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RE: He used my pic to find bi-women secretly - 6/24/2006 1:39:34 PM   
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Which is why I, being the epitomy of cynicism... steered very clear of that train wreck of a thread.

If it walks like a duck... and talks like a duck... it prolly ain't a chicken.

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RE: He used my pic to find bi-women secretly - 6/24/2006 1:47:35 PM   
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And it probably isn't even a turducken lol.

Oh, and I intend to wait for Irish to say that she and the "friend" in the other post are one and the same.

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RE: He used my pic to find bi-women secretly - 6/24/2006 2:22:15 PM   
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Sounds like both of you could use some serious therapy. One not caring enough about one to help her out in her sexual needs but refuses an open marriage. The other finds out about him looking for a female on the side, at best, and does not get extremely pissed about it.

I just without giving any more advice, from sanrky to positive, that you have not already read over and over, want to wish you the best and that you get the courage up to face these problems head on so you can move forward in your life.

Please feel no need to answer this question, but what type of marriage is it overall. Is there love and happiness or has it become one about convience, social contacts or money?


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RE: He used my pic to find bi-women secretly - 6/24/2006 3:57:52 PM   
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Hmmmm...maybe this thread wasn't started by her, but by HIM.  Using her picture.  In a desparate attempt to throw us off further.  Yah...that's the ticket...by HIM....yah.......

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RE: He used my pic to find bi-women secretly - 6/24/2006 4:13:25 PM   
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Hmmmm...maybe this thread wasn't started by her, but by HIM.  Using her picture.  In a desparate attempt to throw us off further.  Yah...that's the ticket...by HIM....yah.......

E.


LOL E.......... yeah, that's it! That dirty so and so..........

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RE: He used my pic to find bi-women secretly - 6/24/2006 4:53:45 PM   
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G'evening all:


Can you say rod and reel? Fishing anyone? Then folks wonder why I'm a cynical bitch? *chuckling* Let's see how long this particular train wreck rumbles on for.


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RE: He used my pic to find bi-women secretly - 6/24/2006 7:23:03 PM   
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Im confused. I thought Irish posted on the other thread about her friend "incognito".  There *was* a person there by that name, with a different set of circumstances, no?

Let us be as clear as possible about the cast of characters.  Incognito is MY friend.  She is not the "friend" Irish wrote about in her "sexless" OP.  It now seems clear that Irish was speaking of herself when she wrote about her "friend."  My friend, Incognito, had never heard of Irish until I called her attention to the "sexless" thread.  Incognito began posting on that thread to share her own somewhat similar experience, hoping it would be of some help to Irish's "friend," and glad to connect with others in similar situations to her own.  I think some people came to think that Incognito was the "friend" in question but she was not.
 
There are some striking parallels even as the story continues to unfold, but I frankly doubt it is worth Incognito's time or anyone else's to say more on either thread unless the OP wants to lay out her full story in one place.  Twenty pages of good sharing on the other thread in response to a half-told half-true OP......  That's got to be WAY more than enough help/advice for this person at this point in time.
 
 

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RE: He used my pic to find bi-women secretly - 6/24/2006 8:21:35 PM   
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I gotta say from the OP, it doesn't sound like the hubby is the sharpest knife in the drawer.

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RE: He used my pic to find bi-women secretly - 6/24/2006 8:24:39 PM   
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quote:

Hmmmm...maybe this thread wasn't started by her, but by HIM.  Using her picture.  In a desparate attempt to throw us off further.  Yah...that's the ticket...by HIM....yah.......


*gasps in disbelief*

Does that mean that she's off with her fuckbuddy that was lined up... errrr... I mean HIS.. errr... did he have one off the computer ?
or was it her "friend" in real life that had one???

ehh... nevermind... I've just confused Myself.

Fuck this.

T.R.

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RE: He used my pic to find bi-women secretly - 6/24/2006 8:59:33 PM   
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Ok, while we are piecing together the story, here is more of it, shared by the OP herself when she launched two other threads in recent weeks.  She started her first sub relationship four years ago, and she recently discovered her latest Master was going behind her back to find more subs/playmates
 
June 9
http://www.collarchat.com/m_418046/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#418046
 
quote:

Words that woke your soul to D/s? Share


Question: (I'm sure it's been posted before, but hey, there are newbies and established that still might want to share?)

