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Baroana -> Best Lining For A Leather Collar? (5/20/2013 5:01:11 PM)

Please share your recommendations for the best collar lining material. What works best to maximize comfort, durability, sweatproofing, and so forth?




Dreamless -> RE: Best Lining For A Leather Collar? (5/20/2013 11:07:59 PM)

Personally, my favorite lining is 'none'. I love the feel of leather on leather, though it could get a bit stiff if you want the decorative stitching and do two layers of leather. Fur just kind of bugs me, and I find it very warm and it gets sticky in use. Suede would be nice, I bet, though I've only gone with plain leather and fur options so far.




lisub4one -> RE: Best Lining For A Leather Collar? (5/21/2013 8:17:18 AM)


I've done a few collars lined with pigskin and have not heard any complaints.




YN -> RE: Best Lining For A Leather Collar? (5/21/2013 10:55:10 AM)

"Orthopedic suede" or "orthopedic" calf or pig leather is likely the best, it is what I have used.

It is the type of leather used for braces artificial limbs and medical devices, and is tanned to be neutral and for safe use next to human skin.




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Best Lining For A Leather Collar? (5/21/2013 11:05:54 AM)

No matter what lining you use, realize a leather collar has a shelf life based on how clean it's kept. The tougher the leather, the more impervious it is to dirt and sweat and the easier it is to clean. The softer leathers can and should be cleaned, but dirt and sweat will degrade them over time.




btm2us -> RE: Best Lining For A Leather Collar? (5/29/2013 10:57:12 PM)

i make my own with good quality latigo. i don't line them as they are comfortable enough to wear for hours at a time. i have slept in them and i don't find it at all difficult.




YN -> RE: Best Lining For A Leather Collar? (6/9/2013 7:29:40 PM)

Often "latigo" is chrome-tanned.




Baroana -> RE: Best Lining For A Leather Collar? (6/9/2013 7:33:37 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: YN

Often "latigo" is chrome-tanned.


Meaning?




YN -> RE: Best Lining For A Leather Collar? (6/10/2013 1:55:55 AM)

Chromium Toxicity

One reason why the "medical" leathers are not tanned with chromium or other metal salts, but use "vegetable" tanning compounds.

Chromium-tanned leather can contain between 4 and 5% of chromium.




stef -> RE: Best Lining For A Leather Collar? (6/10/2013 8:32:42 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: YN

Chromium Toxicity

One reason why the "medical" leathers are not tanned with chromium or other metal salts, but use "vegetable" tanning compounds.

Chromium-tanned leather can contain between 4 and 5% of chromium.

Not all chromium is toxic. Chromium salts exist in plants and our bodies and is necessary component in the metabolism of sugar and fat.

Chromium toxicity is primarily linked to hexavalent and pentavalent chromium. Modern tanneries use trivalent chromium which does not have the same toxicity issues and does not penetrate cell membranes like Cr(VI) and Cr(V). While it's possible that someone with an acute sensitivity to Cr(III) could possibly experience contact dermatitis, the health risk from Cr(III) tanned leather is miniscule.

The sky is not falling, remain calm.




YN -> RE: Best Lining For A Leather Collar? (6/10/2013 4:48:35 PM)

"Modern tanneries" are the trouble, (or more correctly the lack of them.)

If treated properly, chrome tanned leather is safe for normal wear if not in direct and continual skin contact, a shoe is an example, though many of the better ones are still lined with a bit of calf, pigskin, etc. in the wear areas on the heels and on the sole, as it is contact with abraded skin which causes the trouble.

However the majority of modern industrial tanning using the chrome process is done in places like Nigeria, Pakistan and Indonesia and there have been various scandals concerning them and their products which often are turned into cheap leather goods, those 20 Euro leather miniskirts and 50 Euro leather motorcycle jackets for examples. Chrome not being properly washed out is only one type of complaint, lead, arsenic and other things are in some dyes or the process.

Next of course is where those medical appliances like prosthetic and splints still must be lined with the vegetable tanned suede, calf, elk, pigskin, etc.

Then as earlier noted a collar is subject to sweat, perfumes, antiperspirants, makeup, etc. and also uses metal furniture in many cases, and between the chemical and electro- chemical reactions over a term, a certain amount of the dyes and any other chemicals with be leached. The vegetable tanned lining, being essentially natural skin in many aspects, will absorb and take the chemical beating instead of the wearer.

Anyway, the question was which collar lining was the best.




YN -> RE: Best Lining For A Leather Collar? (6/10/2013 5:07:03 PM)

Here is a sample of the type -

http://www.macphersonleather.com/shoe_and_lining_leather.htm




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