Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

Advice to Newcomers to the World of BDSM


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Health and Safety >> Advice to Newcomers to the World of BDSM Page: [1]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
Advice to Newcomers to the World of BDSM - 5/20/2013 8:40:59 AM   
dh76513


Posts: 7
Joined: 12/18/2004
Status: offline
To all those individuals who are newcomers to lifestyle welcome. Please do not be too critical of your limited knowledge or your novice skills as everyone has had a “beginning” or a starting point like with any new skill, path or knowledge one seeks in life. Whether you are here because you are new to the BDSM lifestyle or just curious, be honest. On this website there are many good people, dominant and submissive alike, whom I have had the honor of meeting. Many have a great deal of experience, knowledge, and wisdom about lifestyle and are willing to share their realities, coach, and in some case even mentor beginners. Equally important, there are also frauds or individuals who use this platform in general and lifestyle in particular for bad motives. As such, I have provided you with a short list of some potential pitfalls to avoid.

1. Avoid any requests for nude pictures unless you know the individual very well and trust has truly been established. Even where these relationship characteristics have been developed, sending such pictures may still be an act of poor judgment as email accounts in similar sites have been hacked with pictures haphazardly being publically illustrated. So if you still desire to send a photograph, make certain you are at least unable to be identified.

2. Avoid anyone you are yet to personally meet who is requesting “sex on demand” immediately upon meeting you for the first time regardless of how long you have been communicating on the telephone or computer. Remember submission and dominance are gifts and true gifts can only be given. In fact, you may no longer feel that person is worthy of such a gift after meeting them personally or the chemistry may just not be there.

3. Avoid anyone who is requesting money or sensitive information from you.

4. Avoid anyone who is requesting you to engage in any activity that may be harmful to your health. Although you are likely to find in lifestyle some of the most sexually open-minded people you have ever met, please be weary of anyone who claims to be experienced in lifestyle, but demands unhealthy activities that are unhealthy or have a potential for serious harm.

5. Avoid anyone who is requesting to you engage illegal activities. Recently, I had a submissive tell me a story in which her Master insisted she suck his cock while standing beside his car in a busy mall parking lot where children were even present. While public sex may be a well-known activity among individuals in lifestyle, this is an unrealistic demand when there are no precautions taken for public regard and any such exposures could lead to arrest.

6. Avoid cyber-only relationships. In my opinion, many humans forgave control for a façade of “greater control” and all under the process of “staying connected” when in fact people have become more disconnected. And this is the very reason I do not desire a cell phone. I am not advocating that everyone destroy their cell phones and computers. However, I am claiming that with the advent of the cell phone, electronic communications, and computers, we have forfeited a great deal of control over our lives and made it very easy to become someone other than ourselves and unfortunately live in an unreal world that only exists in our minds. So with that being said, you are only doing yourself an injustice and disservice to exist in a relationship without any true human exchange of empathy and touch.

7. Avoid anyone who had no regard for consensual value. Even in non-sexual play or educational demonstrations at lifestyle events or parties, I have always secured consent. Again, how can anyone truly feel the beautiful gift of dominance or submissiveness without any consent? People true to the lifestyle will always understand and respect the value of consent.

8. Avoid anyone who demands or professes “no limits” in reality. Here, it is important to note that fantasy and reality are certainly separated in most scenes. For example, as a Master of humiliation, I often enjoy the many complexities found in mind-control or obedience training where there are “no limits” in fantasy play in which I may demand a submissive to verbally commit to engaging in activities that in reality she and I both know I would never ask her to do. While such games are frequently played in lifestyle, no person is without limits. Therefore, anyone claiming or demanding such a relationship should be avoided. This is not to say that limits should not be explored, pushed, discussed, or new paths tried as much as it is to validate that one’s limited should be respected. In all my lifestyle experiences, I am yet to meet anyone who does not have any “real” limits. And here, these valuable insights can only be established with open and honest communication between the dominant and submissive.