What was the first word or visual that you saw/heard...that began your exploration into D/s?

Mine: I was at a keyboard working, a male friend simply whispered into my vanilla ears 4 years ago, "Wear heels to work tomorrow." Next day, I wore them thinking it was a game. It was no game....Collared 6 months later.

 
June 2
http://www.collarchat.com/m_401036/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#401036
 
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I could really use a Master's advice

I can only imagine how many emails you get like the one I'm posting.
Obviously, my story very much the same as some I've just read.


I began submitting to a Dominant. The hard limits: One-on-one relationship and honesty. Meaning, he would tell me if he wanted something or someone else.

He bought me a cell phone so he could have access to me at all times. He was always a gentleman. Always kind. Claimed he had "found what he was looking for and stopped his search!"

I submitted more of my body, mind and soul...out of affection and caring. He called daily, we saw eachother twice a week most of the time...5 months.
He would tell me, "I'm thinking of you way too much...I miss you, I need you....I adore you...."


Last night, I discovered...he was secretly seeking more subs/playmates. He has NO idea I discovered this. I was shocked, hurt, and anyother kind of emotion one can think of came over me.

I asked him shortly after..."Are you needing to move on ....?" He replied, "What are YOU doing up so late?" He WILL NOT ANSWER MY question.....which is "DO YOU NEED TO MOVE ON??"

Why can't he just say, "Yeah, I need more...move on, release, go..."???
What do you respond when you've submitted your affection, loyality and body to a Master who won't be honest with you?

 
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[more posts from later in the thread]


great idea...and I think it's time for my pic to go up as well...(smiles...what have I got to hide? Nothing!) My profile isn't filled out yet, but you've inspired me! (Time for this sub to take control of finding someone worthy, right?)

...


lol red...i understand...i too probably still have a lot to learn about what being 'submissive' really means...as far as making better choices. As far as me being the coward...dunno---to me, a huge part says, "Ya know, if someone is that low....maybe they deserve nothing..not even my typing on an email...!) And, I cut off the cell phone he gave me...and it will remain off...don't feel he's even worth answering the phone for. Call it cowardly...? Maybe...I sorta feel empowered as if "You aren't worth my breath anymore"

...
 
So true passionate....as I read your post..I began to deflate a bit...as a submissive, I tend to only 'hear' what I want to hear. It tugs, it pulls...and my only drawback is even allowing him the satisfaction of 'hearing' my voice. To me, a person who openly lies to me once...isn't worth or should not be honored enough to ever 'hear' my voice on the phone..and definitely NOT in person./or via email. He has his toys...he can go play. I will remain true to myself first, not him...nor give him the opportunity to attempt to pull me anywhere.

 
 
By the way, here's one of two posts Irish made on the Two Worlds of Trust thread I started, June 9
http://www.collarchat.com/m_417509/mpage_2/key_/tm.htm#418017
 
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So many insights into D/s...cheating, etc. I have read the posts, concur and respect many opinions.

However, they are  opinions. I will not judge another based on something as fragile as marriage and decisions based on family.  Each relationship, each situation is completely different from another. Just because you are a sub or Dom, does not make you held to a 'higher moral standard' than any vanilla, etc. Vanillas and D/s relationships face the same challenges..
..When a person is ready to speak openly with their spouse, then that is their choice. To each his/her own. Live and let live.


Submitted Respectfully to those who are "stuck" and respectfully to those making choices, and those who have already made their own personal choice in regard to their "situation'. Best wishes.
Irish



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RE: He used my pic to find bi-women secretly - 6/24/2006 10:37:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sskitten
Ok, while we are piecing together the story, here is more of it, shared by the OP herself when she launched two other threads in recent weeks.  She started her first sub relationship four years ago, and she recently discovered her latest Master was going behind her back to find more subs/playmates


Alright, I am so flipping confused now I can barely see straight. How did her husband stop having sex with her five years ago if she just started submitting 4 years ago? So then the husband and the Master are two different people? Where does this Master of 5 months fit into all of this? I thought the husband refused to allow her to seek sex outside of the marriage? Is the room spinning or is it just my head??????

