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15speed -> Younger slaves & older Masters (4/20/2013 3:17:37 PM)

I'm sure this has been discussed before os bear with me. I would like to hear thought about this in general and/ or specifically. Females only.




lizi -> RE: Younger slaves & older Masters (4/20/2013 3:27:21 PM)

I like to stay within 5 years of my partner or there isn't as much common ground. I am also not attracted to men much older than myself and never have been.

Forget specifying who gets to respond, the rules of the boards are that anyone can respond wherever they like.




DesFIP -> RE: Younger slaves & older Masters (4/20/2013 5:46:51 PM)

Damn few 18 year olds are going to be interested in you op.




HisPet21 -> RE: Younger slaves & older Masters (4/20/2013 6:34:13 PM)

I'm actually rather attracted to older men but alas, I'd never venture outside of fantasy land with respect to a long-term partner. Mostly because it means that him and I would be at very different stages in our lives, and that would make us incompatible. I want to have children someday, but probably not for another decade. Where would that leave my partner and me, if he is in his forties, fifties, or older? I doubt it would work out. And then, there are generational gaps to consider...

Also, see below...

quote:

Forget specifying who gets to respond, the rules of the boards are that anyone can respond wherever they like.




LafayetteLady -> RE: Younger slaves & older Masters (4/20/2013 7:32:19 PM)

You busted that poor old guy's fantasy!




DarkSteven -> RE: Younger slaves & older Masters (4/20/2013 7:54:22 PM)

Fella, you're doing this all wrong. It's hard as heck to meet women online.

You travel all over the country. When you know you will be in a location for a night, check to see if there are any munches that night there. Drop in, say hello to the locals, make some friends. Ask them of they know of any women that might be interested in a vagabond life with you.




littlewonder -> RE: Younger slaves & older Masters (4/20/2013 8:25:12 PM)

Not into older men. I tend to stick to men my own age, within a 5 year range.




FrostedFlake -> RE: Younger slaves & older Masters (4/20/2013 9:30:34 PM)

A womans age doesn't matter. What counts is... is... Look, I'll have to get back to you.




myotherself -> RE: Younger slaves & older Masters (4/21/2013 1:52:04 AM)

I like my men to be older, but only by about 5 years max. I want someone with similar life experiences to myself.

When I was looking I was regularly contacted by guys 20 years and more older than me. I'm 48.

I don't want to go out with someone from my dad's generation.




muhly22222 -> RE: Younger slaves & older Masters (4/21/2013 5:47:32 AM)

FR

I guess it depends on how young you're talking. You're 63...if you're talking about a woman who is, say, 50, that's one thing. If you're looking for a 25-year-old, that's another issue.

(I mostly wanted to reply because he said I couldn't...I'm feeling contrarian this morning.)




LaTigresse -> RE: Younger slaves & older Masters (4/21/2013 7:00:44 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: muhly22222

FR

I guess it depends on how young you're talking. You're 63...if you're talking about a woman who is, say, 50, that's one thing. If you're looking for a 25-year-old, that's another issue.



This.

I am reminded of a guy that used to be a prolific poster on here, especially in the random stupidity section. He was well into his sixties and always trolling for young, naive, inexperienced women. He knew how to say a lot of the right things to actually get a few stupid ones to take the bait. He made me sick to my stomach. I do not miss seeing him post at all.




Arturas -> RE: Younger slaves & older Masters (4/21/2013 7:09:55 AM)

In reality, off the forum, this situation is not uncommon. I wrote about it sometime ago in "the Arturas Journals":

Txxxxy asked me to respond to another Dom’s question to her about our age difference. I suspect that is on the mind of many Dom’s and even more female submissives who are afraid of approaching the older Male, say seven years or much more, than they.

My txxxy is actually part of a very large population of submissive females who are attracted only to the older male as a Master. Now I am not talking about a play session Dom, but a Master. They are always looking for a Master/submissive relationship and will cite how bored they are with the males of their own age group and how they can only be respectful of an older Male. They also cite intelligence and maturity. They always also cite how they are treated by the older Male. This is always the pattern.