9. Avoid sexual and non-sexual play during times of intoxication where there is a potential for impaired judgment. Here, I am referring to drugs and alcohol. While I do not want to rant or prohibit anyone from having a drink during play, it is not wise to engage in a scene with anyone who has an impaired judgment through intoxication and are unable to adequately gage their own sensibilities or give proper consent. This is the very reason that most public lifestyle clubs do not allow alcohol on the premises.

10. Avoid meeting anyone for the first time without letting at least a close friend know where and with whom you are visiting. Some may feel the need for a “safe call” or some other form of communication and most people in lifestyle not only understand this process, but expect it.

Please be familiar with a very important lifestyle rule that is infrequently discussed on such websites and ask yourself one question, “Is the request or activity safe, sane, and consensual?” Now while many lifestyle request or activities may appear unsafe, insane, and forced to those of the vanilla world, we do not need to get bogged down here in game of semantics as most lifestyle people do understand my point. Furthermore, know that all of the foregoing pitfalls that I have listed are consistent with a true lifestyle philosophy – safe, sane, and consensual. Although everyone may not likely agree with my words, most individuals who are true to lifestyle and have been deeply involved in such relationships as well as this community understand the importance and value of open and honest communication. In fact, I would argue that these characteristics have a more significant role in lifestyle than vanilla relationships. And, for the most part, this may be the very reason greater levels of intimacy appear to be reached typically quicker in lifestyle relationships. So with these words, accept yourself wherever you are on the path of lifestyle, do not engage in irresponsible behavior and enjoy what develops within your “real” world and limits.

Safe Journeys,

~Sir (David)
Profile   Post #: 1
RE: Advice to Newcomers to the World of BDSM - 5/20/2013 8:54:03 AM   
LadyPact


Posts: 32566
Status: offline
No offense, dude, but please stop talking to people like they are children and attempt to guise it under consideration for their health, rather than your own pontification.


_____________________________

The crowned Diva of Destruction. ~ ExT

Beach Ball Sized Lady Nuts. ~ TWD

Happily dating a new submissive. It's official. I've named him engie.

Please do not send me email here. Unless I know you, I will delete the email unread

(in reply to dh76513)
Profile   Post #: 2
RE: Advice to Newcomers to the World of BDSM - 5/20/2013 9:18:01 AM   
OsideGirl


Posts: 14441
Joined: 7/1/2005
From: United States
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: dh76513

Furthermore, know that all of the foregoing pitfalls that I have listed are consistent with a true lifestyle philosophy – safe, sane, and consensual.
So, people that practice RACK don't have a TWUE lifestyle philosophy?


quote:

Although everyone may not likely agree with my words, most individuals who are true to lifestyle and have been deeply involved in such relationships as well as this community understand the importance and value of open and honest communication. In fact, I would argue that these characteristics have a more significant role in lifestyle than vanilla relationships.
Bullshit. Open and honest communication is important regardless of whether it's vanilla, kinky or otherwise.

I agree with LP. Why don't you try actually having a discussion rather than lecturing everyone.

_____________________________

Give a girl the right shoes and she will conquer the world. ~ Marilyn Monroe

The Accelerated Velocity of Terminological Inexactitude

(in reply to dh76513)
Profile   Post #: 3
RE: Advice to Newcomers to the World of BDSM - 5/20/2013 12:10:45 PM   
Rawni


Posts: 1175
Status: offline
How about simplifying that and just say... Avoid being brain dead when dealing with other people.

(in reply to OsideGirl)
Profile   Post #: 4
RE: Advice to Newcomers to the World of BDSM - 5/20/2013 12:22:13 PM   
freedomdwarf1


Posts: 6845
Joined: 10/23/2012
Status: offline
It's called "don't be a fucktard just because it's BDSM".

All the posters above me have said it in a nut-shell.

I hate these lecturing threads where some asshat thinks we're all 5-year-old kids learning road safety.
I think it should be removed.

(in reply to dh76513)
Profile   Post #: 5
RE: Advice to Newcomers to the World of BDSM - 5/20/2013 12:31:37 PM   
amaidiamond


Posts: 1793
Joined: 2/6/2006
From: Watford / London
Status: offline
One Twue Wayism and Condescension... Oh Joy...