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RE: He used my pic to find bi-women secretly - 6/24/2006 11:06:02 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

quote:

ORIGINAL: sskitten
Ok, while we are piecing together the story, here is more of it, shared by the OP herself when she launched two other threads in recent weeks.  She started her first sub relationship four years ago, and she recently discovered her latest Master was going behind her back to find more subs/playmates


Alright, I am so flipping confused now I can barely see straight. How did her husband stop having sex with her five years ago if she just started submitting 4 years ago? So then the husband and the Master are two different people? Where does this Master of 5 months fit into all of this? I thought the husband refused to allow her to seek sex outside of the marriage? Is the room spinning or is it just my head??????


I thought it was very clear, but I'll spell it out.  Like myself, she is cheating on her husband.  But unlike me, she doesn't come right out and say so.  We can piece it together from the threads she has started.  She has apparently had at least two Masters outside of her marriage.  She has vented about her latest Master going behind her back to look for others, which seemed to upset her, and she seems puzzled but not upset by her husband doing something similar.  And she got 20 pages' worth of advice for her "friend" in the marriage that has been devoid of sex for five years without divulging that it was her own story and that she started cheating on her husband four years ago. 
 
The only thing that bothers me in all of this is that she has repeatedly asked for input here without giving the full story, and in the "sexless" thread she outright lied with the "friend" business.  And it's a bit hypocritical to go on and on in the cheating Master thread about how he isn't even worth her breath any more and that she's decided to post her photo now to find a more worthy Dom, saying, "(smiles... what have I got to hide?  Nothing!)."  
 
I understand why she did not put it all together for us and explain that she is cheating because she has seen how those threads go.  And I assure you I am the last person on CM who would want this to become a thread about cheating.  But I guess for her there is not much trust in either world.

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RE: He used my pic to find bi-women secretly - 6/25/2006 12:33:33 AM   
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Good lord...........i think i need a beer after all this.

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RE: He used my pic to find bi-women secretly - 6/25/2006 12:36:27 AM   
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RE: He used my pic to find bi-women secretly - 6/25/2006 12:43:51 AM   
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And Strippers!

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RE: He used my pic to find bi-women secretly - 6/25/2006 1:33:46 AM   
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DING!!!! I'll be over at smilezz house. Please keep the bills and forward the money.

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RE: He used my pic to find bi-women secretly - 6/25/2006 2:24:22 AM   
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Is that pizza with or without anchovies?

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RE: He used my pic to find bi-women secretly - 6/25/2006 5:55:15 AM   
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Maybe I should have gone on Jerry Springer?Smiles.

I want to thank all the Doms/Dommes/Masters/Mistresses  who sent me the kindest emails...who had clarity  and sound advice (remarkable humanbeings) who immediately ID'd and warned me of the "claws".

The sub post  thread was about a friend. I have no idea who linked or why. This is all I will clarify.

I will do my best to answer the mails and thank you again.

Warmly, Love, and Peace in all Light.
Irish



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RE: He used my pic to find bi-women secretly - 6/25/2006 6:11:31 AM   
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DING!!!! I'll be over at smilezz house. Please keep the bills and forward the money.

It's a Party!   Everyone's invited.   *grinz*

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Is that pizza with or without anchovies?

You can have it any way you want it!

Happy Sunday y'all!

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RE: He used my pic to find bi-women secretly - 6/25/2006 6:25:36 AM   
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ORIGINAL: irishbynature

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ORIGINAL: Wulfchyld

Hmm... Irish I must admit that is odd. So you are in a sexless marriage that has now diminished to a total lack of respect and ultimately to cheating. I think your communication has gone to zip and now would be a good time to "really" talk and use a councilor if needs be. I am sorry things are so odd for you, but it is time to protect yourself and resolve the relationship one way or the other.


Yeah Wulf..but ya know..in a freaky way...it was a validation for me in many ways...that something was and has been wrong for some time....that's why I was not angry. It just struck me as "odd"..esp the women aspect. I feel validated one level....(like FINALLY, "Ahhhh...that's the problem he's had..LOL..it's NOT me...it's that he seeks other women....DUH! ) Well, let  him go for it.........just don't use my info to do so!
Smiles!
Irish



Well if the other post really was about a "friend"....based on your response to this post it would appear that you are in the same type of situation as your friend......you two must have lots to talk about.

PS...glad to know that we have so many Doms, Dommes, Masters and Mistresses on the sight who have such amazing clarity. The rest of us need a map to figure out this convoluted mess.

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