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GotSteel -> RE: Christian BDSM? (3/8/2013 8:16:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder
Those who do so for religious reasons do it because they are getting closer to God, they are working towards bettering their spiritual health.


This is exactly the sort of phrasing that makes me think of self harm. The whole notion that there's something wrong with them that needs cleansing. Especially when we're talking about that institution of shame guilt and sexual repression that is the Catholic Church.




searching4mysir -> RE: Christian BDSM? (3/8/2013 8:18:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder
Those who do so for religious reasons do it because they are getting closer to God, they are working towards bettering their spiritual health.


This is exactly the sort of phrasing that makes me think of self harm. The whole notion that there's something wrong with them that needs cleansing. Especially when we're talking about that institution of shame guilt and sexual repression that is the Catholic Church.




The Catholic Church doesn't hate sex. Not in the slightest. They believe that it is good and holy, and that is why it should only be done within the confines of marriage. They believe that you are making promises with your body, that outside of marriage you have no intentions of keeping.




Real0ne -> RE: Christian BDSM? (3/8/2013 8:29:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I am a person of faith who believe that Jesus Christ did live on earth. By definition, that makes Me a Christian. My involvement in BDSM doesn't change that. I'm probably in more hot water with God for being poly than I am for being a sadist. By the same token, since it's Him that gets to be the authority figure on that, I figure I'll deal with Him directly. Not other people who want to decide to do His job by sticking their nose where it doesn't belong.

Yep, I'm a female Dominant and I'm in charge of My poly household. What's in the Bible wouldn't have accepted that because women were still second class citizens by law. I'm going to be pretty shocked if God isn't more evolved than that, so I don't worry about it much. What else would you expect to be on the pages when it was transcribed by men of that time?

As for owning slaves, whippings, public displays, plural marriage, etc, etc....... Well, all of that is in those same pages. Kind of hard to deny that.



that was changed when they abolished dowery.




Owner59 -> RE: Christian BDSM? (3/8/2013 8:32:21 AM)

Ok...so.......hating all sex but the ones you like isn`t hating sex?


Please explain this.




Kirata -> RE: Christian BDSM? (3/8/2013 8:34:28 AM)


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ORIGINAL: GotSteel

Those are pretty quotes and all but they don't change how unhealthy this sort of behavior is nor the unhealthy nature of the self loathing that leads to it:

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ORIGINAL: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/self-injury/DS00775
[snip] ...self-injury is an unhealthy way to cope with emotional pain, intense anger and frustration.

While self-injury may bring a momentary sense of calm and a release of tension, it's usually followed by guilt and shame and the return of painful emotions. And with self-injury comes the possibility of more serious and even fatal self-aggressive actions.


The first statement is not true in a religious context, and neither is the second. To pretend that these quotes support your position is rank flim-flam.

K.




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