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ORIGINAL: Leadership525

All those who would deny a person the right of self defense with a firearm because of a misdemeanor , would you also castrate a pedophile for committing a felony with a child?

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

in spite of Kirata`s...

And you guys(Kirata)...

The only concern I've ever raised with regard to background checks was addressed to how they'll be implemented. I've never expressed any opposition to background checks in principle. I do think the 10-round magazine limit is overkill. A lot of perfectly ordinary self-defense handguns hold more than 10 rounds. If you're going to ban high-capacity magazines, then at least set the limit at 20 rounds. On the other hand, I see that one of the bills headed for the Colorado House raises the training requirements for a concealed-weapons permit, and I'd be willing to bet that it doesn't raise them as much as I'd like to see.

So please find someone else to make shit up about.

K.

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ORIGINAL: tj444

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

It`s backround checks IN EVERY STATE on EVERY SALE,private,family or otherwise...

that might stop some but not everyone.. that one nutbar that killed the first responders to the house fire he set got his guns cuz he sucked some dumb chick into buying them for him (cuz he know as an ex-con he would be turned down)..

and then there is this..

Trusts Offer a Legal Loophole for Buying Restricted Guns [8|]
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/us/in-gun-trusts-a-legal-loophole-for-restricted-firearms.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: TricklessMagic

Before the SAFE Act this was illegal to do anyways. You can't knowingly sell a firearm to a felon. The second someone says misdemeanor, felony, or domestic violence you need to assume they aren't allowed to have the firearm and you need to cancel the sale, simple as that. This idiot was caught, great, these types need to be arrested anyways. Knowingly selling to criminals is wrong now this guy is going to prison. Next?

You can legally buy a gun in most states if you have a non domestic violence misdemeaner.
Other than that it has been ilegal to sell a gun to a felon for as long as I can remeber and that's a long time.

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ORIGINAL: TricklessMagic

Well Colorado has a right to manage Colorado, just as the folks of Colorado have a right to attempt to challenges the validity of any laws in court. Funny enough Colorado again completely managed to pass over the cause of the mass shootings. Adam Lanza stole his mother's gun, and Holmes was a nut, and both were prescribed anti-depressants. So that whole universal background check thing should come in really handy. I mean it wouldn't have stopped Adam Lanza or Homes, but you know good luck with that. I mean tough restrictions have stopped illegal guns from making their way into NYC, D.C., Chicago, California, Russia, Mexico, Norway, England, France, Japan, etc. etc..

Though challenging Universal Background checks seems virtually impossible. Granted what guns I don't want to build for myself I have little problem purchasing through legitmate FFL vendors.

Oh and yes I'm up for castrating pedophiles who have improperly touched children. You get busted with kiddie porn you go to prison and wear the badge of shame of being on the sex offender registry (it is not victimless because some kid had to be harmed to make the porn), they touch a kid, there's too strong a chance of them doing it again. But I also want pedophiles in gen. pop as opposed to isolation and protective custody, let the animals have at them and be of some service or value to society.

Mind you I don't have a problem with universal background checks so much as I have a problem with a registry, can you remember the Weimar Republic of Germany and the horror that followed. So you can put me down for Universal Background checks.

Oh and I'm pro-choice (and pro-abortion), pro gay marriage and pro gay adoption, but again too often those who support these things also go against my gun rights so I can't vote for those politicians unfortunately, get your hands off my guns and I'll vote for legalized weed, gay marriage, gay adoption, and immigration reform (let folks buy their way into citizenship so long as they don't commit crimes for a period of eight years and maintain employment six out of eight years, set the citizenship fee at $50,000 to include all biological minor children of the applicant and one spouse, and put them on a ten year payment plan, if they can pay it off in less than years they still have to have a good record for eight years).

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

House moms and soccer dads aren`t weak and they vote.


They count too and don`t live in fear of paranoid mythical fantasies but rather of real threats...kooks with guns.

Yup. The "weak" ones are the paranoid nuts who need guns to make them feel complete.

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ORIGINAL: Owner59
The system must be federalized and we can`t let the gun-nuttery stop that from happening.This country belongs to everyone...not just gun owners.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

And yet felons are in fact in possession of guns.
Where do you suppose they get them from ?

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Denial

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ORIGINAL: TricklessMagic

.................or willing choose to live in a bad neighborhood,........

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

I`m pro gun and.........

and I'm the Easter Bunny


If someone is adjudicated to the point where they`re found guilty of or was pleaded down to a misdemeanor(s).....they shouldn`t be allowed to have firearms.

They shouldn't get pleaded down in the first place


And I don`t think DV laws that pro-actively protect domestic partners, should be changed because they are abused by some people....

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

And some states have started restoring gun rights to convicted felons.

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: TricklessMagic

Before the SAFE Act this was illegal to do anyways. You can't knowingly sell a firearm to a felon. The second someone says misdemeanor, felony, or domestic violence you need to assume they aren't allowed to have the firearm and you need to cancel the sale, simple as that. This idiot was caught, great, these types need to be arrested anyways. Knowingly selling to criminals is wrong now this guy is going to prison. Next?

You can legally buy a gun in most states if you have a non domestic violence misdemeaner.
Other than that it has been ilegal to sell a gun to a felon for as long as I can remeber and that's a long time.

And yet felons are in fact in possession of guns.
Where do you suppose they get them from ?

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

I`m pro gun and I don`t have a problem with misdemeanor disability.


If someone is adjudicated to the point where they`re found guilty of or was pleaded down to a misdemeanor(s).....they shouldn`t be allowed to have firearms.


And I don`t think DV laws that pro-actively protect domestic partners, should be changed because they are abused by some people....