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Those injuries so a threat to his life or serious bodily injury? He got his ass kicked. His lil make believe vigilante mind couldn't grasp it so he shot him.....

No, he shot him because the beating was still happening despite his screaming for help for nearly a minute and being unable to escape Trayvon's attack. You should pay closer attention to the evidence.

A witness saw Trayvon on top of George moments before the shot, with George struggling and unable to get up. The shot and screams for help are recorded, and the screaming continued up until the shot. The forensics of the gunshot place Trayvon on top of George at the moment the gun was fired.

One would think that would be sufficient for any reasonable person to believe it's possible George shot only as a last resort to save his own life.

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These types of questions are private and none of anyone elses business..

In the case of what she was doing instead of attenting Martin's funeral, the question goes directly to the nature of her claimed relationship with Martin. And while you can whine all you want about it being inappropriate and a "private" matter, the fact remains that she was asked it and she lied.

K.

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

Those injuries so a threat to his life or serious bodily injury? He got his ass kicked. His lil make believe vigilante mind couldn't grasp it so he shot him.....

No, he shot him because the beating was still happening despite his screaming for help for nearly a minute and being unable to escape Trayvon's attack. You should pay closer attention to the evidence.

A witness saw Trayvon on top of George moments before the shot, with George struggling and unable to get up. The shot and screams for help are recorded, and the screaming continued up until the shot. The forensics of the gunshot place Trayvon on top of George at the moment the gun was fired.

One would think that would be sufficient for any reasonable person to believe it's possible George shot only as a last resort to save his own life.

The most pertinent wordage of your post being, of course, "any reasonable person". That, of course, eliminates Travon Martin supporters like "DomYngBlk"who unreasonably profer that George Zimmerman should have simply let Travon pummel/pound him until he lost consciousness and, of course, eventually bleed out and die.

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I am not disputing that she lied, but I think she did that simply to give a reason to the family and to avoid being judged harshly by them for not going..

Well that's fine. But given the circus of hate that erupted following the shooting, what else might she lie about "to avoid being judged harshly"?

K.

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These types of questions are private and none of anyone elses business..

In the case of what she was doing instead of attenting Martin's funeral, the question goes directly to the nature of her claimed relationship with Martin. And while you can whine all you want about it being inappropriate and a "private" matter, the fact remains that she was asked it and she lied.

K.

ahhhh, I see,.. so if she had gone to the funeral then that would have to mean he meant everything to her? that is not necessarily true, going to someones funeral can be (& frequently is) just for show and just cuz its "expected".. no matter how much you might have actually hated the person.. For some people (like me), I prefer to remember the person how they were as I last saw them, not as a stiff dead body (like the funerals I was forced to attend for my grandparents when I was a little kid).. There can be other reasons too, like not wanting to be swarmed by the media and have your pic taken, mics stuck in your face, etc just cuz you are at someones funeral.. I dont know what kind of media attention the case was getting at that time but I suspect that Martins family had been trying to get that attention then too (which they eventually did get)..

Imo, people that think there is a correlation between how you felt for someone and if you attended their funeral are those that hang on every word from that horrible Nancy Grace's mouth.. its the same judgemental viewpoint..

I am not disputing that she lied, but I think she did that simply to give a reason to the family and to avoid being judged harshly by them for not going.. it just snowballed into the family telling their lawyer and then the lawyer asking her, etc etc.. She is just a kid and likely much more susceptible to those kinds of pressures, imo.. When I was 21 my father tried to get me to go to my uncle's funeral and I just couldnt go,.. I told him I couldnt get time off work (yes, a lie).. He was my very fav uncle and I had a lot of affection for him.. going to his funeral and knowing he died too young & in a horrible helicopter crash was just something I could not handle..

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I am not disputing that she lied, but I think she did that simply to give a reason to the family and to avoid being judged harshly by them for not going..

Well that's fine. But given the circus of hate that erupted following the shooting, what else might she lie about "to avoid being judged harshly"?

K.

she is not the one on trial for murder and I dont think she has sought the spotlight and my impression is that she prefer to be left alone & not be part of it at all..

the evidence will be presented at trial, the exact time she was on the phone and the exact time Martin was killed.. and it will be up to the jury what they decide..

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Why does george`s rights supersede Martin`s rights?

They don`t...

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Of course......all that lying under oath by george, doesn`t look good.....

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

If she did or did not go to the funeral is of no importance, that she lied about it in her disposition is.

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No she isn't she is just a key witness to put someone awayfor life, wouldn't it be nice if she told the truth.

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imo, what she has said about the night of the murder is the truth..

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Zimmy has tried to claim that he turned around and TM came after him and attacked him.. that to me is not logical or believeable..

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You (& the other Zimmy supporters) believe what you want to, you arent going to change my mind about what I personally believe..

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I think that Crump etc knew that her story wouldn't hold up under scrutiny, hence why he tried so hard to hide her under the guise of being a traumatized 16 year old minor (when in fact she was 18 at the time of the shooting and 19 now for instance).

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You are only guilty of perjury if the facts you lie about directly influence the outcome of the case for which you are testifying. For instance, lying about your age in a case that will not be affected one way or the other by your age is not considered perjury.

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Thats not perjury.

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Creepy old man chasing teenage kid at night. I wonder why he was scared. Lmao. Ps:I am not vanilla

22 is now teenager?

Look it up.

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Oh right.....you would have done something else......

Having had the opportunity to carefully observe the muzzle of a 9mm up close and personal, I can confidently say you bet. When the fellow inquired as to my comprehension of the situation, my prompt and unhesitating reply was: "Yes sir, how can I help you?"

K.

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My staulker is back......