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Econ gauge (mult. choice)


The EURO WILL survive
  10% (8)
The EURO will NOT survive. Return to Lira, DM, Drachma, etc
  9% (7)
The EU will break up
  5% (4)
The EU will NOT breakup
  13% (10)
US Reserve Currency is assured
  8% (6)
US Reserve Currency is endangered
  8% (6)
US Banking Syetem is relatively sound (safe to keep your money in)
  14% (11)
US Banking System is unsound; potential to collapse (bank runs etc.)
  8% (6)
World Banking System problematic, but not to collapse
  14% (11)
World Banking System is heading for collapse
  8% (6)


Total Votes : 75


(last vote on : 4/2/2013 2:36:12 AM)
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Econ gauge (mult. choice) - 4/1/2013 7:03:04 AM   
Yachtie


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With only 10 options available, that's how I constructed it. Poll is multiple choice.

The EURO will survive > meaning the EU banking system, though problematic, will hold together despite the bumps in the road. It is possible one or two EMS members could leave the EURO.

EU breakup is self explanatory. I added it simply because without common currency it seems appropriate countries should not continue to be under Brussels.

US Reserve Currency is coming under fire. Cross Nation direct exchanges are becoming more prevalent, most especially with China.

Four US banks hold near 50% of all deposits. TBTF is the order of the day. Bernanke, along with Nobel Economist Krugman, has indicated the banking system can "print"/bail its way out, without triggering high inflation. David Stockman, in his NYT piece yesterday, says otherwise.

The EMS and US are inextricably linked; i.e. Derivatives, etc.

World banking is linked via World Bank, IMF, US Reserve Currency, etc. If such as the EURO were to go down, it could not but send shock waves throughout the world banking system. If the US were added into the mix, all bets (imo) are off.

I'd like to have had more options. Break it down a bit more. For instance, in the US, given a worse case scenario, 401-K and IRA plans could come under attack as the banking system scrambles for funds. Such, imo, would precede deposit confiscations.

The permutations one can derive from the monetary problems are numerous. For instance, US banking might require 'massive haircuts' yet be salvageable. Haircuts could happen yet the system still collapses. Deflation could eventually be the order of the day with digital Dollars being wiped out. Last I saw there is, in the US, ~1.2T Cash versus ~9T deposits.

Anyway, just want to gauge where people's thought are.


< Message edited by Yachtie -- 4/1/2013 7:22:32 AM >


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RE: Econ gauge (mult. choice) - 4/1/2013 9:14:16 AM   
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You left out

(a) run on mattress stores for currency storage.

(b) the Apocalypse

But, I understand the limitations

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RE: Econ gauge (mult. choice) - 4/1/2013 3:14:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie
EU breakup is self explanatory. I added it simply because without common currency it seems appropriate countries should not continue to be under Brussels.

Quite. It isn't like there are any countries in the EEC who aren't in the Euro, after all.

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RE: Econ gauge (mult. choice) - 4/1/2013 3:36:03 PM   
YN


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Add the option that the failings of the EU with start the next world war, much as the previous 5 have been started in Europe due to significant economic. social and political contradictions.

Judging from Europe's past history, the festivities should be beginning in 2018, and certainly by 2020.

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RE: Econ gauge (mult. choice) - 4/1/2013 6:19:16 PM   
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The US dollar for now and the foreseeable future is still king. It remains the depository and safe haven currency for the next few years anyway if only because the rest of the world is so fucked up and dependent upon it and yes...have even billions (in total) in reserve in their banking systems for all of the above reasons.

China could dump their US debt but could take a big enough loss to dissuade them plus then watch as any other US dominate investments take a hit.

The Euro will survive for the time being because so many players have so much invested in it.

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RE: Econ gauge (mult. choice) - 4/1/2013 6:34:23 PM   
YN


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The United States is a large nation, and a large nation's currency will always have some value.

The EU is not yet a nation, and the more the members fragment the less of a nation they resemble, and the more their "common currency" will suffer, especially if events like the Cyprus events occur, which question Brussels' financial and damage control abilities.


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RE: Econ gauge (mult. choice) - 4/1/2013 9:30:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Yachtie
EU breakup is self explanatory. I added it simply because without common currency it seems appropriate countries should not continue to be under Brussels.

why would they leave? for most of its time tha Ewww had no single currency.

eta, voted for The EURO WILL survive; The EU will NOT breakup; US Reserve Currency is assured; US Banking Syetem is relatively sound (safe to keep your money in); World Banking System problematic, but not to collapse

reckon there will be a period of sustained growth now that i have given tha markets & banks the thumbs up.


< Message edited by WantsOfTheFlesh -- 4/1/2013 9:37:10 PM >


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