_____________________________

Lead me not into temptation... I can find the way all by myself!

(in reply to freedomdwarf1)
Profile   Post #: 6
RE: Advice to Newcomers to the World of BDSM - 5/20/2013 1:16:24 PM   
DaddySatyr


Posts: 9381
Joined: 8/29/2011
From: Pittston, Pennsyltucky
Status: offline
I, for one, am glad to have this handy little guideline that I can use to keep myself safe and on the up-and-up. I don't know how I've managed without it.

When I left mommy and daddy's house a few (32) years ago, I knew it was a cold, cruel, world and I guess it's just been a matter of luck that I've survived this long, on my own.

I feel like I owe a debt.



Peace and comfort,



Michael


_____________________________

A Stone in My Shoe

Screen captures (and pissing on shadows) still RULE! Ya feel me?

"For that which I love, I will do horrible things"

(in reply to amaidiamond)
Profile   Post #: 7
RE: Advice to Newcomers to the World of BDSM - 5/20/2013 1:56:22 PM   
sexyred1


Posts: 8998
Joined: 8/9/2007
Status: offline
Gee OP, thanks for treating everyone like they are idiots.

There are some people, I will give you that, who need your advice, but not usually found on this site of CM.

(in reply to DaddySatyr)
Profile   Post #: 8
RE: Advice to Newcomers to the World of BDSM - 5/20/2013 4:49:32 PM   
slaveluci


Posts: 4294
Joined: 3/2/2007
From: Little Rock, AR
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

It's called "don't be a fucktard just because it's BDSM".



This is the kind of phrase I think of every time someone pontificates about "sub frenzy." Nope, that's being a fucktard and it is NOT a valid excuse. Ha, ha love it.........luci

_____________________________

To choose a good book, look in an inquisitor’s prohibited list. ~John Aikin

(in reply to freedomdwarf1)
Profile   Post #: 9
RE: Advice to Newcomers to the World of BDSM - 5/20/2013 5:16:18 PM   
littlewonder


Posts: 15659
Status: offline
Fuck! I did it all wrong.

_____________________________

Nothing has changed
Everything has changed

(in reply to slaveluci)
Profile   Post #: 10
RE: Advice to Newcomers to the World of BDSM - 5/20/2013 7:35:03 PM   
DesFIP


Posts: 25191
Joined: 11/25/2007
From: Apple County NY
Status: offline
Basically, don't pick an asshat as a partner and don't be one.

Brevity, op, brevity. Otherwise our response to you will be levity.

_____________________________

Slave to laundry

Cynical and proud of it!


(in reply to littlewonder)
Profile   Post #: 11
RE: Advice to Newcomers to the World of BDSM - 5/20/2013 9:33:55 PM   
SeekingTrinity


Posts: 1834
Joined: 5/29/2012
From: The 'burbs of Portland, OR
Status: offline
~FRing it~

Ugh, read the whole "true lifestyle" and "submission and dominance is a gift" crap and that told me all I needed to know. That and the eye rolling

OP, just about EVERYTHING in BDSM can be harmful to one's health. That is why RACK exists. I take it you know what RACK is, OP...since you seem to know it all enough to start lecturing down to people in your "holier than thou" way?

And as an aside...DaddySatyr...I have a bit of a crush on your snark . Loved it!

(in reply to DesFIP)
Profile   Post #: 12
RE: Advice to Newcomers to the World of BDSM - 5/21/2013 7:17:02 AM   
chatterbox24


Posts: 2182
Joined: 1/22/2012
Status: offline
Hee hee.


Ok I got it .........................................................AVOID.

_____________________________

I am like a box of chocolates, you never know what variety you are going to get on any given day.

My crazy smells like jasmine, cloves and cat nip.

(in reply to SeekingTrinity)
Profile   Post #: 13
RE: Advice to Newcomers to the World of BDSM - 5/21/2013 9:09:27 AM   
MasterCaneman


Posts: 3842
Joined: 3/21/2013
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Basically, don't pick an asshat as a partner and don't be one.

