the same thing also..

Got diet milk? In a highly controversial move, the dairy industry wants to market artificially sweetened milk—without any special label to alert consumers.

In a petition filed with the FDA, the International Dairy Foods Association (IDFA) and the National Milk Producers Federation (NMPF) seek to change the definition of “milk” so that chemical sweeteners like aspartame and sucralose can be used as optional ingredients not listed on the product label.

If the petition—originally filed in 2009 and now under consideration by the FDA—is successful, these hidden additives could also be included in 17 other dairy products—including whipping cream, low-fat and non-fat yogurt, eggnog, sweetened condensed milk, sour cream, and half-and-half—without requiring any special labeling.
http://health.yahoo.net/experts/dayinhealth/artificial-sweeteners-milk

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RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling - 3/1/2013 10:05:41 AM

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IMO, one of the surest signs of the utter corruption of the food industry and the FDA is this business about not labelling stuff. Look... if some manufacturer wants to put god knows what in a food product then (in the absence of hard data to the contrary) I suppose they should be allowed to.

But the moment they don't want it labelled that is an ENTIRELY different kettle of fish. Now what we have is deliberate collusion by the food industry and the governmental agency designed to regulate it in order to pull the wool over the consumers' eyes. There is no other interpretation that I can come up with.

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RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling - 3/1/2013 4:26:10 PM

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If there is nothing wrong with adding those ingredients then why do they have a problem with putting those ingredients on the labels? why do they feel they need to hide those ingredients? People, especially parents, should be up in arms over this..

And some of what happens in the US gets imported into other countries, not just the food imported itself, etc but the same shady despicable practices/tactics also imported..

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RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling - 3/2/2013 6:13:17 AM

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If there is nothing wrong with adding those ingredients then why do they have a problem with putting those ingredients on the labels? why do they feel they need to hide those ingredients? People, especially parents, should be up in arms over this..

And some of what happens in the US gets imported into other countries, not just the food imported itself, etc but the same shady despicable practices/tactics also imported..

I agree with this whole heartedly!!! I was also wondering, do they think people aren't going to know? I can taste when something has aspartame. Not only that, but it makes me sick. I drink organic milk, so I'm hoping that they won't fall into this nasty cycle. That is IF this is approved by the FDA. My grandfather used to work at a Daisy farm and he would just be rolling in his grave over this. He would tell me all the time how milk USED to be.

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RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling - 3/3/2013 5:22:01 PM

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What a total load of BS! They can't do that up here in the Cold Frozen North and they had better not try.
Food processors have FAR too much power in both countries, and htey are NOT looking out for our best interests.
In Canada, it's not even legal to buy raw milk!

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RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling - 3/3/2013 6:24:32 PM

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I just assume everything premade is full of fat, sugar and sodium and chemicals. Why would one need labels?

Seriously....if it's premade, including milk, it contains all of the above.

Those cheeses in the grocery store? Sodium, sugar, fat, chemicals. The milk? Same. Half and half? Yup. A can of beans or corn? Yup. Frozen veggies? Once again, yep. Even the meats you buy have it all in them. You don't see labels on those telling you they are colored with dyes and salted to keep from spoiling too quickly. But they are in there.

Just make it easy on yourself. If it's not something you grew or slaughtered yourself, expect it to be full of stuff you don't want to eat.

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RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling - 3/3/2013 6:27:56 PM

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We shop at whole foods, all organic. I wonder does that matter or is all that bs in my milk?

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RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling - 3/3/2013 6:35:16 PM

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My organic milk still has fat and sugar. Although, it doesn't have all the extra added hormones and pesticides that are in regular milk. I read the label and a good indicator for me that it's "better" is that I can pronounce and know all the ingredients.

Yeah, there are going to be additives in almost everything. It is how food has a shelf life, but you can pick foods that have less. I highly doubt that any organic brands are going to jump on the bandwagon to add artificial sweeteners to the product. It completely goes against the sustainable and healthy lifestyle that they promote.

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RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling - 3/5/2013 8:19:34 PM

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GAH. This is horrid. If you don't want that crap in your body, but you want dairy, wtf are you supposed to do? Buy a cow?

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RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling - 3/5/2013 9:55:53 PM

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Depending on where you live you could probably find a dairy farm where you can buy it directly. It might take some work to find someplace but they do exist.

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RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling - 3/6/2013 4:18:46 AM

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OMG.. now they wanna add artificial sweeteners to milk and not have to label that its been added.. I am glad i dont drink it but I find this very offensive.. cuz if they can get away with this, then other food producers will want to be able to pull the wool over consumers eyes by doing the same thing also..

Got diet milk? In a highly controversial move, the dairy industry wants to market artificially sweetened milk—without any special label to alert consumers.