Well anyway, here are the questions and my answers …


Question: Has the age difference been a problem or a benefit to you, especially given your experience in the alternate lifestyle?

Honestly, 17 years difference is not abnormal in today's society and it has not caused any problem at all. I do find the younger women more passionate and open about their submissiveness. The women of the Woodstock generation are not prone to this; something about bra burning.

Question: Have you had problems being accepted in the vanilla world as a vanilla couple? With friends? With family?

None. See first answer. See Senator McCain's age difference with his wife even though he is a leader of the conservative movement. Alpha's have always had a young beautiful woman on their arm throughout history. Enjoy her attention. Give it back to her.


Outside the specific answers to his email I'm also reminded of President Clinton and Monica. Everyone who made a big deal out of that made it because he was married but never because of their great age difference and he actually got some kudos on the side for that.

I also suppose it is because I am a Male and historically and even in today’s society, this situation is very much accepted and conversely and unjustly it finds the cougar, the older woman and younger man relationship, unacceptable…now she has the problem…

Besides, Men make the rules.



Arturas




LaTigresse -> RE: Younger slaves & older Masters (4/21/2013 7:16:24 AM)

Case in point.

Superb timing.




Arturas -> RE: Younger slaves & older Masters (4/21/2013 7:25:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

Case in point.

Superb timing.


But you know already that I have txxxy and could not keep her if I were trolling for more, except we do joke occasionally about getting (very) young southeast Asian girls to "help" around the house, but the number is usually only two or three, so I am not very greedy or too perverted, don't you think? Besides, older men deserve whatever they can get, I think. *wink*.




Arturas -> RE: Younger slaves & older Masters (4/21/2013 7:26:31 AM)

I think you are flirting with this older man. Yes. I am sure of it. It's ok.




Mastertlb -> RE: Younger slaves & older Masters (4/21/2013 7:30:53 AM)

Age old question about age... so many are afflicted with it's puzzlement. But if you pause n think about it age is nothing more than a number that denotes time spent. The way 'you' think about age/time is reflected by the part of society you and your parents were raised/lived in. Take for example "sodomy" there are literally thousands of people that love ass/anal play and actually advertise that they do.... but look over your shoulder.. how many are there that don't? infact sodomy is considered illegal in some states (citation needed) so what do you do? shrug your shoulder n say their loss.. right? Now look at age and the things we "tag" as old.. cars get old but become more valuable.. well some do. cheese gets old n' people crave its flavor as well as wine, furniture is an antique. Why are somethings that are "old" ok but people (especially "men") are not? The singer Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13-14 year old cousin, Anna Nicole Smith married that rich old fart. Sure there were factions of society that turned their collective noses n' looked down on these people but for the most part people accepted it. Older women looking for young guys are Cougars in fact they had a tv show "Cougar town" No problem right? But let an old/older man try it? He labeled a creep, dirty ole man, cradle robber and worse. Yes there are a few groups out there where young women seek older men but not many. In conclusion to this I feel the whole issue of "he's too old" should land squarely on "your fathers" shoulders... yes 'cause if he would have "bitch slapped" his wife for telling the daughter "he's too old for you" then age wouldn't be a factor. And you women out there.. before you write and TRY to flame me for my thoughts, conclusions and opinions... DON"T ! Are you better that the people of the world, the ones unfettered by our societies closed minds that age is a factor? Or even the Appalacian




kookycreature -> RE: Younger slaves & older Masters (4/21/2013 7:40:03 AM)

My whole post got eaten by the glitch monster the first time around - not amused.

Successful Age Gap Relationships. While the linked article is concerning primarily a vanilla relationship, many qualities can come over into BDSM - compatible ideals, trust, honest and open communication amongst other things. I am 22, while my Master/boyfriend is in his mid-60s. Do we get odd looks? Probably. Do friends and family ostracize us? No. Because we don't make or see age as any sort of issue; it's a minor quality. More important are mutual goals and interests, mutual attraction and trust. I'm not with him for his money, and he is not for me for my looks. He doesn't act his age either, and has actually said that if he ever starts doing so, he'll understand if I up and leave. I do not have 'Daddy issues' either, as my relationship with my own father is perfectly healthy.

