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Collars? - 5/3/2013 10:42:34 PM   
zpenguin


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Ok so I read on a site different levels and ranks of collars, how many believe this and use this system?
here is the link to view these ranks and levels http://www.darkconnections.com/collaringceremonies/page2.htm

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RE: Collars? - 5/3/2013 11:43:38 PM   
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Can't say I use the system, but their advice on approaching people is pretty much spot on.

I've had play collars and in one case a formal collar, never the stages between though.

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RE: Collars? - 5/4/2013 12:09:38 AM   
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i have had a play collar and a formal collar showing i was owned. for me the formal collar has the most significant prominence as it is owned by the Master/Mistress and shows a deep bond of trust going deeper than the significance of a wedding ring as it is likened to. a play collar is just that for play and not applying to the whole of the persons life. having had the formal collar removed i can attest to the importance it plays in the life of one who identifies as a slave
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RE: Collars? - 5/4/2013 2:22:40 AM   
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Not being people who follow rules if we can possibly avoid it, Master and I believe in only one kind of collar.

We got to know each other well as people before we even considered playing, and by that point we knew we had something special. So he collared me, and it that was that. No 'play', no 'consideration', just THE collar.


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RE: Collars? - 5/4/2013 4:28:40 AM   
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Some people do and some people don't. Personallly? No. I find all the different ones silly. But for others it's important.

At the end of the day if it works for them then cool bananas but it's not my thing personally. It takes time for things to develop and a collar is something I probably wouldn't take lightly and it would be one collar. I am aware some who are on a casual basis like to use one when playing or when out and about it's a way of stating they are taken and that she's off limits. Each to their own really.

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RE: Collars? - 5/4/2013 4:36:07 AM   
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As in everything ..do as you (and your partner) feel right

I collared my slave. I bought her a collar. She doesn't need to wear it always. See it as a wedding ring.
We didnt; play nor did I consider her. We knew eachother and knew what we wanted. So I collared her.
Perhaps it is because she is a slave..and she has a gorean background. I don't know. We just found it part of our "life".

We had a small ceremony in which I also marked her with a knife.
Every one has their own way of doing it. There is no wrong or right.

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RE: Collars? - 5/4/2013 7:27:27 AM   
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I did not read the article at all... Personally, I think it should be clear...the difference between a Play Collar, a collar that's a little more committed and a full blown collar associated with ownership. It's everything to do with communications and a clear understanding of the relationship status and meaning.

If one wishes to make a ceremony out of it, that's great. If one wishes to do it rather less formal, that's great. The importance is the meaning and communication involved.

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RE: Collars? - 5/4/2013 7:33:44 AM   
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Personally, I find the collars of protection and consideration to be ridiculous. I also think that in most cases the training collar is too, since so many use the word training as an euphemism for "I want to tie you up, beat up and then fuck you" rather than actual training.



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RE: Collars? - 5/4/2013 9:17:01 AM   
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@OsideGirl, I couldn't agree more with thought of "training" most subs I talk to that have been around for while say when a person claims to want to "train" them they typically know it means that person just wants to fuck them. I have learned about "guiding" not "training" a sub. Guiding to me is sharing your knowledge and mentoring on proper etiquette and protocol during interactions. Though I make sure to let them know I am still learning as well. Guiding is a more non-sexual way. I guess you could compare it to the "protection" or "mentoring" label. ( I hate the protection label though, just seems silly to me)

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RE: Collars? - 5/4/2013 9:24:09 AM   
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I use play collars and personal collars.

I am not a fan of training collars, protection collars or collars of consideration. IMO far to many use those to "use" a sub or slave without taking the responsibility for the sub or slave.

The closest I have ever come to a "protection collar" was when I was going to an event and didn't want to go as a single uncollared submissive woman so a friend placed a collar on me for the event.

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RE: Collars? - 5/4/2013 9:29:07 AM   
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I guess some would find this collar system to be useful in their lives, I see it as rather silly. I would not wish to participate in this hierarchy of collars if it were suggested, it seems childish to me- like different Pokemon or something. The idea that the next thing down the line is new and improved. Meh. Im not entering a relationship to reach for some outside entity's set of goals- the exchange between the two of us is what we say it is.

It doesn't seem to me, to be a good match to try to equate an organic living relationship between two people, and a ranking system which seems more appropriate to inanimate objects. JMO.

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RE: Collars? - 5/4/2013 9:41:04 AM   
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Nope. Don't use it but I'm also not into the casual playing or role playing or playing with numerous people. The only time I've taken a collar is when I've been in a long term, committed relationship. There was no consideration collar or anything like that. There was one collar....a collar to symbolize I was owned.

If someone approached me and wanted me to go through some kind of numerous collar roles, I would roll my eyes and move on. You either want to be with me or you don't. If you feel you have to give me some kind of collar to consider me or not then that tells me that you are not ready for a relationship yet and it means you're skittish. I didn't want someone that couldn't move on.



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RE: Collars? - 5/4/2013 9:48:10 AM   
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The marriage vows are a pretty nice mutually protective collar....

However I do quite like people suspecting I might be submissive if I wear a close necklace or something which gives a hint.

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RE: Collars? - 5/4/2013 9:56:49 AM   
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I think most people just don't care or even notice.

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RE: Collars? - 5/4/2013 10:01:38 AM   
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I won't disrespect those folks who attach greater significance to a collar. To some, it is as symbolic as a wedding ring, and that's their right. Myself, I see a collar as no more than a restraint device, with no particular attachment to a person. I had a very nice locking collar that I used on a number of partners (yes, I cleaned it well between uses-no squick alert here).

Of the dozen or so playmates who wore it, only one asked if it meant something more. I used it for perhaps five-six years before it started to come apart, and I tossed it without a second thought. Again, to those who assign a higher value to a collar, more power to you. I only see it as a tool/toy for play like the rest of my tool kit.

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RE: Collars? - 5/4/2013 10:15:34 AM   
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I don't believe in collars period. I don't even like things on my neck. Drives me crazy.

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RE: Collars? - 5/4/2013 10:46:53 AM   
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Yes, I've heard of all the different types of collars.

I think some Dom/mes use a collar of consideration to keep the sub out of circulation while they're still free to look elsewhere before they decide. I don't think that's fair. If I'm considering someone, I don't use a collar at that point and I tell them I fully expect them to be considering me at the same time.

I wouldn't use a training collar. Like OsideGirl said "so many use the word training as an euphemism for "I want to tie you up, beat up and then fuck you" rather than actual training." If I'm going to train someone, he will be mine anyway.

As for formal collars, someday I may formally collar someone but I haven't gotten that far yet. If I do, I would put a "formal collar" on someone, but I wouldn't mess with the other types of collars.

As for the "Always approach people with respect if you are unsure of their status," I approach everyone with respect. I feel that to get respect, I need to give it. Respect goes both ways.

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RE: Collars? - 5/4/2013 12:59:59 PM   
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I also haven't read the link. I don't believe in "systems" erected by people I'm not in a relationship with.

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RE: Collars? - 5/4/2013 1:02:55 PM   
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I have had a play collar before.
It felt like a piece of funky jewelry.

In other words: it was not special.

I see a "formal collar" as being special.
The others listed (and I do not mean to offend by this), just seem like imaginary collars and rather silly.


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RE: Collars? - 5/4/2013 1:10:36 PM   
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I think we are all are in love with the thought of..HEY look shes/hescollared however in this world of ours where everyone has to work is is diffcult for most to wear their collar in the vanilla world...So o I have my ownership tat on their butts..A broken arrow that states..."Property of BOUNTYHUNTER....Bounty

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