In a petition filed with the FDA, the International Dairy Foods Association (IDFA) and the National Milk Producers Federation (NMPF) seek to change the definition of “milk” so that chemical sweeteners like aspartame and sucralose can be used as optional ingredients not listed on the product label.

If the petition—originally filed in 2009 and now under consideration by the FDA—is successful, these hidden additives could also be included in 17 other dairy products—including whipping cream, low-fat and non-fat yogurt, eggnog, sweetened condensed milk, sour cream, and half-and-half—without requiring any special labeling.
http://health.yahoo.net/experts/dayinhealth/artificial-sweeteners-milk

These fucking idiots deserve to be beaten.

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RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling - 3/6/2013 6:47:47 PM

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littlewonder, in Canada it's illegal to buy or sell raw milk..sigh.
People try to get around it by buying 'shares' in a cow and getting teh milk for free, but I don't know any cows

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RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling - 3/6/2013 6:53:12 PM

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I didn't saw raw milk. There are farms however, that pasteurize their milk but are not going to be putting other stuff in it like commercial milk. It wouldn't be worth the expense for them. You just have to do some searching. Probably check online or ask co-ops or organic places who might have some information.

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RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling - 3/6/2013 8:20:07 PM

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Well in all honesty milk is a product made by cows for their young. Humans are not meant to drink the product meant for the young of another species it's so weird that we haven't yet weaned off it. Dairy is one huge lie and we need to stop consuming it.

https://www.facebook.com/Dairy.TheTruth?ref=ts&fref=ts

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RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling - 3/10/2013 7:46:03 PM

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Sweet milk yuck

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RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling - 3/15/2013 2:53:36 PM

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You would love Hawaii or Guantanamo.

The gallons of milk in the grocery come from the "milk factory" where they blend up powdered milk and mix with coconut milk and corn syrup so it actually tastes something like whole milk.

Islands don't have room for dairies.

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RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling - 3/15/2013 3:14:18 PM

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One reason why I love living here over the pond.

Milk is milk.
It gets pasturised or sterilised to kill bacteria and that's as far as it goes.
There is nothing else in it.
If you buy semi-skimmed, half the fat & cream is skimmed off prior to bottling.
Full skimmed milk is just the watery bit with all the fatty cream & stuff removed.
But they don't add anything else into it.
And our cheeses are the same too.

That's why the big hoo-hah about the horsemeat found in our processed beef products in the EU.
The concern wasn't about it being there - just that it wasn't on the label!!
Our food labelling standards are pretty good.
Not perfect by any stretch of the imagination but it's way better than the US.

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RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling - 3/15/2013 3:19:47 PM

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If it's not something you grew or slaughtered yourself, expect it to be full of stuff you don't want to eat.

That is pretty much it.. unfortunately few people can do that and they rely on the govt to at least require food mfrs to be honest with consumers.. which isnt the way its turned out..

Congress exempted two groups of additives, those already sanctioned by the F.D.A. or the Department of Agriculture, or those experts deemed “generally recognized as safe.”

The second exemption created what Tom Neltner, director of the Pew Charitable Trusts’ food additives project, a three-year investigation into how food additives are regulated, calls “the loophole that swallowed the law.” A company can create a new additive, publish safety data about it on its Web site and pay a law firm or consulting firm to vet it to establish it as “generally recognized as safe” — without ever notifying the F.D.A., Mr. Neltner said.

About 10,000 chemicals are allowed to be added to foods, about 3,000 of which have never been reviewed for safety by the F.D.A., according to Pew’s research. Of those, about 1,000 never come before the F.D.A. unless someone has a problem with them; they are declared safe by a company and its handpicked advisers.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/13/business/another-look-at-a-drink-ingredient-brominated-vegetable-oil.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=1&pagewanted=all&

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RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling - 3/15/2013 3:28:17 PM

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That's why the big hoo-hah about the horsemeat found in our processed beef products in the EU.
The concern wasn't about it being there - just that it wasn't on the label!!
Our food labelling standards are pretty good.
Not perfect by any stretch of the imagination but it's way better than the US.

that is what is called "counterfeit food".. selling product A as being product B when it isnt the same thing or isnt 100%..

"The National Center for Food Protection and Defense estimates that Americans pay $10 billion to $15 billion annually for fake food — often due to product laundering, dilution and intentionally false labeling."
http://westernfarmpress.com/blog/counterfeit-food-robs-americans-10-billion-each-year

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RE: adding sweeteners to milk without labeling - 3/15/2013 8:55:30 PM

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I have to agree with Aynne for one thing - it's absolutely abnormal that humans drink the milk of another species. =p
I couldn't tolerate plain milk as a kid; it just tasted like pus and sick to me.

But yeaaah... this aversion to labeling things is just... ugh. Even if something isn't necessarily harmful, people still deserve to know what is in what they're consuming, in order to make decisions for themselves.

I do hope that I can eventually get back out of the city, and grow more of my own food.

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