Brevity, op, brevity. Otherwise our response to you will be levity.

That made me laugh.

OP, I think you meant well, but most of the posters here have loads of experience already. Newbies are generally directed to RS's book list, and your missive did lean towards condescension. Just my take on it.

_____________________________

Age and treachery will always overcome youth and ambition.

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. ~ Sun Tzu

Goddess Wrangler



(in reply to DesFIP)
Profile   Post #: 14
RE: Advice to Newcomers to the World of BDSM - 5/21/2013 1:12:48 PM   
dh76513


Posts: 7
Joined: 12/18/2004
Status: offline
Despite the many certainties from many in this discussion or those “experts” of this website in general and lifestyle in particular, I see many of these flags frequently being ignored in the community. Regardless of how long you have been liberated from your parents, how astute you are at not being scammed, or how impressive your lifestyle dossier, the reality is…everyone has a starting point and if I can prevent one person from making one tragic mistake so be it.

In reflecting on the forgoing, I realized the importance of yet one more red flag that I have witnessed on more than one occasion. Avoid those individuals who make demands or engage in behaviors that could jeopardize your career, education or job. Although it is frequently common for lifestyle practices to enter our career world, be at work or school, it is unreasonable to engage in activities or demand practices that could risk one from a successful future. Here, it is once again best to use common sense. For example, it may be perfectly reasonable to have a submissive masturbate in the ladies room, wear a plug, or remove her panties at work as these actions can all be done in an obscure and elusive. However, if the behavior could lead to punitive actions against your career, think twice, and avoid such actions. Regardless of how committed one may be to partner and/or lifestyle, remember we must all exist in a vanilla world where our financial foundations can only bring greater reward to our lifestyle ambitions. Any intelligent Master will not make such requests as his efforts should be equally aimed at protecting you and preserving the lifestyle.

In closing, thanks for your personal comments even the pointed ones.

~Sir

(in reply to MasterCaneman)
Profile   Post #: 15
RE: Advice to Newcomers to the World of BDSM - 5/21/2013 1:46:18 PM   
ChatteParfaitt


Posts: 6562
Joined: 3/22/2011
From: The t'aint of the Midwest -- Indiana
Status: offline
I admit I didn't read the entire wall of text, what I did read seemed like good advice for a newbie. Perhaps better as a journal entry or a writing on Fet, but what they hay?

I think the OP means well. Welcome to the discussion side, dh.

_____________________________



(in reply to dh76513)
Profile   Post #: 16
RE: Advice to Newcomers to the World of BDSM - 5/21/2013 2:39:06 PM   
OsideGirl


Posts: 14441
Joined: 7/1/2005
From: United States
Status: offline
I think the issue is that everything he posts is a lecture and they are presented entirely from his view of what is a TRUE lifestyle philosophy. He's not discussing anything he's just posting a pedantic lecture.

Life doesn't always fit into nice, neat little boxes. And lastly, I recommend that when taking relationship advise from someone that isn't in a relationship, do so with a grain of salt.



_____________________________

Give a girl the right shoes and she will conquer the world. ~ Marilyn Monroe

The Accelerated Velocity of Terminological Inexactitude

(in reply to ChatteParfaitt)
Profile   Post #: 17
RE: Advice to Newcomers to the World of BDSM - 5/21/2013 2:47:55 PM   
Rawni


Posts: 1175
Status: offline
I've known people in long term relationships that brag about how long they have been married and give advice. I wouldn't want a marriage like theirs, nor would I take their advice. Thus, I am single and selective because I won't go there again. I have had healthy relationships and because they could not overcome what happened to my health, etc. doesn't negate that I knew how to maintain one. It really isn't rocket science... nor is how to meet people, even kinky one's and know how to proceed without instruction, warnings and knights.

(in reply to OsideGirl)
Profile   Post #: 18
Page:   [1]
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Health and Safety >> Advice to Newcomers to the World of BDSM Page: [1]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.094