To summarise... age-gaps in vanilla relationships and age-gaps in BDSM are entirely up to the people involved in it. There is no such thing as an overall 'right' upper age limit. Some are happy with 40+ year gaps. Some will only have a 30, 20 or 10 year gap. Some won't even entertain that, and want someone within a few years or even younger! Age gaps must not be judged by the years, but by the qualities that they have. Are both partners emotionally happy? Are both partners communicating well? Is there trust and open honesty? Is there no physical, emotional or mental abuse?

That's my $0.02.




lizi -> RE: Younger slaves & older Masters (4/21/2013 7:40:50 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: muhly22222

FR

I guess it depends on how young you're talking. You're 63...if you're talking about a woman who is, say, 50, that's one thing. If you're looking for a 25-year-old, that's another issue.

(I mostly wanted to reply because he said I couldn't...I'm feeling contrarian this morning.)


Lol on being contrary...I have to admit I've done the same thing in the past on threads that call for male Masters only, or some such thing.

I'd like to discuss your comment that the 13 year age difference wouldn't matter as much if the women were older. I'm 51, I'd not consider a 63 year old. For me, the 5 year difference or less has become even more important as I age because there is a big difference in health sometimes from year to year as we get older.

The 5 year thing wasn't so crucial when I was younger, although for me, it still gives me that common ground with another person. Now it definitely is important to try to stay within 5 years of my partner or close to that, because of having common ground again, and more importantly now, I don't want to be nursing anyone. If I were in a relationship, and I've aged with someone, and they decline as we're aging, that's one thing, but to take on a new relationship - I need to consider that the person I'm with is in good health. As we know good health is harder to come by with increasing age. I look at age for this reason.




lizi -> RE: Younger slaves & older Masters (4/21/2013 7:49:30 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Mastertlb

Age old question about age... so many are afflicted with it's puzzlement. But if you pause n think about it age is nothing more than a number that denotes time spent. The way 'you' think about age/time is reflected by the part of society you and your parents were raised/lived in. Take for example "sodomy" there are literally thousands of people that love ass/anal play and actually advertise that they do.... but look over your shoulder.. how many are there that don't? infact sodomy is considered illegal in some states (citation needed) so what do you do? shrug your shoulder n say their loss.. right? Now look at age and the things we "tag" as old.. cars get old but become more valuable.. well some do. cheese gets old n' people crave its flavor as well as wine, furniture is an antique. Why are somethings that are "old" ok but people (especially "men") are not? The singer Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13-14 year old cousin, Anna Nicole Smith married that rich old fart. Sure there were factions of society that turned their collective noses n' looked down on these people but for the most part people accepted it. Older women looking for young guys are Cougars in fact they had a tv show "Cougar town" No problem right? But let an old/older man try it? He labeled a creep, dirty ole man, cradle robber and worse. Yes there are a few groups out there where young women seek older men but not many. In conclusion to this I feel the whole issue of "he's too old" should land squarely on "your fathers" shoulders... yes 'cause if he would have "bitch slapped" his wife for telling the daughter "he's too old for you" then age wouldn't be a factor. And you women out there.. before you write and TRY to flame me for my thoughts, conclusions and opinions... DON"T ! Are you better that the people of the world, the ones unfettered by our societies closed minds that age is a factor? Or even the Appalacian


Age is a preference. We are entitled to our preferences for whatever reason that they exist. End of story.

If people's preferences happen to leave others out deal with it like an adult without whining. That's why preferences exist, to weed through potential choices; otherwise we'd have a fuck of a time figuring out the right person for us if the entire human race was a viable match.




phoenixasubbie -> RE: Younger slaves & older Masters (4/21/2013 8:53:20 AM)

I am 44, and with the exception of one Master, everyone I date is younger than myself. I am open to a ten year window either way, as long as we are compatible mentally and physically. A gap wider than that just doesn't do it for me.

With all due respect, I looked at your profile and I don't see you attracting the young crowd. JMO




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